[agi] Worst case scenario

2007-12-07 Thread Bryan Bishop
Here's the worst case scenario I see for ai: that there has to be hardware complexity to the extent that generally nobody is going to be able to get the initial push. Indeed, there's Moore's law to take account of, but the economics might just prevent us from accumulating enough nodes, enough

Re: [agi] Worst case scenario

2007-12-10 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Bryan Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's the worst case scenario I see for ai: that there has to be > hardware complexity to the extent that generally nobody is going to be > able to get the initial push. Indeed, there's Moore's law to take > account of, but the economics might just

Re: [agi] Worst case scenario

2007-12-10 Thread Bryan Bishop
On Monday 10 December 2007, Matt Mahoney wrote: > The worst case scenario is that AI wipes out all life on earth, and > then itself, although I believe at least the AI is likely to survive. http://lifeboat.com/ex/ai.shield Re: how much computing power is needed for ai. My worst-case scenario acc

Re: [agi] Worst case scenario

2007-12-11 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Bryan Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 10 December 2007, Matt Mahoney wrote: > > The worst case scenario is that AI wipes out all life on earth, and > > then itself, although I believe at least the AI is likely to survive. > > http://lifeboat.com/ex/ai.shield SIAI has not yet so

Re: [agi] Worst case scenario

2007-12-11 Thread Bob Mottram
On 11/12/2007, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://lifeboat.com/ex/ai.shield That's quite amusing. Safeguarding humanity against dancing robots. I don't believe that technology is something you can run away from, in a space lifeboat or any other sort of refuge. You just have to t

Re: [agi] Worst case scenario

2007-12-11 Thread Bryan Bishop
On Tuesday 11 December 2007, Matt Mahoney wrote: > --- Bryan Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Re: how much computing power is needed for ai. My worst-case > > scenario accounts for nearly any finite computing power, via the > > production of semiconductant silicon wafer tech. > > A human brain

Re: [agi] Worst case scenario

2007-12-11 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Bob Mottram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SIAI has not yet solved the friendliness problem. > > I've always had problems with the concept of "friendliness" spoken > about by folks from SIAI. It seems like a very ill-defined concept. > What does "friendly to humanity" really mean? It seems t

Re: [agi] Worst case scenario

2007-12-11 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Bryan Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 11 December 2007, Matt Mahoney wrote: > > --- Bryan Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Re: how much computing power is needed for ai. My worst-case > > > scenario accounts for nearly any finite computing power, via the > > > production