RE: [agi] the Place system of the rodent hippocampus

2003-02-24 Thread Ben Goertzel
Hmmm... So, I'm thinking: The human brain is wired to do a lot of abstract cognition in terms of metaphorical maps of the environment, and these are tied in with macro-world classical physics This may be part of the reason we're so bad at thinking about the quantum microworld So: Maybe in

Re: [agi] the Place system of the rodent hippocampus

2003-02-24 Thread Brad Wyble
On the face of it, these place maps are very reminiscent of attractors as found in formal attractor neural networks. When multiple noncorrelated maps are stored in the same collection of neurons, this sounds like multiple attractors being stored in the same formal neural net. Yeap, there's

RE: [agi] the Place system of the rodent hippocampus

2003-02-24 Thread Ben Goertzel
Yeap, there's well developed theories about how an autoassociate network like CA3 could support multiple, uncorrelated attractor maps and sustain activity once one of them was activated. The big debate is about how they are formed. The standard way attractors are formed in formal ANN

Re: [agi] the Place system of the rodent hippocampus

2003-02-24 Thread Ed Heflin
- Original Message - From: Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 6:08 PM Subject: RE: [agi] the Place system of the rodent hippocampus Hmmm... So, I'm thinking: The human brain is wired to do a lot of abstract cognition in terms

Re: [agi] the Place system of the rodent hippocampus

2003-02-24 Thread Brad Wyble
Yeap, there's well developed theories about how an autoassociate network like CA3 could support multiple, uncorrelated attractor maps and sustain activity once one of them was activated. The big debate is about how they are formed. The standard way attractors are formed in formal

RE: [agi] the Place system of the rodent hippocampus

2003-02-24 Thread Ben Goertzel
Hi, Using artificial rules, such as hardball winner-take-all and synaptic weight normalization, it's doable to get ANN's to do this. But in an autoassociative network with realistic biophysical properties, controlling activity to prevent runaway synaptic modification is a very large

RE: [agi] the Place system of the rodent hippocampus

2003-02-24 Thread Ben Goertzel
I wrote, pertaining to problems of positive feedback causing erroneous or uncontrollable dynamics: The fact that similar problems occur in Novamente inference as well as in the brain, suggests that they're general system-theoretic problems in some sense, perhaps occurring in any distributed

Re: [agi] the Place system of the rodent hippocampus

2003-02-24 Thread Cliff Stabbert
Monday, February 24, 2003, 8:24:22 PM, Ben Goertzel wrote: BG I wrote, pertaining to problems of positive feedback causing erroneous or BG uncontrollable dynamics: The fact that similar problems occur in Novamente inference as well as in the brain, suggests that they're general

RE: [agi] the Place system of the rodent hippocampus

2003-02-24 Thread Ben Goertzel
Perhaps in Novamente you'll find that a certain scenario lends itself to various different attractors of sets-of-truth-values, and that shaking it up and finding new attractors (and comparing them to the old ones) could be valuable... -- Cliff yah -- we have conceived a mechanism of