Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Generalize power-based allowance

2007-08-20 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: e.g. why bother enshrining the basic behavior of some concept in a Power 3 rule if you're going to let Power 2 rules modify that behavior? Perhaps some aspects need to be power=3 difficult to modify, but other aspects should be modifiable at power=2 in certain well-defined ways.

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5147-5171

2007-08-20 Thread Roger Hicks
I vote as follows. A vote on any of the below shall be taken to mean an infinite number of votes in that fashion on that proposal. Any proposal which does not have a vote listed is considered to be voted PRESENT: NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE 5147 Oi 1comex more knaves FOR 5148

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5147-5171

2007-08-20 Thread Zefram
Roger Hicks wrote: I vote as follows. A vote on any of the below shall be taken to mean an infinite number of votes in that fashion on that proposal. I don't believe you can do that. Finite repeat counts have been accepted as a shorthand for something that you could in principle do in full, but

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5147-5171

2007-08-20 Thread Taral
On 8/20/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whence the anti-Zefram movement? I don't think it's a personal thing, Zefram. For all we know, those votes could have been I'll vote AGAINST this one just because I can, and vote FOR the other because it's funny. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let

DIS: Re: BUS: proposals: truthfulness

2007-08-20 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: Amend rule 2149 by inserting the words or which e is reckless regarding the veracity of at the end of each sentence in the second paragraph. I still think this should define reckless, perhaps by example.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Generalize power-based allowance

2007-08-20 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: Ed Murphy wrote: e.g. why bother enshrining the basic behavior of some concept in a Power 3 rule if you're going to let Power 2 rules modify that behavior? Perhaps some aspects need to be power=3 difficult to modify, but other aspects should be modifiable at power=2 in certain

DIS: Re: BUS: Herald

2007-08-20 Thread Peekee
How reckless of you. Quoting Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: With Agoran consent, I install Peekee to the office of Herald. BobTHJ -- Peekee

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5145-5146

2007-08-20 Thread Zefram
Taral wrote: I vote as follows: (or do I?) I think that if you said you do then you actually do. You might therefore be violating a SHOULD in the statement that you do. Be glad P5147 hasn't been adopted yet, which would make it a SHALL. Perhaps your (or do I?) is sufficient qualifier to get

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5147-5171

2007-08-20 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Whence the anti-Zefram movement? -zefram Damn he's on to us. Move to plan B. -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5147-5171

2007-08-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On 8/20/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It might be a tall-poppies thing. Let's look at the VLOP and VC leaders, grouping partnerships with the players who most often control them in practice: 27 33 Zefram + Pineapple 15 23 Murphy + Human Point Two 12 9 BobTHJ +

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5147-5171

2007-08-20 Thread Pavitra
proposal which does not have a vote listed is considered to be voted PRESENT: This bit's fine. Might have unexpected consequences, though. I think you just voted PRESENT on proposals 5145 and 5146.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5147-5171

2007-08-20 Thread Zefram
Pavitra wrote: Might have unexpected consequences, though. I think you just voted PRESENT on proposals 5145 and 5146. Well spotted. E was somewhat unclear on which proposals e meant. Ultimately, of course, e didn't cast any votes at all, because of the infinitude issue. -zefram

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Refactor regulation

2007-08-20 Thread comex
On 8/18/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (a) The action CANNOT be performed, or CAN be performed ONLY IF certain conditions are satisfied. (b) The action MAY NOT be performed, or MAY be performed ONLY IF certain conditions are satisfied.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Refactor regulation

2007-08-20 Thread comex
On 8/20/07, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/18/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (a) The action CANNOT be performed, or CAN be performed ONLY IF certain conditions are satisfied. (b) The action MAY NOT be performed, or MAY be performed

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Refactor regulation, take three

2007-08-20 Thread Ed Murphy
Proposal: Refactor regulation (AI = 3, please) Amend Rule 2125 (Regulation Regulations) to read: An action is regulated if any of the following is true: (a) The rules specify that the action CANNOT be performed, or CAN be performed ONLY IF certain conditions are