DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2196a assigned to woggle, root, Taral

2008-10-16 Thread Taral
Um... oops? Did this get done? On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2196a Appeal 2196a Panelist: woggle Decision:

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2196a assigned to woggle, root, Taral

2008-10-16 Thread Ed Murphy
Taral wrote: Um... oops? Did this get done? On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2196a Appeal 2196a woggle intended to REMAND, root has

DIS: Re: I love Rule 2198 (Re: BUS: Equity)

2008-10-16 Thread Elliott Hird
On 16 Oct 2008, at 15:28, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:35 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, you can't. With the agreement of the other members of Bayes, I intend to cause Wooble to cease to

DIS: Re: BUS: The UNDAD

2008-10-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 8:06 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kyle is hereby defined as a non-registered entity on whose behalf I can act by announcement. Kyle degregisters. You're the only such entity. This probably succeeds in establishing Kyle as a nickname for yourself and binding you to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The UNDAD

2008-10-16 Thread Sgeo
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 8:06 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kyle is hereby defined as a non-registered entity on whose behalf I can act by announcement. Kyle degregisters. You're the only such entity. This probably

DIS: Re: BUS: Since nominating people for offices is all the rage...

2008-10-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:58 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I nominate The Law-abiding Partnership, Quazie, and ihope for Assessor. Quazie and ihope aren't active players; both of their noms fail.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The UNDAD

2008-10-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Sgeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't there a CFJ about this? CFJ 2177 held that Mr. Elbow was not a nickname for Ivan Hope because it was defined as a player on whose behalf e could act by announcement, and there were 2 such players, causing ambiguity. In this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The UNDAD

2008-10-16 Thread ihope
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 8:06 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kyle is hereby defined as a non-registered entity on whose behalf I can act by announcement. Kyle degregisters. You're the only such entity. This probably

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2219 assigned to root

2008-10-16 Thread Elliott Hird
On 16 Oct 2008, at 07:01, Ian Kelly wrote: There's not enough context here. The fact that RFC 2 was created via RFC 1 demonstrates that the rules were at least somewhat amendable, not that they are. Would the initiator please provide the text of RFC 1 and whatever rules were in effect at the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The UNDAD

2008-10-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Sgeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was referring to the contract stuff, actually. I remember discussion here about some CFJ regarding contracts that claim that doing something means you agree to the contract.. I doubt that applies when the doing something is in a

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Left in a Huff

2008-10-16 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: (f) Left in a Huff, to be awarded by the Clerk of the Courts or the Registrar (whichever one gets around to it first) to any player who deregistered in a Writ of FAGE. So everyone who so deregistered now has to have this title awarded again? And then

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The UNDAD

2008-10-16 Thread Sgeo
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Sgeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't there a CFJ about this? CFJ 2177 held that Mr. Elbow was not a nickname for Ivan Hope because it was defined as a player on whose behalf e could act

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5765-5778

2008-10-16 Thread Ed Murphy
Taral wrote: 5765 O 1 1.0 Wooble none FORx5 Your caste is Delta (2).

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar]

2008-10-16 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, ais523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tue 7 Oct 22:19:33 oklopol registers (disputed, since ratified). Tue 7 Oct 23:21:15 the Monster registers (disputed, since ratified). CoE: neither of these ratified; Ivan Hope was not a Player at the time e

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar]

2008-10-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this is about Ivan Hope publishing a Cantus Cygneus (albeit quoting BobTHJ's rather than writing eir own), then e doesn't get deregistered until the CotC carries out eir part of the procedure (which I have not, and don't

DIS: Re: BUS: Informs

2008-10-16 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: I hereby ban from judging this case the only player with the most recent registration who is not a member of the alleged contract whose existence is not confirmed by this message. I'm interpreting this as referring to the People's Bank of Agora.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar]

2008-10-16 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this is about Ivan Hope publishing a Cantus Cygneus (albeit quoting BobTHJ's rather than writing eir own), then e doesn't get deregistered until the CotC carries out eir part of the procedure (which I have

DIS: Proto-Contest: Nomic Wars

2008-10-16 Thread Roger Hicks
NOTE: These could probably stand to be ordered a little better, and/or have their scores adjusted before starting. Are there any major gaps I am missing? { 1. (Score=5, Owner=null) Any player CAN join this contract by announcement. 2. (Score=5, Owner=null) Any party to this contract CAN act on

Re: DIS: Proto-Contest: Nomic Wars

2008-10-16 Thread Sgeo
4. (Score=5, Owner=null) Thrice each week, each party CAN increment or decrement the score of a section of this contract by 1. 6. (Score=5, Owner=null) Once each week each party CAN add a new section to this contract When a section is added its Owner is set to the party who directly added

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar]

2008-10-16 Thread Elliott Hird
On 16 Oct 2008, at 16:38, Ed Murphy wrote: Wooble wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, ais523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tue 7 Oct 22:19:33 oklopol registers (disputed, since ratified). Tue 7 Oct 23:21:15 the Monster registers (disputed, since ratified). CoE: neither of these

Re: DIS: Proto-Contest: Nomic Wars

2008-10-16 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: 1. (Score=5, Owner=null) Any player CAN join this contract by announcement. Score is used by the rules. Granted, for a different set of entities, but I still recommend changing this to rating or something else. 9. (Score=5, Owner=null) Among equally scored sections, sections

Re: DIS: Proto-Contest: Nomic Wars

2008-10-16 Thread ihope
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. (Score=5, Owner=null) Thrice each week, each party CAN increment or decrement the score of a section of this contract by 1. 6. (Score=5, Owner=null) Once each week each party CAN add a new section to this contract 14.

Re: DIS: Proto-Contest: Nomic Wars

2008-10-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. (Score=5, Owner=null) Any player CAN join this contract by announcement. This is a little weird in that the effect of nullifying it would be to allow any person to join (via R2198) instead of any player. -root

Re: DIS: Proto-Contest: Nomic Wars

2008-10-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:16 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. (Score=5, Owner=null) Thrice each week, each party CAN increment or decrement the score of a section of this contract by 1. 6. (Score=5, Owner=null) Once

Re: DIS: Proto-Contest: Nomic Wars

2008-10-16 Thread ihope
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:16 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. (Score=5, Owner=null) Thrice each week, each party CAN increment or decrement the score

Re: DIS: Proto-Contest: Nomic Wars

2008-10-16 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:16 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. (Score=5, Owner=null) Thrice each week, each party CAN increment or decrement the score of a section of this contract by 1. 6. (Score=5,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5765-5778

2008-10-16 Thread Taral
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your caste is Delta (2). Right. Darn it. :/ -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: I love Rule 2198 (Re: BUS: Equity)

2008-10-16 Thread Taral
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:32 AM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ahem, Dvorak? You don't need eir consent to remove em, do you? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

DIS: RBOA

2008-10-16 Thread Taral
What are the current RBOA assets/rates? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Proto-Contest: Nomic Wars

2008-10-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:25 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So create a section, increment its Score twice, and use it to repeal all other Sections. True. Also, a conspiracy of 3 could trivially create a section and increment its Score all the way to 7. Probably the best fix is to make

Re: DIS: RBOA

2008-10-16 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:58, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the current RBOA assets/rates? -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown Unofficially: CHITS (* = Banker) The AFO

Re: DIS: RBOA

2008-10-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unofficially: CHITS (* = Banker) I assume this doesn't include Murphy's most recently deposit since e's shown with fewer chits than e would have gained from that one transaction. Other than that, how up to date is this?

Re: DIS: RBOA

2008-10-16 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 13:10, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unofficially: CHITS (* = Banker) I assume this doesn't include Murphy's most recently deposit since e's shown with fewer chits than e would have

DIS: Re: BUS: Contract: Nomic Wars

2008-10-16 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: 18. (Rating=4, Owner=null) At the end of each week, the contestmaster CAN and SHALL award points to each party equal to eir Presence. This should be As soon as possible after the end of each week, the contestmaster SHALL award points to each party equal to eir Presence at the end

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contract: Nomic Wars

2008-10-16 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 13:39, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BobTHJ wrote: 18. (Rating=4, Owner=null) At the end of each week, the contestmaster CAN and SHALL award points to each party equal to eir Presence. This should be As soon as possible after the end of each week, the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contract: Nomic Wars

2008-10-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 13:39, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BobTHJ wrote: 18. (Rating=4, Owner=null) At the end of each week, the contestmaster CAN and SHALL award points to each party equal to eir Presence. This

DIS: Re: BUS: Contract: Nomic Wars

2008-10-16 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: 9. (Rating=8, Owner=null) Thrice each week, each party CAN increment or decrement the Rating of a section of this contract by 1. There should be a section along the lines of If this contract says that an action CAN be performed, then the method is by announcement unless otherwise

DIS: Re: BUS: Contract: Nomic Wars

2008-10-16 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 13:52, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I create a new section reading Murphy CAN make emself the owner of any section, and other parties SHALL NOT act to change the ownership of a section that Murphy owns. I increment the rating of this section by 1, twice. This

DIS: Re: BUS: Contract: Nomic Wars

2008-10-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I create a new section reading Murphy CAN make emself the owner of any section, and other parties SHALL NOT act to change the ownership of a section that Murphy owns. I increment the rating of this section by 1, twice. This

DIS: Re: BUS: Contract: Nomic Wars

2008-10-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I make myself the owner of section 24 (root's section quoted above). Fails, per section 8. Actually, this probably succeeded for section 24, but failed for all the others. -root

Re: DIS: RBOA

2008-10-16 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 14:56, Pavitra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 16 October 2008 02:03:59 pm Roger Hicks wrote: Unofficially: CHITS (* = Banker) Pavitra 4528 Chits I'm a Banker. Pavitra Indeed. I'll fix that. BobTHJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2219 assigned to root

2008-10-16 Thread Pavitra
On Thursday 16 October 2008 11:21:16 am Ed Murphy wrote: I object to flipping Nomic 217's Recognition. I will withdraw this objection if someone points out subsequent RFCs causing Nomic 217 to meet the Agoran definition. Arguably, RFC 2: {When interpreting and applying the rules, the general

DIS: Re: BUS: Banking

2008-10-16 Thread Elliott Hird
On 16 Oct 2008, at 22:45, Pavitra wrote: I deposit one crop each of the digits 1, 4, 8, and 9 with the PBA. I deposit 1 2 Crop with the RBoA. I withdraw 1 VP from the RBoA and deposit it with the PBA. ☭ Comrade Pavrita Thanks! You have 111 coins. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A case of problematic precedence

2008-10-16 Thread Charles Reiss
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 17:08, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 17:56, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I join Nomic Wars I. I add the following section to Nomic Wars I: { Sections with lower Ratings take precedence over sections with higher Ratings; Sections of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A case of problematic precedence

2008-10-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Charles Reiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 17:08, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 17:56, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I join Nomic Wars I. I add the following section to Nomic Wars I: { Sections with lower

DIS: Re: BUS: Bayes

2008-10-16 Thread Dvorak Herring
Am I still a member of the Bayes Contract? What do I need to do to leave the Bayes contract? -- Dvorak Herring

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bayes

2008-10-16 Thread Elliott Hird
On 17/10/2008, Dvorak Herring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I still a member of the Bayes Contract? What do I need to do to leave the Bayes contract? -- Dvorak Herring Consent to your parting, I think.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bayes

2008-10-16 Thread comex
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I need to do to leave the Bayes contract? Consent to your parting, I think. And Wooble's.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bayes

2008-10-16 Thread Elliott Hird
On 17/10/2008, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I need to do to leave the Bayes contract? Consent to your parting, I think. And Wooble's. After e leaves eir consent is unneeded.

DIS: Re: BUS: Bayes

2008-10-16 Thread Dvorak Herring
I consent to any member's removal from the Baye's contract, including my own. -- Dvorak Herring