[agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-12 Thread James Ratcliff
During the grammar NLP discussion, someone asked about various parsers, well here is one that I am looking at now   Download http://nlp.stanford.edu/software/lex-parser.shtml   Stanfords parser, and a online version is here http://josie.stanford.edu:8080/parser/   James  

Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-12 Thread Matt Mahoney
> http://josie.stanford.edu:8080/parser/Fails the Turing test :-)  "I ate pizza with {pepperoni|George|chopsticks}" all have the same parse. -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]- Original Message From: James Ratcliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: agi@v2.listbox.comSent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:1

Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-13 Thread James Ratcliff
Yeha I noticed that right off.I was going to play and see if it would generate multiple parse trees for me, I know I saw one that would.If not I can handle that part on my end so long as it does a good representation of the POS grammar task.I was just happy this was easy to use, and had a simple sc

Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-15 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
Several things: 1. Someone suggested these parsers to me: Eugene Charniak's http://www.cog.brown.edu/Research/nlp/resources.html Dan Bikel's http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~dbikel/software.html Demos for both are at: http://lfg-demo.computing.dcu.ie/lfgparser.html It seems that they are similar in

Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-15 Thread Matt Mahoney
From: YKY (Yan King Yin) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:59:45 AM Subject: Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL Several things: 1. Someone suggested these parsers to me: Eugene Charniak's http://www.cog.brown.edu/Research/nlp

Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-15 Thread Ben Goertzel
3. If translating natural language to a structured representation is not hard, then do it. People have been working on this for 50 years without success. Doing logical inference is the easy part. Actually, a more accurate statement would be "Doing individual logical inference steps is the easy

Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-16 Thread James Ratcliff
Correct, Using inferences only works in toy, or small well understood domains, as inevitably when it goes 2+ steps away from direct knowledge it will be making large assumptions and be wrong. My thoughts have been on an AISim as well, but I am laying out the works for it to be massivley avai

Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-16 Thread James Ratcliff
dnesday, November 15, 2006 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL >> 3. If translating natural language to a structured representation is not >> hard, then do it. People have been working on this for 50 years without >> success. Doing logical inference is the ea

Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-16 Thread Mark Waser
questions . . . . - Original Message - From: "Ben Goertzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL >> 3. If translating natural language to a structured representation is not >> hard, then do it. People h

Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-16 Thread Mark Waser
.listbox.com Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL whats your definition of diff of data and knowledge then? Cyc uses a formal language based in logic to describe the things. James Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, i

Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-16 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
On 11/16/06, James Ratcliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Correct, Using inferences only works in toy, or small well understood domains, as inevitably when it goes 2+ steps away from direct knowledge it will be making large assumptions and be wrong. My thoughts have been on an AISim as well, bu

Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-16 Thread Matt Mahoney
agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:17:55 PM Subject: Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL On 11/16/06, James Ratcliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Correct, > Using inferences only works in toy, or small well understood domains, as > inevitably w

Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-16 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
On 11/17/06, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Learning logic is similar to learning grammar. A statistical model can classify words into syntactic categories by context, e.g. "the X is" tells you that X is a noun, and that it can be used in novel contexts where other nouns have been obse

Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-17 Thread Matt Mahoney
nchronous network, some neurons would have slow response times and not need to be updated every cycle. Of course this requires lots of experimentation, and the experiments take a long time. -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message From: YKY (Yan King Yin) <[EMAIL P

Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-17 Thread James Ratcliff
"YKY (Yan King Yin)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/16/06, James Ratcliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Correct, > Using inferences only works in toy, or small well understood domains, as > inevitably when it goes 2+ steps away from direct knowledge it will be making > large assumptions an

Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-17 Thread James Ratcliff
network, some neurons would have slow response times and not need to be updated every cycle. Of course this requires lots of experimentation, and the experiments take a long time. -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message From: YKY (Yan King Yin) To: agi@v2.list

Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-17 Thread Mark Waser
. - Original Message - From: James Ratcliff To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL Not quite gonna work that way unfortunatly. (I think) The 10^9 figure you used was the compressed amount of data for a lifetime

Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-17 Thread Matt Mahoney
slightly each run), but you could not use it to decompress. I don't see that the requirement for deterministic computation should be an obstacle to building a language model on a computer. -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message From: James Ratcliff <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Re: [agi] One grammar parser URL

2006-11-12 Thread Ben Goertzel
ot;I ate pizza with {pepperoni|George|chopsticks}" all have the same parse. -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message From: James Ratcliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:11:32 PM Subject: [agi] One grammar parser URL Dur