Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJs 1873-1875: assign OscarMeyr

2008-01-23 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: According to the most recent Herald's report (published November 30), the MWoPs were Murphy, Human Point Two, Levi, and root, with Murphy having held the title the longest. Since then, HP2 lost MWoP (due to losing personhood) and then pikhq gained MWoP (by proposal, due to our thin

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposal 5417

2008-01-23 Thread Ed Murphy
Levi wrote: NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE 5417 D0 2Murphy No notes for disinterested proposals FOR NttPF.

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposal 5417

2008-01-23 Thread Levi Stephen
NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE 5417 D0 2Murphy No notes for disinterested proposals FOR Levi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2008-01-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Jan 23, 2008 5:35 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Jan 23, 2008 7:26 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Part of the point of R101 is to not be able to get around it. >> >> What kind of Nomic game has an immutable rule? > > It's not imm

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2008-01-23 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jan 23, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: On Jan 23, 2008 5:38 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What kind of Nomic game has an immutable rule? One that's starting with the standard initial ruleset. Those aren't truly immutable. If they were, they couldn't be transmuted

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2008-01-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Jan 23, 2008 5:38 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What kind of Nomic game has an immutable rule? > > One that's starting with the standard initial ruleset. Those aren't truly immutable. If they were, they couldn't be transmuted. -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2008-01-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Jan 23, 2008 5:35 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 23, 2008 7:26 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Part of the point of R101 is to not be able to get around it. > > What kind of Nomic game has an immutable rule? It's not immutable. It's just (ideally) non-preemptible.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2008-01-23 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jan 23, 2008, at 7:35 PM, comex wrote: On Jan 23, 2008 7:26 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Part of the point of R101 is to not be able to get around it. What kind of Nomic game has an immutable rule? One that's starting with the standard initial ruleset. - Benjamin Schultz

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2008-01-23 Thread comex
On Jan 23, 2008 7:26 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Part of the point of R101 is to not be able to get around it. What kind of Nomic game has an immutable rule?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2008-01-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Jan 23, 2008 4:58 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Uh, careful when talking about intent! I would have voted to keep > Power-4 around, fountain or no fountain (in case we ever have to go > above the head of R101). -Goethe Part of the point of R101 is to not be able to get around i

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJs 1873-1875: assign OscarMeyr

2008-01-23 Thread Benjamin Schultz
Draft #2: CFJ 1862 ruled that Human Point Two lost the Patent Title of Minister Without Portfolio when HP2 ceased to be a person. Between the calling of CFJ 1862 and 1875, HP2 did not resume being a person under the Rules of Agora. I therefore draft rule FALSE on CFJ 1873. In 1874 and 1

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2008-01-23 Thread Taral
On 1/23/08, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Requesting comments on whether or not this has a bug.] Depends on what you mean by bug. It has a feature... -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJs 1873-1875: assign OscarMeyr

2008-01-23 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jan 23, 2008, at 6:44 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: On Jan 23, 2008 4:39 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe I have the wrong 30 Nov 2007 report, my copy says: There is one from that date titled "OFF: The sudden return of the melodramatic [Herald]" and a second titled "OFF: [Heral

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2008-01-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: > R2140's restrictions specifically only apply to entities with power < > 3, so this works. Note this was intentional; the only reason we still > allow rules to have power > 3 is to maintain the fountain at its > original power. Uh, careful when talking abou

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJs 1873-1875: assign OscarMeyr

2008-01-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Jan 23, 2008 4:39 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe I have the wrong 30 Nov 2007 report, my copy says: There is one from that date titled "OFF: The sudden return of the melodramatic [Herald]" and a second titled "OFF: [Herald] Amended Report". -root

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJs 1873-1875: assign OscarMeyr

2008-01-23 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jan 23, 2008, at 6:36 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: On Jan 23, 2008 4:27 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: CFJ 1862 ruled that Human Point Two lost the Patent Title of Minister Without Portfolio when HP2 ceased to be a person. I don't see any relevant changes in the game state (namely

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJs 1873-1875: assign OscarMeyr

2008-01-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Jan 23, 2008 4:27 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CFJ 1862 ruled that Human Point Two lost the Patent Title of Minister > Without Portfolio when HP2 ceased to be a person. I don't see any > relevant changes in the game state (namely, HP2 did not reregister > and no changes wer

DIS: Re: OFF: CFJs 1873-1875: assign OscarMeyr

2008-01-23 Thread Benjamin Schultz
I know I'm late with these CFJs, hopefully this draft won't get too many points too wrong. CFJ 1862 ruled that Human Point Two lost the Patent Title of Minister Without Portfolio when HP2 ceased to be a person. I don't see any relevant changes in the game state (namely, HP2 did not reregis

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2008-01-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Jan 23, 2008 4:17 PM, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, it creates a power 4 rule, but only has an adoption index of 3. R2140's restrictions specifically only apply to entities with power < 3, so this works. Note this was intentional; the only reason we still allow rules to have p

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2008-01-23 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jan 23, 2008, at 6:04 PM, comex wrote: Proposal: Generalize Game Actions (AI=3) Create a new Rule, at Power=4, titled "Dictator", with the text: comex CAN and may at any time by announcement make any explicit change whatsoever to the gamestate, including but not limited to

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2008-01-23 Thread Levi Stephen
comex wrote: Proposal: Generalize Game Actions (AI=3) Create a new Rule, at Power=4, titled "Dictator", with the text: comex CAN and may at any time by announcement make any explicit change whatsoever to the gamestate, including but not limited to enacting, repealing, or amendi

DIS: Re: OFF: Resolving CotC election, Take II

2008-01-23 Thread Zefram
Levi Stephen wrote: >I hereby install Murphy as Clerk of the Courts. I've just posted an up-to-date judicial status report. I presume that Murphy has up-to-date case files for the open cases, by virtue of eir database. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Resolving CotC election

2008-01-23 Thread Levi Stephen
Josiah Worcester wrote: On Wednesday 23 January 2008 15:56:54 Levi Stephen wrote: This notice resolves the Agoran Decision for the holder of the Clerk of the Courts office. Votes: ZEFRAM: Zefram, root, Eris COMEX: Iammars MURPHY: Goethe, Murphy, OscarMeyr, Wooble, avpx, BobTHJ, comex The optio

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2008-01-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Jan 23, 2008 4:04 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Proposal: Generalize Game Actions (AI=3) > > Create a new Rule, at Power=4, titled "Dictator", with the text: > comex CAN and may at any time by announcement make any explicit > change whatsoever to the gamestate, including but

DIS: Re: OFF: Resolving CotC election

2008-01-23 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Wednesday 23 January 2008 15:56:54 Levi Stephen wrote: > This notice resolves the Agoran Decision for the holder of the Clerk of > the Courts office. > > Votes: > ZEFRAM: Zefram, root, Eris > COMEX: Iammars > MURPHY: Goethe, Murphy, OscarMeyr, Wooble, avpx, BobTHJ, comex > > The option selected

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposal 5417

2008-01-23 Thread Iammars
On Jan 23, 2008 10:53 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 22, 2008 7:53 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 5417 D0 2Murphy No notes for disinterested proposals > FOR -- -Iammars www.jmcteague.com