Re: [agi] Live Forever Machines...

2008-06-01 Thread Ben Goertzel
I'll respond to other points tomorrow or the day after (am currently on a biz trip through Asia), but just one thing now... You say > With NO money, none of either of our efforts stands a chance. With some > realistic investment money, scanning would at minimum be cheap insurance > that you will b

Re: [agi] Live Forever Machines...

2008-06-01 Thread Steve Richfield
Ben, I just LOVE your posting, because it asks exactly the right questions. On 5/31/08, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think that brain scanning is an interesting and important > technology/research direction, but I don't see why you think it is > easier to create than AGI. I th

Re: [agi] Live Forever Machines...

2008-06-01 Thread Steve Richfield
Josh, On 5/30/08, J Storrs Hall, PhD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You'd get a hell of a lot better resolution with an e-beam blowing up > nanometer-sized spots, and feeding the ejecta thru a mass spectrometer. Yes, but all your spectrometer will see is hydrogen, oxygen, and carbon. The e-beam w

Re: [agi] Live Forever Machines...

2008-05-31 Thread Ben Goertzel
Steve, Josh, etc. Agree this is off-topic ... it should be posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead, perhaps... so I have cross-posted it there and suggest to continue the discussion there. Steve: I think that brain scanning is an interesting and important technology/research direction, but I don't

Re: [agi] Live Forever Machines...

2008-05-30 Thread J Storrs Hall, PhD
You'd get a hell of a lot better resolution with an e-beam blowing up nanometer-sized spots, and feeding the ejecta thru a mass spectrometer. See my talk a couple of years back at Alcor. But I would suggest that this is *wy* off-topic for this list... uploading implications to the contrary n

[agi] Live Forever Machines...

2008-05-30 Thread Steve Richfield
Ben, et al, I have posted in the past as part of other postings that live forever machines should be at once much easier to build, worth far more than an AGI, and lead directly to an AGI. However, no one has even commented on this. If I am right, then present efforts should shift in that direction