Re: [@ais523] CFJs 4084, 4085 [Re: BUS: CFJ - 4st/apathy name clarifications (@Arbitor)]

2024-06-01 Thread ais523 via agora-business
On Mon, 2024-05-27 at 12:53 -0500, nix via agora-business wrote: > On 5/27/24 10:52, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: > > I CFJ: "Agora is a game of nomic", barring 4st > > I number this CFJ 4084. I assign it to myself. I judge it IRRELEVANT. > > > I CFJ: "The CFJ above bars the player

[@ais523] CFJs 4084, 4085 [Re: BUS: CFJ - 4st/apathy name clarifications (@Arbitor)]

2024-05-27 Thread nix via agora-business
On 5/27/24 10:52, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: > I CFJ: "Agora is a game of nomic", barring 4st I number this CFJ 4084. I assign it to myself. I judge it IRRELEVANT. > > I CFJ: "The CFJ above bars the player currently named 'apathy'" I number this CFJ 4085. I assign it to ais523.

BUS: CFJ - 4st/apathy name clarifications (@Arbitor)

2024-05-27 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business
I CFJ: "Agora is a game of nomic", barring 4st I CFJ: "The CFJ above bars the player currently named 'apathy'" I'll generally respect people's preferred name, but frivolous cases like these go beyond my etiquette. I don't want to have to bother with these silly games.

Re: BUS: CFJ 4058 judged TRUE by Janet [attn. Arbitor]

2024-03-29 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-business
On 3/23/24 15:40, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > Arguments: > { > Well, this is a mess. > > As best as I can tell, these are the relevant purported events: > > Message 128 "[Assessor] Resolutions of Proposals 1n't-9n't": > * Proposal 4n't: -2 rules > * Proposal 6n't: -1 rule > > Message

BUS: CFJ 4057 judged TRUE by Janet [attn. Arbitor]

2024-03-29 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-business
CFJ 4057: > CFJ: As a result of the 2023 Agoran't Birthday Tournament, Kate and Janet > won the game. I judge CFJ 4057 as follows. Arguments: { Well, this is a mess. As best as I can tell, these are the relevant purported events: Message 128 "[Assessor] Resolutions of Proposals 1n't-9n't":

Re: BUS: CFJ 4058 judged TRUE by Janet [attn. Arbitor]

2024-03-23 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-business
On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 8:10 PM Sarah S. via agora-business < agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > i petition the herald to award snail the patent title of champion > > - > R. Lee > I respond to this petition as follows: I already did that :) everyone who won got their champion title, we

Re: BUS: CFJ 4058 judged TRUE by Janet [attn. Arbitor]

2024-03-23 Thread Sarah S. via agora-business
On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 6:41 AM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Arguments: > { > Well, this is a mess. > > As best as I can tell, these are the relevant purported events: > > Message 128 "[Assessor] Resolutions of Proposals 1n't-9n't": > * Proposal 4n't: -2

BUS: CFJ 4058 judged TRUE by Janet [attn. Arbitor]

2024-03-23 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-business
Arguments: { Well, this is a mess. As best as I can tell, these are the relevant purported events: Message 128 "[Assessor] Resolutions of Proposals 1n't-9n't": * Proposal 4n't: -2 rules * Proposal 6n't: -1 rule Message 182 "[Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 10n't-17n't": * Proposal 12n't: -1

BUS: CFJ 4062 judged TRUE

2024-03-17 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-business
> On Mar 12, 2024, at 2:39 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion > wrote: > > >> On Mar 9, 2024, at 6:37 PM, nix via agora-business >> wrote: >> >> On 1/28/24 00:59, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: >>> I CFJ: "Proposal 9051, as part of its effect, applied a rule change." >>> >> >>

Re: BUS: CFJ 4072 Judged TRUE

2024-03-16 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-business
On 3/16/24 15:55, nix via agora-business wrote: > Rule 105 requires: > >     [...] an unambiguous and clear specification of the method to be >     used for changing the rule, at least 4 days and no more than 60 days >     before it would otherwise take effect. So, a potential point of

BUS: CFJ 4072 Judged TRUE

2024-03-16 Thread nix via agora-business
Text of CFJ 4072:     There exists an entity that is a Rule with ID number 2687. The argument made here boils down to this: * Since 2014, R105 has required rule changes to specify their method in   advance to be successful, AND * The boilerplate used for most (maybe all?) distributions since

CFJ 4054 Judged: Re: BUS: CFJ on appointing a Distributor

2024-03-14 Thread Kiako via agora-business
On or around 3/9/2024, nix via agora-business wrote: I deputize as Arbitor to assign CFJ 4054 to kiako. The text of the CFJ can be found here: https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg45340.html On or around 8/25/2023, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote: I CFJ:

Re: BUS: [CFJ] Another R105 CFJ

2024-03-12 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-business
> On Mar 11, 2024, at 7:17 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-business > wrote: > I CFJ: "There exists an entity that is a Rule with ID number 2687." > > > > Arguments: > { > > Proposal 7710, adopted 2014-11-03, created the four day rule as we know it, > reading: > { > A rule change is

[Arbitor] Assignment of CFJ 4072 to nix [Re: BUS: [CFJ] Another R105 CFJ]

2024-03-11 Thread nix via agora-business
On 3/11/24 19:16, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I CFJ: "There exists an entity that is a Rule with ID number 2687." I number this CFJ 4072. Unfortunately, I assign CFJ 4072 to nix. -- nix

BUS: [CFJ] Another R105 CFJ

2024-03-11 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-business
I CFJ: "There exists an entity that is a Rule with ID number 2687." Evidence: { Purported rules (SLR dated 2024-03-10): Rule 105/24 (Power=3) Rule Changes When the rules provide that an instrument takes effect, it

[Arbitor] @Gaelan Re: BUS: [CFJ] Semantic information in rule changes

2024-03-09 Thread nix via agora-business
On 1/28/24 00:59, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I CFJ: "Proposal 9051, as part of its effect, applied a rule change." > I number this CFJ 4062. I assign CFJ 4062 to Gaelan. -- nix Arbitor

BUS: [CFJ] Semantic information in rule changes

2024-01-27 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-business
I CFJ: "Proposal 9051, as part of its effect, applied a rule change." Evidence: { >From the assessment at [0]: {         // ID: 9051 Title: A Mossy Cabinet Adoption index: 2.0 Author: snail Co-authors: Amend Rule 2451

BUS: CFJ on appointing a Distributor

2023-08-25 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business
I CFJ: "It is generally POSSIBLE to alter the holder of the office of Distributor without objection." This arose in Agoran't, whose ruleset is still similar enough to Agora's that the same question is of interest in Agora. Note that this judgement will not set precedent (preceden't?) in Agoran't,

Re: BUS: [CFJ](@Stonemason, @Herald, @Arbitor) Reaching, Radiance, and Recursion

2023-06-04 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-business
On 6/1/23 17:16, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > I wield the radiance stone. (This increases my radiance by 3.) > I reach for the Minty stone. > I wield the recursion stone as the soul stone, specifying the > anti-equatorial stone. > I wield the anti-equatorial stone. (This transfers the

BUS: [CFJ](@Stonemason, @Herald, @Arbitor) Reaching, Radiance, and Recursion

2023-06-01 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-business
I wield the radiance stone. (This increases my radiance by 3.) I reach for the Minty stone. I wield the recursion stone as the soul stone, specifying the anti-equatorial stone. I wield the anti-equatorial stone. (This transfers the power stone to me.) CFJ: I currently own the recursion stone.

BUS: CFJ 4033 judged IRRELEVANT. (Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4033 Assigned to nix)

2023-05-30 Thread nix via agora-business
On 5/25/23 18:37, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > === CFJ 4033 === > > There is a currently registered player named “blob”. > > == I judge this CFJ

BUS: CFJ 4022 judged TRUE (Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4022 Assigned to nix)

2023-05-08 Thread nix via agora-business
On 5/8/23 11:51, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > I am not guilty of violating No Faking by collecting taxes. On April 29th 4st published the following message: Under penalty of no faking, as Referee, I do the following game action for each active player: I collect that

BUS: [CFJ] regulated unregulations

2023-05-04 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
(this will be a fun week for the Arbitor) I CFJ: In Rule 2125, the phrase 'The Rules SHALL NOT be interpreted so as to proscribe unregulated actions' proscribes unregulated actions. Arguments Currently, an action that's made ILLEGAL by a SHALL NOT does not in itself make that action regulated

BUS: [CFJ, @Arbitor] (@Stonemason, @Herald) Heading down to stone town

2023-03-14 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-business
On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 7:07 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 3/14/23 01:57, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > > I wield the Radiance stone. (This increases my radiance by 3.) > > > This fails. The Radiance stone is a new stone and was not

BUS: [CFJ] Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Notes on Application of Proposals 8900-8910

2023-02-27 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-business
On 2/26/23 01:25, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: > In Proposal 8906: > >> Amend Rule 2643 ("Collecting Stones") by prepending the following paragraph: >> >> { >> >> A stone is immune if and only if it is defined as such by the rules of >> power not less than 2. >> >> A stone is immune if it

BUS: [CFJ] device definition cfj convergence

2023-02-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
I CFJ, barring ais523: There are different types of devices described or defined in R2654 which do not refer to the device switch defined in R2655. Arguments In CFJ 3941, I judged: > First, to be clear, The Device switch and The Device rule are not > "devices" by virtue of their names alone.

BUS: [CFJ] What Round is it?

2022-10-20 Thread nix via agora-business
CFJ: It is round 2,098. Arguments = Rounds are defined in R1023 alongside pivots: A pivot is either the instant at which Agora Nomic began (June 30, 1993, 00:04:30 GMT +1200) or an instant at which at least one person won the game. When used

(@Arbitor) Re: BUS: CFJ 3994 assigned to ais523

2022-09-15 Thread ais523 via agora-business
On Sun, 2022-09-11 at 18:05 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 9/10/22 19:11, ziproot via agora-business wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Sep 2022 19:51:07 -0300 > > "Juan F. Meleiro via agora-business - agora-business@agoranomic.org" > > wrote: > > > > > I deputize as Registrar and initiate

(@Arbitor) Re: BUS: CFJ 3987, CFJ 3988 assigned to ais523

2022-08-25 Thread ais523 via agora-business
On Sun, 2022-08-21 at 00:22 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 8/16/22 12:42, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > 1. Delivering a CFJ judgement that doesn't accord with the first > > paragraph of R217 is a rules violation. > > The above is CFJ 3987. [snip] > > 2. Delivering

BUS: [CFJ] On the legality of poor judgement

2022-08-16 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
[This is orthogonal to the "alternative" CFJ system but is something that seemed interesting when I was thinking about it]. I submit the following two linked CFJs: 1. Delivering a CFJ judgement that doesn't accord with the first paragraph of R217 is a rules violation. 2. Delivering a CFJ

(@notary, @treasuror) Re: BUS: [cfj] Re: small contract test

2022-08-12 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
I change (consent to modify) the below contract by adding the following line item to its text: 3. G. CAN transfer assets from this Contract by announcement. I transfer 1 coin from the contract to Madrid. This may fail if the contract has 0 coins. (now the coin balances should be

Re: BUS: [cfj] Re: small contract test

2022-08-12 Thread Madrid via agora-business
grat arguments for TRUE: - the transfer happened therefore there was a transfer - i have more reasons that i cant tell you but that undeniably say that im right. - its in the best interests of the game for me to have more money. On Thursday, August 11, 2022, Kerim Aydin via agora-business <

BUS: [cfj] Re: small contract test

2022-08-11 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
[Just signalling the cfj in the subject line. None of the actions below are re-performed]. On 8/11/2022 11:25 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On 8/11/2022 11:20 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> I agree/consent to the following contract "Auto-Repeal Test": >> --- >> 1. Only G. can join this. >>

Re: (@Arbitor, Assessor, Promotor) Re: BUS: CFJ 3978, CFJ 3979 assigned to ais523

2022-07-16 Thread Madrid via agora-business
I support. On Saturday, July 16, 2022, secretsnail9 via agora-business < agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I intend, with 2 support, to group-file a Motion to Reconsider CFJ 3978. > (Or ais523 could just self-file and address this which would be cool.) > > > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 2:52

Re: (@Arbitor, Assessor, Promotor) Re: BUS: CFJ 3978, CFJ 3979 assigned to ais523

2022-07-15 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-business
I intend, with 2 support, to group-file a Motion to Reconsider CFJ 3978. (Or ais523 could just self-file and address this which would be cool.) On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 2:52 PM ais523 via agora-business < agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > The text used by the author was "81 times, I

Re: (@Arbitor, Assessor, Promotor) Re: BUS: CFJ 3978, CFJ 3979 assigned to ais523

2022-07-15 Thread ais523 via agora-business
On Fri, 2022-07-15 at 17:41 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 7/15/22 15:51, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > > > > CFJ: Proposals 8806 through 8810 were submitted. > > > The above is CFJ 3979. > > > > > > I assign CFJ 3979 to ais523. > > This time, the attempted action was is "5

Re: (@Arbitor, Assessor, Promotor) Re: BUS: CFJ 3978, CFJ 3979 assigned to ais523

2022-07-15 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 7/15/22 15:51, ais523 via agora-business wrote: >>> CFJ: Proposals 8806 through 8810 were submitted. >> The above is CFJ 3979. >> >> I assign CFJ 3979 to ais523. > This time, the attempted action was is "5 times, I submit a proposal > with the following attributes:". This is significantly

(@Arbitor, Assessor, Promotor) Re: BUS: CFJ 3978, CFJ 3979 assigned to ais523

2022-07-15 Thread ais523 via agora-business
On Mon, 2022-07-11 at 18:19 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 7/10/22 23:01, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > > In addition, I think there is some clarification needed, so I > > submit 2 CFJs: > > CFJ: Proposals 8724 through 8804 were submitted. > > The above is CFJ 3978.

BUS: [CFJ] the empty page is the path to action

2022-07-04 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
I CFJ: G. Earned a Magenta Ribbon in 2022. Evidence: https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg42903.html Arguments: Since I have a Magenta (and transparent) ribbon this would be easy to judge IRRELEVANT as I can think of no recorded game state that is affected, but I

(@Arbitor) Re: BUS: CFJ 3975 assigned to ais523

2022-07-01 Thread ais523 via agora-business
[The original thread is a mess of top-posting and corrected actions, so trying to fix it to just the relevant ones:] On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 7:10 AM Madrid wrote: > I create the following contract called 'Relevance Forcer': > > "Madrid CAN transfer 1 coin to this contract by announcement. > >

BUS: CFJ 3972 Judged TRUE

2022-06-23 Thread nix via agora-business
Statement and Judgment -- CFJ 3972 states: At least one person was appointed Speaker in the quoted message. I judge this statement TRUE. Opening --- Snail has attempted to appoint a series of players to Speaker with support, pursuant to the following clause in

Re: BUS: [cfj] the speaker thing

2022-06-22 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
The below is CFJ 3972. I assign CFJ 3972 to nix (favoured). > CFJ, barring snail: At least one person was appointed Speaker in the > quoted message. > > > Arguments: > > At question is whether this clause in Rule 103/29: > If the office of Speaker has been held continuously by the same >

Re: BUS: [cfj] the speaker thing

2022-06-22 Thread nix via agora-business
On 6/22/22 16:46, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > CFJ, barring snail: At least one person was appointed Speaker in the > quoted message. > > > Arguments: > > At question is whether this clause in Rule 103/29: >If the office of Speaker has been held continuously by the same >

BUS: [cfj] the speaker thing

2022-06-22 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
CFJ, barring snail: At least one person was appointed Speaker in the quoted message. Arguments: At question is whether this clause in Rule 103/29: If the office of Speaker has been held continuously by the same person for 90+ days, then any player CAN appoint another player to

BUS: CFJ 3965 judgement

2022-06-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
On 6/12/2022 9:37 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 6/12/22 12:35, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> CFJ: "The entity at one point known as Rule 2658 is a Rule." > > The above is CFJ 3965. To generalize the situation, the important aspects of the rules text of Rule 2658 is as

BUS: [cfj] overprotection for simultaneous actions?

2022-06-15 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
CFJ: A player CAN buy bird food. Arguments: Rule 2663/0 (Bird Migration) professes to empower the buying of bird food as a fee-based action: > A player CAN buy bird food by paying a fee of 5 boatloads of > coins. As defined in Rule 2579/3 (Fee-based Actions), any fee is a

Re: BUS: [CFJ] Sets Repeal Cases

2022-06-12 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 6/12/22 12:35, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > CFJ: "The entity at one point known as Rule 2658 is a Rule." The above is CFJ 3965. > CFJ: "The entity at one point known as Rule 2658 has performed at least > one amendment of a Rule." The above is CFJ 3966. > CFJ: "The entity at one

BUS: [CFJ] Sets Repeal Cases

2022-06-12 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
CFJ: "The entity at one point known as Rule 2658 is a Rule." CFJ: "The entity at one point known as Rule 2658 has performed at least one amendment of a Rule." CFJ: "The entity at one point known as Rule 2658 has been amended at once during the time when it is/was a Rule." Arguments: { When

Re: [CFJ 3950, R. Lee] Re: BUS: (CFJ=@Arbitor) Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Notes on Application of Proposals 8638-8644

2022-03-16 Thread Sarah S. via agora-business
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 7:25 AM secretsnail9 via agora-business < agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 8:02 PM ais523 via agora-business < > agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On Sat, 2022-03-05 at 20:34 -0500, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote: > > > In this

[CFJ 3950, R. Lee] Re: BUS: (CFJ=@Arbitor) Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Notes on Application of Proposals 8638-8644

2022-03-13 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-business
On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 8:02 PM ais523 via agora-business < agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sat, 2022-03-05 at 20:34 -0500, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote: > > In this proposal: > > > > > ID: 8644 > > > Title: Device repeal patch > > > Adoption index: 1.0 > > > Author: Jason > > >

BUS: (CFJ=@Arbitor) Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Notes on Application of Proposals 8638-8644

2022-03-05 Thread ais523 via agora-business
On Sat, 2022-03-05 at 20:34 -0500, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote: > In this proposal: > > > ID: 8644 > > Title: Device repeal patch > > Adoption index: 1.0 > > Author: Jason > > Co-authors: ais523 > > > > Amend Rule 2655 by replacing "repeal both that rule and this one" > > with "repeal

Fwd: BUS: (CFJ judgement, Glitter) Re: OFF: [referee for Arbitor] CFJ 3946 assigned to ais523

2022-02-13 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-business
TTttPF Forwarded Message Subject: Re: BUS: (CFJ judgement, Glitter) Re: OFF: [referee for Arbitor] CFJ 3946 assigned to ais523 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 12:10:54 -0800 From: Edward Murphy To: agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org ais523 wrote: I judge CFJ 3946 FALSE. I award

BUS: (CFJ judgement, Glitter) Re: OFF: [referee for Arbitor] CFJ 3946 assigned to ais523

2022-02-07 Thread ais523 via agora-business
On Mon, 2022-02-07 at 13:04 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > I number the below cfj 3946 and assign it to ais523: > > Forwarded Message [snip] > CFJ: secretsnail deputized to respond to at least one petition in the > below message. [snip] > On 2/3/2022 11:15 AM,

Re: BUS: CFJ 3938 motion to reconsider filed (@Jason) [attn. Tailor]

2022-01-30 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 1/30/22 19:02, Jason Cobb wrote: > I issue the following judgement in CFJ3938 (small edits from revised > draft). I award myself blue glitter. -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: CFJ 3938 motion to reconsider filed (@Jason)

2022-01-30 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 1/26/22 17:02, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > On 1/26/2022 1:47 PM, Rose Strong via agora-business wrote: >> I support. > With 2 support, I group-file a motion to reconsider CFJ 3938. > > Gratuitous arguments: > > CFJs on the ratification of playerhood without consent: > >

Re: BUS: [CFJ] You get a device, and you get a device! Oh my god, everyone gets a device!

2022-01-30 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 1/30/22 13:30, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > On Sun, 2022-01-30 at 13:18 -0500, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> I CFJ: "Rule 2465 is a Device." > As usual for Device-related CFJs, I disfavour this CFJ. > >> Evidence: >> > [snip] >>

Re: BUS: [CFJ] You get a device, and you get a device! Oh my god, everyone gets a device!

2022-01-30 Thread ais523 via agora-business
On Sun, 2022-01-30 at 13:18 -0500, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I CFJ: "Rule 2465 is a Device." As usual for Device-related CFJs, I disfavour this CFJ. > Evidence: > [snip] > - > > Rule 2465/1 (Power=0.3) > Victory by

BUS: [CFJ] You get a device, and you get a device! Oh my god, everyone gets a device!

2022-01-30 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
I CFJ: "Rule 2465 is a Device." Arguments: { Per the most recent Mad Engineer report, the device is on. When the device is on, "A Device is an entity with positive Power." Rule 2465 is an entity with positive power, and it has lower power than Rule 2654, so Rule 2654 is capable of altering it,

BUS: CFJ 3938 motion to reconsider filed (@Jason)

2022-01-26 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
On 1/26/2022 1:47 PM, Rose Strong via agora-business wrote: > I support. With 2 support, I group-file a motion to reconsider CFJ 3938. Gratuitous arguments: CFJs on the ratification of playerhood without consent: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3455

Re: BUS: [cfj] nonexisting devices

2022-01-20 Thread ais523 via agora-business
On Wed, 2022-01-19 at 22:48 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > CFJ: The Device exists. I disfavour this CFJ – I may have a conflict of interest when it comes to the Device, so it's probably best to let someone else set Device- related precedents to reduce the risk of me trying to bias

BUS: [cfj] nonexisting devices

2022-01-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
CFJ: The Device exists. Arguments: This clause was added to the 'on' section of The Device more than 60 days ago: * The time window of a Device is W days, where W is the value explicitly stated by the Device, or 60 if the Device does not explicitly state a value. A

Re: BUS: CFJ of a Hypothetical

2022-01-10 Thread Madrid via agora-business
I favor this case, because I'm kind of not really up to anything else. On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 4:13 PM Rose Strong via agora-business < agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I CFJ: The minimum number of players needed for Agora to not be ossified is > 1. >

BUS: CFJ of a Hypothetical

2022-01-10 Thread Rose Strong via agora-business
I CFJ: The minimum number of players needed for Agora to not be ossified is 1.

BUS: (CFJ, @Rulekeepor) Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-12-30 Thread ais523 via agora-business
On Sun, 2021-12-26 at 20:11 +, ais523 via agora-official wrote: > On Sun, 2021-12-26 at 20:09 +, ais523 via agora-official wrote: > > The Device is on. > > > > I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule > > "The Device" by appending the following as a list item to

BUS: [CFJ] Re: White Glitter (thanks nix)

2021-10-25 Thread Falsifian via agora-business
Flagging for the Arbitor. This message contains no game actions. On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 12:08:20PM -0400, Rose Strong via agora-discussion wrote: > I CFJ: Falsifians gained White Glitter. > > On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 12:04 PM Falsifian via agora-business < > agora-business@agoranomic.org>

BUS: [CFJ] on two fugitives

2021-10-21 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
I call the following two linked CFJs, barring nix: 1. Evantine holds the patent title Fugitive. 2. R. Lee is a Fugitive. CALLER'S ARGUMENTS Proposal 8617, which took effect recently, reads as follows: >> ID: 8617 >> Title: Forgiveness >> Adoption index: 1.0 >> Author: nix >> Co-authors:

BUS: [CFJ] On ancient fugitives

2021-10-21 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
I CFJ: Evantine is a fugitive. Arguments Proposal 8617, which took effect recently, read as follows: > ID: 8617 > Title: Forgiveness > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: nix > Co-authors: G. > > > Agora formally forgives all fugitives listed on the most recent scroll > of Agora. > At the

BUS: [CFJ] Making the TotD's life a little harder [@TotD]

2021-10-06 Thread ais523 via agora-business
I act on behalf of the Device to cause em to deactivate emself. CFJ: The Device is off. Evidence: the first sentence of this message, the fact that the Device was on prior to this message, and: Excerpt from rule 2654: {{{ When the device is on: [...] A Device CAN activate

Re: BUS: [cfj] on continuity of planning

2021-09-29 Thread Sarah S. via agora-business
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 10:23 AM Sarah S. wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 9:14 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business < > agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> >> CFJ: If R. Lee registers in October and doesn't publish a plan to flip >> eir focus, eir focus would be flipped to Legislation

Re: BUS: [cfj] on continuity of planning

2021-09-29 Thread Sarah S. via agora-business
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 9:14 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business < agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > CFJ: If R. Lee registers in October and doesn't publish a plan to flip > eir focus, eir focus would be flipped to Legislation on Nov 1. > > > Arguments: > > R. Lee planned to flip eir focus

BUS: [cfj] on continuity of planning

2021-09-29 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
CFJ: If R. Lee registers in October and doesn't publish a plan to flip eir focus, eir focus would be flipped to Legislation on Nov 1. Arguments: R. Lee planned to flip eir focus on 18-Sept[1], while eir focus was Compliance[2]. E later deregistered[3], so e currently doesn't have a focus. I

Re: BUS: [cfj] on holidays

2021-09-12 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-business
grat args: - holidays are beloved by children worldwide and their gestalt psychic power have an effect far greater than what agora can ever hope to stop. - we need to assemble a specialist task force of color-coded and racially heterogeneous teens to fight this menace (preferably with the option

BUS: [cfj] on holidays

2021-09-12 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
CFJ: Making a particular day a holiday is a regulated action. I bar ais523 (no offense, just may be linked to other one). Caller's Arguments Arguments for FALSE: First, holiday is not defined by the rules. The only effects of making a day a holiday is (from R1769/15): If a person

BUS: CFJ 3922 REJUDGED false

2021-09-04 Thread Sarah S. via agora-business
D. Wet attempted to submit a proposal with the words "I propose to create a new rule". Previously, I found that this unambiguously created a proposal with the text following the word 'to'. A majority of Agorans voted to send the case back to me. A proposal must mandatorily 'specify' its text

Re: BUS: [CFJ] Re: OFF: [Stonemason] September Collection Notice

2021-09-04 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
On 9/3/2021 10:42 PM, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > On Sat, 2021-09-04 at 01:23 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote: >> I hereby publish the following collection notice (NOT a self- >> ratifying stone report): >> >> All stones are owned by Agora, and are thus immune. No escape

BUS: [CFJ] Re: OFF: [Stonemason] September Collection Notice

2021-09-03 Thread ais523 via agora-business
On Sat, 2021-09-04 at 01:23 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote: > I hereby publish the following collection notice (NOT a self- > ratifying stone report): > > All stones are owned by Agora, and are thus immune. No escape choices > are necessary. CFJ: If the above-quoted message had

Re: BUS: CFJ 3925 Assigned to ais523 [@Arbitor]

2021-08-31 Thread ais523 via agora-business
On Wed, 2021-09-01 at 11:46 +1000, Telna via agora-business wrote: > The below CFJ is 3925. I assign it to ais523. > > = > > If a Mad Scientist announces a random selection for a rule for a > specified future week, and the ruleset doesn't change, e both can, > and needs to, use that pick to

BUS: CFJ 3925 Assigned to ais523

2021-08-31 Thread Telna via agora-business
The below CFJ is 3925. I assign it to ais523. = If a Mad Scientist announces a random selection for a rule for a specified future week, and the ruleset doesn't change, e both can, and needs to, use that pick to fulfill eir weekly duties. Called by G.: Tue Aug 31 2021 14:43:34 = On

BUS: [cfj] pre-destiny

2021-08-31 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
CFJ: If a Mad Scientist announces a random selection for a rule for a specified future week, and the ruleset doesn't change, e both can, and needs to, use that pick to fulfill eir weekly duties. Arguments: For the "can" part of the cfj, Rule 2655 reads in part: The Mad Engineer's weekly

Re: BUS: CFJ 3922 judged TRUE

2021-08-28 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 8/28/21 03:11, Aspen via agora-business wrote: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 6:37 PM Sarah S. via agora-business > wrote: >> D. Wet attempted to create a proposal in an unorthodox manner. Eir message >> is quoted below. >> >> I propose to create a new Rule in the Agoran commmunity to be

Re: BUS: CFJ 3922 judged TRUE

2021-08-28 Thread Telna via agora-business
On 2021-08-28 17:11, Aspen via agora-business wrote:> I intend, with 2 support, to enter this judgement into moot. I support so that this controversial case can be decided by the will of Agora.

Re: BUS: CFJ 3922 judged TRUE

2021-08-28 Thread Aspen via agora-business
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 6:37 PM Sarah S. via agora-business wrote: > > D. Wet attempted to create a proposal in an unorthodox manner. Eir message > is quoted below. > > I propose to create a new Rule in the Agoran commmunity to be adopted > according to the current rule adoption

Re: BUS: CFJ 3922 judged TRUE [attn: Treasuror]

2021-08-27 Thread D. Wet via agora-business
25 aug. 2021 03:37:14 Sarah S. via agora-business : D. Wet attempted to create a proposal in an unorthodox manner. Eir message is quoted below. I propose to create a new Rule in the Agoran commmunity to be adopted according to the current rule adoption procedure. The Rule is:

BUS: CFJ 3922 judged TRUE

2021-08-24 Thread Sarah S. via agora-business
D. Wet attempted to create a proposal in an unorthodox manner. Eir message is quoted below. I propose to create a new Rule in the Agoran commmunity to be adopted according to the current rule adoption procedure. The Rule is: Onboarding of Newly Activated Players 1.

BUS: [cfj] simultaneous again

2021-08-06 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
I simultaneously plan to flip my focus to Legacy and flip my focus to Compliance. I CFJ: Assuming G. announces no further focus plans, eir focus will flip to Legacy at the beginning of the next month. Evidence: Rule 2638/0[extract] An active player CAN Plan to Flip eir own Ministry

BUS: [cfj] all at once

2021-08-06 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
I simultaneously transfer 1 coin to ais523 and 1 coin to Trigon. CFJ: G. simultaneously transferred 2 coins in this message. Arguments: Rule 478/39 reads in part: Any action performed by sending a message is performed at the time date-stamped on that

BUS: CFJ 3920 Judged FALSE, 3919 Judged TRUE

2021-07-21 Thread Rebecca Lee via agora-business
Trigon sent a message that was clearly received by all on 12 July (in my timezone UTC+10), but was headed as sent on 13 July for most recipients. Rule 478 tells us that a message is sent at the time the header shows it to be sent. Conflicting headers are to be resolved as a matter of game custom

BUS: CFJ 3918 judged FALSE

2021-07-21 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-business
CFJ 3918 asserts that, as nobody pointed any fingers last week, we all have the most successful finger pointings and are therefore eligible to claim a justice card. As the caller quoted, Rule 2478/16 refers to "The player who initiated the most Finger Pointings [...] in the previous Agoran Week".

BUS: CFJ on the recent Voting Strength scramble

2021-06-08 Thread ais523 via agora-business
CFJ: A player who possesses 3 Blots can have their Voting Strength on a particular decision go above 15 as a consequence of Buying Strength. CFJ: A player who possesses 3 Blots cannot change their Voting Strength via Buying Strength. Evidence (for both): {{{ Rule 2422/9 (Power=3) Voting

[CFJ] Re: BUS: CFJ 3907 Judged PARADOXICAL

2021-06-05 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
On 6/5/2021 2:46 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > I will also say that I am not at all convinced > that this CFJ provides grounds for a win by > paradox. Is this a "a CFJ about the > effectiveness, possibility, or legality of a > change in the gamestate"? I'd guess no, > but that's

BUS: CFJ 3907 Judged PARADOXICAL

2021-06-05 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-business
Judge's Arguments for CFJ 3907 Gaelan pledged "I pledge to violate this pledge, with a time window of one day." (Eir other pledge, which may or may not exist, is substantively equivalent for the purposes of this CFJ.) A day passed. Did Gaelan violate this pledge? There are two possibilities. 1)

BUS: [CFJ] Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Victory Auction] Resolution of April 2021 VA1

2021-05-16 Thread Falsifian via agora-business
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 09:53:28PM +, Trigon via agora-official wrote: > This is the termination message for the First Victory Auction of April 2021. > > List of bids (*=withdrawn player): > > amount bidder > == === > 100cn G. > 1cn Jason > 120cn Jason > 180cn

BUS: [CFJ] Empty Amendments

2021-04-18 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
I CFJ: "An amendment that results in no net change of text in a rule is a rulechange, and the Rulekeepor shall keep a record of it." Evidence: { Rule 105/22 (Power=3) Rule Changes When the rules provide that an instrument takes effect, it can generally: [snip] 4. amend the

Re: BUS: [CFJ] R. Lee's vote

2021-04-03 Thread nix via agora-business
On Sunday, March 28, 2021 11:08:30 PM CDT Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I CFJ, barring R. Lee: "R. Lee's votes on the referendums on proposals > 8549 and 8552-8555 were clearly specified." I indicate I'm an interested judge, and I favor this case. -- nix Ministor, Herald, Webmastor

Re: BUS: [CFJ] R. Lee's vote

2021-04-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-business
On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 9:09 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > I CFJ, barring R. Lee: "R. Lee's votes on the referendums on proposals > 8549 and 8552-8555 were clearly specified." > > Caller's arguments: > > On the relevant decisions, R. Lee voted "I vote AGAINST all agoran > decisions

BUS: [CFJ] R. Lee's vote

2021-03-28 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
I CFJ, barring R. Lee: "R. Lee's votes on the referendums on proposals 8549 and 8552-8555 were clearly specified." Caller's arguments: On the relevant decisions, R. Lee voted "I vote AGAINST all agoran decisions that add overall text to the ruleset, and PRESENT on the rest." This is clearly an

BUS: CFJ 3901 judged PARADOXICAL

2021-03-20 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-business
At question is a promise that purports to recursively create and cash a promise with identical text, causing G's vote on proposal 8543 to fluctuate indefinitely between two values. # What does it mean to cash a promise? 2618/2: { A promise's bearer CAN, by announcement, cash the promise,

BUS: [cfj] on ruleset ratification

2021-03-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business
I CFJ: Revision 0 of Rule 2029 contains the text "by G., Steve, Murphy, root". Arguments: R2029/0 as initially adopted (in 2002) included the text "by Goethe, Steve, Murphy, root". In 2017, a search/replace of the history section erroneously replaced "Goethe" with "G." in subsequent

BUS: CFJ 3900 judged FALSE (was: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Court Gazette)

2021-03-08 Thread ATMunn via agora-business
On 3/7/2021 2:25 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: 3900 Assigned to ATMunn [Due Fri 05 Mar 2021 00:08:14] https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3900 Murphy's most recent attempted cleaning of Rule 2463 was POSSIBLE and EFFECTIVE. Per the caller's

Re: (@referee) Re: @Tailor Re: BUS: CFJ 3899 judged TRUE [attn. Treasuror]

2021-03-07 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 2/24/21 1:59 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > Also, friendly reminder to H. Referee JTAC to grant Falsifian 5 BoC for a > timely judgement. > > On 2/23/2021 10:49 AM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 06:47:12PM +, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:

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