BUS: Article 5 invokation

2017-05-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
Unicorn NalgeneDissolution Endemic Anemocrat Diaspora Usual forum please. Last invoked: 2012 (all voting debts 0).

BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Full Logical Ruleset

2017-05-22 Thread Gaelan Steele
I CFJ on these statements: “Any player may take the office of Rulekeepor with 2 support.” [i.e. I got a pink slip] “o committed a cardable offense in issuing a Pink Slip to Gaelan.” I bar o from both CFJs. Arguments: I don’t believe I committed a crime. o claimed that I committed Forgery;

Re: BUS: Cleanup Time (and Markdown reward agency)

2017-05-22 Thread Gaelan Steele
I resolve this intent. Gaelan > On May 18, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > uhh. I meant “rule changes.” > > For each of the following rule changes, I intend to cause “Cleanup Time” to > make that change, without Objection: > > Amend the following rules by

BUS: No Sneakiness

2017-05-22 Thread Gaelan Steele
I create the power-1 proposal “No Sneakiness” by Gaelan: { Create a rule “No Sneakiness” with the following text: { If the rules specify that an action may be performed by sending a message to a public forum, any attempts to perform the action in a way that is clearly intended to prevent others

Re: BUS: Betterer Pledge

2017-05-22 Thread Quazie
I submit the following proposal: Proposal: "Betterer Pledges, (BBoRWCDaPWDaLoEWSWW)" AI=1.7 Coauthor='G., Gaelan, Aris, 天火狐' {{{ Replace the text of Rule 2450 with the following: {{{ Breaking a publicly-made pledge is a cardable offense. If a publicly-made pledge says that the

BUS: Betterer Pledge

2017-05-22 Thread Quazie
I submit the following proposal: Proposal: "Betterer Pledges, but because of reasons we can't define a pledge without doing a lot of extra work, so we won't" AI=1.7 Coauthor='G., Gaelan, Aris' {{{ Replace the text of Rule 2450 with the following: {{{ Breaking a publicly-made pledge is a

BUS: Judgment of CFJ 3507

2017-05-22 Thread caleb vines
Taking into account (recent) precedent and in the interest of a judgment that is best for Agora in the future, I judge CFJ 3507 DISMISS and submit the following arguments. The joint judgment in CFJs 3499 and 3500 lays out a clear judicial and linguistic precedent for the use of language in Agora

BUS: Meta-pledge

2017-05-22 Thread Aris Merchant
Just in case this is ambiguous now too: Pledge: A player shall not make any pledge that would create new obligations for any other person. This pledge persists for as long as is permitted by the rules. -Aris

Re: BUS: I Trust in Agencies

2017-05-22 Thread Quazie
As 24 hours have past, I Establish WTQ On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 2:17 PM Quazie wrote: > I intend, with 24 hours notice, the establish the following agency: > > Title: Who Trusts Quazie (WTQ) > Agents: All Players > Powers: If a player issues Quazie a Trust Token from

BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3505 assigned to Quazie

2017-05-22 Thread Quazie
If CuddleBeam has no Shinies, and I am the judge summoned to judge CFJ 3505, and the conditional in the pledge would mean CuddleBeam has to pay me a shiney if e has one, then I transfer one Shiny to CuddleBeam so that they will transfer it back to me (so they don't break eir pledge). Also -

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Let us begin the winning (fwd)

2017-05-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 22 May 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: > It is also unclear if the election is limited to "announced" non-players, > given R2482: "non-player persons can also become valid options during the > voting period by announcement." If this clause is non-functional due to > conflicts with R107, it

Re: BUS: my favorite color is relevant

2017-05-22 Thread Quazie
I make myself ineligible to judge CFJs by CuddleBeam until further notice, if possible. On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 7:49 AM Nic Evans wrote: > Language, as used by humans, is descriptive not prescriptive. You can't > force any meanings or content to exist without consensus among

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Let us begin the winning (fwd)

2017-05-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
Oops, forgot something... I withdraw my most recent CFJ. I CFJ on: In a message dated Mon, 22 May 2017 15:31:30 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus initiated an Agoran Decision. I Bar Publius Scribonius Scholasticus. [this is the only difference] Caller's Arguments:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Let us begin the winning

2017-05-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
I'll say this officially: I hereby identify, as per R107, that the below notice lacks: (b) A clear indication of the set of valid votes. (message in question) > True, the CoE having been successful, I hereby initiate a Victory Election > with > all players, announced non-players, and

Re: BUS: Getting in on Agencies

2017-05-22 Thread Quazie
So this is an agency that allows you to refer to this agency? On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 12:33 Josh T wrote: > I intend to establish the following Agency after 24 hours: > > Name: ⌑≌⋻ შეესაბამება एजेन्सी (⌑შए) > Agents: All persons > Powers: Any person may refer to this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Let us begin the winning

2017-05-22 Thread Josh T
> I hereby initiate a Victory Election with all players, announced non-players, and PRESENT as valid options and the Herald as the vote collector. I would be in favor of all watchers (Ørjan and others) and G. putting emselves into the race. The ballots should be cast in an instant runoff format.

BUS: Proposal: fast resolution 2.0

2017-05-22 Thread Gaelan Steele
I create this proposal "Fast Resolution" by Gaelan with AI 3.1 { Create rule "Fast Resolution" (Power 3.1) { For the purposes of this rule, an Agoran Decision's Pertinent Information is the set of all information that the vote collector must use to determine the result of the decision. If,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Let us begin the winning

2017-05-22 Thread caleb vines
On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > True, the CoE having been successful, I hereby initiate a Victory > Election with all players, announced non-players, and PRESENT as valid > options and the Herald as the vote

BUS: Getting in on Agencies

2017-05-22 Thread Josh T
I intend to establish the following Agency after 24 hours: Name: ⌑≌⋻ შეესაბამება एजेन्सी (⌑შए) Agents: All persons Powers: Any person may refer to this Agency by another name, provided that it is unambiguous. Given that the transliteration of the name, UShE is recommended. Additional notes: This

Re: BUS: [Herald] Let us begin the winning

2017-05-22 Thread caleb vines
On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Josh T wrote: > > I hereby initiate a Victory Election with all players or announced > non-players as valid options and the Herald as the vote collector. I would > be in favor of all watchers (Ørjan and others) and G. putting emselves

Re: BUS: [Herald] Let us begin the winning

2017-05-22 Thread Josh T
> I hereby initiate a Victory Election with all players or announced non-players as valid options and the Herald as the vote collector. I would be in favor of all watchers (Ørjan and others) and G. putting emselves into the race. The ballots should be cast in an instant runoff format. I vote for

BUS: humble agoran farmer reunites with long-lost twins, becomes immortal and sells CFJ slots for only $2.99

2017-05-22 Thread CuddleBeam
I, Cuddlebeam, register for Agora. I, Cuddlebeam, register for Agora. I, Cuddlebeam, register for Agora. I, Cuddlebeam, register for Agora. This is my 24 hour notice for creating the following Agencies: Name: Cuddlebeam's Lich Phylactery (CLP) Agents: Any person Powers: Agents may post a message

Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer tends crops

2017-05-22 Thread Nic Evans
On 05/22/17 12:44, CuddleBeam wrote: > > Powers: Any Agent may add additional characters to the text content of the > Powers of this agency as long as such changes keep these Powers functionally > synonymous to the Powers that this agency had at its creation. > This power is ineffective. The

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Let us begin the winning

2017-05-22 Thread Quazie
Not a public forum - Please resend G. On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 10:40 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Mon, 22 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > People can stop objecting because it is already dead. > > People can remove objections, so it's prudent not to

BUS: humble agoran farmer tends crops

2017-05-22 Thread CuddleBeam
*bites wheat* "I'll tell ya h'wat, after jus 24 hours, dese here Agencies are a-RIPE'N!" "Hella faster than 'taters." "And essential fur a here good, balanced diet of ur greenies, ur meaties, and ur food fur thought." *chews more wheat* --- By virtue of Rule 2467/1 and as per my

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Let us begin the winning

2017-05-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 22 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > People can stop objecting because it is already dead. People can remove objections, so it's prudent not to rely on a single person's (I only saw one person object to every one of them, though maybe I missed some). > As to the

Re: BUS: [Herald] Let us begin the winning

2017-05-22 Thread Quazie
To the proper forum this time. -- Forwarded message - From: Quazie Date: Mon, May 22, 2017 at 10:22 AM Subject: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Let us begin the winning To: On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 3:10 PM Publius Scribonius

BUS: Enough power to power the cards

2017-05-22 Thread Quazie
I submit the following proposal: "Issuing Cards is secured with power threshold 1.7." AI=1.7 {{{ Change the power of rule (Bankruptcy) to 1.7 Change the power of rule 2451 (Executive Orders) to 1.7 }}} --- As I've stated in discussion, these rules can't actually issue cards without this

BUS: Agency: grok's Favorite Player

2017-05-22 Thread caleb vines
I intend to establish the following Agency in 24 hours: Name: grok's Favorite Player (gFP) Powers: 1) gFP has a single Name switch. gFP's Name switch can only be flipped by the Director of gFP. The legal values for the Name switch are the name of any single registered Player as defined by Rule

Re: BUS: Request to Join CFJ Pool

2017-05-22 Thread Nic Evans
While we're on the note I ask to not be assigned any CFJs that aren't actually intended to resolving conflicts or ambiguity within the course of normal play. Or, if that's not possible/reasonable, just remove me from the pool. On 05/22/17 09:25, caleb vines wrote: > I would like to be added to

Re: BUS: my favorite color is relevant

2017-05-22 Thread Nic Evans
Language, as used by humans, is descriptive not prescriptive. You can't force any meanings or content to exist without consensus among users, or at least formally defining it in the Agoran rules to override consensus. I recommend DISMISS. On 05/22/17 08:29, CuddleBeam wrote: > For the purpose of

BUS: Request to Join CFJ Pool

2017-05-22 Thread caleb vines
I would like to be added to the pool of judges for future CFJs. -grok

Re: BUS: [Herald] Let us begin the winning

2017-05-22 Thread caleb vines
On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I hereby initiate a Victory Election with all players or announced > non-players as valid options and the Herald as the vote collector. I would > be in favor of all watchers

Re: BUS: Re: Proposals 7853-7857

2017-05-22 Thread caleb vines
I vote as follows on Proposals 7853-7857 > > ID Author(s) AI Title Pender Pend fee > (sh.) > > > - > > 7853* ais5233.0 Close Ancient Loopholesais523 N/A [1] > PRESENT

Re: Re: BUS: Ok so maybe everyone in the universe is playing Nomic

2017-05-22 Thread CuddleBeam
Heyo Quazie! I disagree tho I believe it would a Nomic that was fairly meticulous to play, that requires a lot of announcements as part of gameplay, but a Nomic none the less. What do you think?

BUS: my favorite color is relevant

2017-05-22 Thread CuddleBeam
For the purpose of this message, "Cuddlebeam's Big Language" is a language with the following rules: * Cuddlebeam's Big Language is identical to English, with the addition that the Universe is a pictographic special cipher (in itself). This is the Big Cipher. * The Big Cipher, instead of being

BUS: hire me bill gates

2017-05-22 Thread CuddleBeam
I establish the following Agency: (This is my 24 hours notice) Title: Cuddlebeam's Computer Emulation (CCE) Agents: All Players Powers: For the purpose of this document, there exists the following entities: * The Screen * Pixels * The Keyboard * Keys * The Clock * The Cartridge * The

Re: BUS: [Herald] Let us begin the winning

2017-05-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
PRESENT is also an option. Do I need to reinitiate the vote? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > On 05/21/2017 05:10 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > I hereby initiate a Victory Election with all players or

Re: BUS: Wait, do I seriously not have a Blue Ribbon?

2017-05-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2017-05-22 at 08:42 +0100, Alex Smith wrote: > I award myself a Blue Ribbon. > > (I judged CFJ 3504 yesterday.) And while we're on the subject of Ribbon gains: I Declare an Honour, specifying myself and "Disaster Averting Machine". I award myself the patent title "Disaster Averting

BUS: Wait, do I seriously not have a Blue Ribbon?

2017-05-22 Thread Alex Smith
I award myself a Blue Ribbon. (I judged CFJ 3504 yesterday.) -- ais523

BUS: Re: DIS: CFJs 3502 , 3503 judged

2017-05-22 Thread Owen Jacobson
TTttPF. Thanks, Ørjan. -o > On May 22, 2017, at 3:10 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > On May 20, 2017, at 3:47 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > >> On Sat, 2017-05-20 at 07:04 +, Quazie wrote: >>> I CFJ on the following Two Linked Statements: >>> It is

BUS: CFJ 3495 judged FALSE on reconsideration

2017-05-22 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On May 22, 2017, at 2:45 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > >> On May 19, 2017, at 3:13 PM, Alex Smith wrote: >> >> On Tue, 2017-05-16 at 06:19 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >> wrote: >>> CFJ: A non-player can hold an office and judge

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3482 found FALSE.

2017-05-22 Thread Owen Jacobson
TTttPF. > On May 22, 2017, at 2:52 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > Oy. What a hash I’ve made, all by failing to search for a single term. > > I move to reconsider this judgement. As I am the judge, I can do so by > announcement (r. 911). I also immediately pass judgement on it.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3482 found FALSE.

2017-05-22 Thread Quazie
Given what G. Has stated below: I file a motion to reconsider CFJ 3482 with two support. On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 23:46 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Mon, 22 May 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > No rule defines an “Instrument.” > R1688 defines "Instrument" explicitly: "An

BUS: CFJ 3495 judged TRUE

2017-05-22 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On May 19, 2017, at 3:13 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 2017-05-16 at 06:19 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: >> CFJ: A non-player can hold an office and judge judgments. > > This is CFJ 3495. I assign it to o. (I can't link it with the CFJ > called

BUS: CFJ 3482 found FALSE.

2017-05-22 Thread Owen Jacobson
I find the statement Repealed Rule 2469 (Dictatorship) is an Instrument with Power-3. FALSE. This statement was the subject of CFJ 3482. We can break down the statement into two parts: 1. Repealed Rule 2469 (Dictatorship) is an Instrument 2. If repealed Rule 2469 (Dictatorship) is an

BUS: [ACU] Withdrawing

2017-05-22 Thread Owen Jacobson
I flip my budget switch with the ACU to 0. I will no longer be publishing ACU balance updates. -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP

BUS: Judgement on CFJ 3492

2017-05-22 Thread Quazie
I Judge CFJ 3492 True: 天火狐 is, indeed, a member of 蘭亭社. I accept 天火狐's arguments which I will summarize below: * Rule 2461 "Death and Birth of Organizations" states that "When an organization is created this way, its Charter is set to the value that e specified, and the Budget switch for that

Re: BUS: Editing GOD

2017-05-22 Thread Quazie
I edit the title and powers of GOD as indicated, as 24 hours have passed. On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 8:22 PM Quazie wrote: > I intend, with 24 hours notice, to edit the title, and powers of GOD as > follows: > > Title: G. is Overlord of Dunce > Powers: > 1 - The ability to

BUS: [ACU] Bank Statement

2017-05-22 Thread Owen Jacobson
Agoran Credit Union report Date of this report: Sun, 21 May 2017 Date of last report: Sun, 14 May 2017 Recent events (all times UTC) Mon 1 May 00:00:00 Union Credits increase (ais523 +90, aranea +150, Murphy +150, o +150, omd +60, Sprocklem +60) - previous report

BUS: [AVM] Bid changes

2017-05-22 Thread Owen Jacobson
I cause the Agoran Voting Market to pay me 6 Shinies and retract my offer to sell 1 vote for 69 Shinies. I pay the Agoran Voting Market 5 Shinies and create an offer to sell 1 vote for 20 Shinies. -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP