DIS: CotC site update

2008-07-23 Thread Ed Murphy
New search options: caller, judge, arguments/evidence text. Caveats: Only one option can be used at a time. Search by judge does not care whether the player's decision was final.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5649-5650

2008-07-23 Thread Ed Murphy
Quazie wrote: > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> 5649 O1 1.7 Quazie Partnerships devolve, and so should unqu... >> AGAINST x 17 (should explicitly lift the first-class restriction for >> initiating) > > I'll fix that then. Also, is the word basis

DIS: Re: BUS: It's all the rage these days.

2008-07-23 Thread Ed Murphy
tusho wrote: > 2008/7/21 Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> The following action will fail: I initiate a criminal CFJ against tusho for >> violating rule 2149 by stating that the initiation of this criminal CFJ will >> fail. >> >> tusho >> > > I retract any CFJs I initiated in this message, if

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5640-5648

2008-07-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > Assuming that tusho is not a player (CFJ 2074), Proposal 5648 was not > made democratic until after the end of the voting period. Rule 2142 > allows this, but what does it do to vote validity? Gratuitous: R683 strongly implies that a vote is valid if i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: It's all the rage these days.

2008-07-23 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/23 Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm also treating /this/ as insufficiently clear as to initiate a case. > > Give me an actual reason for it to fail apart from an offhand note.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5651-5657

2008-07-23 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/23 Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>5657 O1 1.5 comex enough already? > AGAINST*11 Do you find this interesting? Funny? Exciting? Good for Agora? Stop it. tusho

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: It's all the rage these days.

2008-07-23 Thread Ed Murphy
tusho wrote: > 2008/7/23 Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> I'm also treating /this/ as insufficiently clear as to initiate a case. >> >> > > Give me an actual reason for it to fail apart from an offhand note. An offhand note suffices. It's basically equivalent to announcing "I (do not yet) subm

DIS: Re: BUS: 3 / 11 = ???

2008-07-23 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/23 comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I intend, with 2 support, to make Proposal 5657 Democratic. > I offer my moral support.

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5651-5657

2008-07-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
> 5651 O1 1Quazie Left in a lull PRESENT > 5652 D1 2comex Awful proposal AGAINST > 5653 O1 1.5 BobTHJ Department of Corrections FOR * 8 > 5654 D0 2ais523 PRESENT > 5655 D1 2comex Allow chaotic ID numbers to be assigned AGAINST > 5656 O1

DIS: Re: BUS: 3 / 11 = ???

2008-07-23 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:09 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I intend, with 2 support, to make Proposal 5657 Democratic. > I support. I support.

Re: DIS: CotC site update

2008-07-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > New search options: caller, judge, arguments/evidence text. > > Caveats: Only one option can be used at a time. Search by judge > does not care whether the player's decision was final. Excellent. Thanks! -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Objecting and supporting

2008-07-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:29 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Rule 2124 (Agoran Satisfaction) does not include "specify" like >> the rule relevant to CFJ 1307 did. > > Rule 2208/0 (Power=3) > Clarity of Announcements > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5640-5648

2008-07-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Assuming that tusho is not a player (CFJ 2074), Proposal 5648 was not >> made democratic until after the end of the voting period. Rule 2142 >> allows this, but what does it do t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Objecting and supporting

2008-07-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:28 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yes, but where does it say that attempts to support such an action >> must be unambiguously specified? > > I CFJ on the statement: > > Publishing the messag

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Objecting and supporting

2008-07-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:28 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Yes, but where does it say that attempts to support such an action >>> must be un

DIS: Re: BUS: A different approach to making props useful

2008-07-23 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And without three objections I intend to make the following change to >> the Vote Market agreement: >> { >> Append the following to Section 10: >> {{ >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Objecting and supporting

2008-07-23 Thread comex
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, the "by announcement" criterion of R478 is not satisfied, because > it specifically only applies to rule-defined actions. Nowhere do the > rules define objecting to a dependent action as an action. Although Rule 2124 def

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A different approach to making props useful

2008-07-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think it would. That's why I worded it "who becomes" instead > of "who is". Becoming inactive or deregistered triggers the Slave > status on, there is no continuing requirement to remain that way. You worded it "who

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2008-07-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:47 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Come on. Statements like "I object to everything that can be > objected to" put a whole lot of unnecessary work on anyone who is > trying to perform a dependent action. How so? If I'm trying to perform a dependent action, it's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Objecting and supporting

2008-07-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Although Rule 2124 defines it as a message that must be sent, we treat > objecting very, very much like an action, which we send > pseudo-announcements in order to perform. Or is it a real > announcement? Although Rule 478 defin

Re: DIS: CotC site update

2008-07-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:03 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Caveats: Only one option can be used at a time. Search by judge > does not care whether the player's decision was final. It also seems to list any equity case as "case open", which I imagine has something to do with there no

Re: DIS: CotC site update

2008-07-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It also seems to list any equity case as "case open", which I imagine > has something to do with there not being a fixed set of available > judgments. Although oddly 1932 displays the judgment as "equation" when none of t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Objecting and supporting

2008-07-23 Thread comex
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why? If somebody attempts to perform an action by announcement, and > the action can't be performed by announcement, then obviously the > attempt fails regardless of whether R2208 can be applied to it. It > doesn't matter whe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Objecting and supporting

2008-07-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:35 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Why? If somebody attempts to perform an action by announcement, and >> the action can't be performed by announcement, then obviously the >> attempt fails re

DIS: RE: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2090 assigned to ais523

2008-07-23 Thread Alexander Smith
Taral wrote: > I support. With two support (root, Zefram) I appeal the judgement of CFJ 2090. Just out of interest, have I ever made a judgement that /hasn't/ been appealed? -- ais523 <>

DIS: RE: AAA - Secretary of Agriculture Report

2008-07-23 Thread Alexander Smith
BobTHJ wrote: > Federal Subsidy: 8 I request subsidisation. -- ais523 <>

Re: DIS: RE: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2090 assigned to ais523

2008-07-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Alexander Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Taral wrote: >> I support. With two support (root, Zefram) I appeal the judgement of CFJ >> 2090. > Just out of interest, have I ever made a judgement that /hasn't/ been > appealed? Sounds like a case for the new zenit

Re: DIS: RE: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2090 assigned to ais523

2008-07-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Alexander Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Taral wrote: >>> I support. With two support (root, Zefram) I appeal the judgement of CFJ >>> 2090. >> Just out of interest, have I ever made a jud

Re: DIS: CotC site update

2008-07-23 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It also seems to list any equity case as "case open", which I imagine >> has something to do with there not being a fixed set of available >> judgments. > > Although oddly 1932 displays the judgment as "

DIS: RE: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5640-5648

2008-07-23 Thread Alexander Smith
Goethe wrote: > R683 strongly implies that a vote is valid if it is among the first N where > N<= the voting limit when the vote is submitted. This points to a dangerous > break in the rule allowing democratization during the voting period, in that > Ordinary votes cast before the democratizatio

DIS: RE: AAA - Secretary of Agriculture Report

2008-07-23 Thread Alexander Smith
BobTHJ wrote: > CROPS & VOUCHERS > FARMER 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 X WRV > (snip) > ais523 14 2 1 5 I mill 8+9=6. I deposit one WRV in the RBoA. (I think this gains me 175 Chits.) I withdraw thr

Re: DIS: CotC site update

2008-07-23 Thread comex
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fixed. (The current-judgement logic is "maximum event_id where the > decision is not AFFIRM"; for equations, the decision_id is null. I > tweaked it to use "maximum event_id, period" for the "case open" > check. 1932 was dif

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Vote Market proposal: Facebook (ii)

2008-07-23 Thread David Nicol
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:33 PM, David Nicol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Phooey. I so want to define "rounds of applause" as a currency, right >> alongside http://tipjar.com/2008i/tipjarium.html";> tipjarium >> which is in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Vote Market proposal: Facebook (ii)

2008-07-23 Thread Taral
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:39 PM, David Nicol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > just don't clear your cookie file. The cookie will persist until 2038 > or something. Unless, like me, your cookies are automatically forced to be session cookies. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there