2009/5/2 comex :
> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Benjamin Caplan
> wrote:
>> comex wrote:
>>> Repeats: (a nonnegative integer, or infinity; default 1)
>> [...]
>>> An Offer with zero Repeats is automatically destroyed.
>> As was pointed out on IRC, this won't ever happen. Try "When an Offer
On May 2, 2009, at 12:48 AM, Sgeo wrote:
Any thoughts on testing any plans? Either for real, by telling /b/
about Agora, or simulation (let several players control 1,000
first-class players, and a way to guard against the fallout when the
simulation ends).
Telling /b/ about agora should lea
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Sgeo wrote:
> Any thoughts on testing any plans? Either for real, by telling /b/
> about Agora, or simulation (let several players control 1,000
> first-class players, and a way to guard against the fallout when the
> simulation ends).
Considering there's no way A
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 19:43 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote:
> This allows someone planning a time-sensitive scam to submit a proposal
> without revealing it to Agora. I know of at least one scam that can only
> be done at the rollover of an Agoran Week, so distributing the scam
> /just/ prior and having th
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 21:21 -0500, Benjamin Caplan wrote:
> Aaron Goldfein wrote:
> > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> >> There are two separate methods by
> >> which the Agoran Senate can recover Agora from an invasion by reducing
> >> every invader's voting limit to 0. Once thi
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 20:16 -0400, comex wrote:
> Note: Please do not cast a vote like ISELL(8 zm - AGAINST)*8, as this
> won't do what you think.
For the benefit of players too new to remember it: the last time someone
tried a vote like that, it caused a row lasting almost a month before
anyone fi
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 21:03 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote:
> Yes, but an Ordinary proposal has sufficient power to exile anyone (the
> more I think of it, the more I come to think that this hole should be
> seriously considered a bug and fixed. I shouldn't have the ability to
> exile every other player in
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 20:19 -0400, Sgeo wrote:
> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> > Zing! Vext cwm fly jabs Kurd qoph
>
> Will we all get to learn what the Clues were?
The Secret Answer no longer exists (now the Medal's been given away), so
the restriction on revealing informat
2009/5/2 Sgeo :
> Any thoughts on testing any plans? Either for real, by telling /b/
> about Agora, or simulation (let several players control 1,000
> first-class players, and a way to guard against the fallout when the
> simulation ends).
Sgeo and Anonymous
-in-
"/B/ NOMIC"
#1 Sgeo!SgEo$ter 20
Sean Hunt wrote:
> Benjamin Caplan wrote:
>> [These estimates assume that the PNP's report on April 20 was correct,
>> and that the only changes to that state between then and the beginning
>> of this message were the automatic adjustments on April 27.]
>>
>>
>> Pavitra
>>
> I don't believe they
Alex Smith wrote:
> Maybe we could tinker with the MwoP powers a bit? The one common theme
> between them is that they're all useful in preventing invasions, and as
> far as I know this is deliberate. Maybe we could make it so a conspiracy
> between all 5 MwoPs can block any proposal during an Emer
On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 10:45 -0500, Benjamin Caplan wrote:
> Alex Smith wrote:
> Proto-proto, ai=3: The Speaker CAN act on behalf of any person with the
> unanimous Support of all Ministers without Portfolio. The Speaker and
> Ministers without Portfolio SHOULD and SHALL only use this power in good
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Alex Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 20:19 -0400, Sgeo wrote:
>> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>> > Zing! Vext cwm fly jabs Kurd qoph
>>
>> Will we all get to learn what the Clues were?
>
> The Secret Answer no longer exists (now the Medal's
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 17:43 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
> == CFJ 2477 ==
>
> coppro has won the game at least once.
>
>
I judge this TRUE. It's a pretty clear bug in
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 17:43 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> == CFJ 2477 ==
>>
>> coppro has won the game at least once.
>>
>> ===
On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 09:39 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
> [Summary: Each active non-scamster gets a bogus Rest, then the
> scamsters take turns being the sole active Rest-free player for
> Win by Solitude, then the bogus Rests are destroyed.]
Because scams involving the judicial system are often seen
2009/5/2 Aaron Goldfein :
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Aaron Goldfein
> wrote:
>> I intend, with two support, to make proposal 6235 (The Janitor) democratic.
>>
>
> If you voted FOR this please support or the proposal will not pass due
> to Wooble (a high caste player) voting against it.
>
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn
wrote:
> 2009/5/2 Aaron Goldfein :
>> I intend, with two support, to make democratic Proposal 6250
>> (Reworking the Anarchist).
>>
> I support.
>
> --
> -Tiger
>
Wooble also voted against this and this will too fail if nobody else supports.
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
> Amend Rule 402 (Identity of the Speaker) by adding the following to
> the end of the first paragraph:
>
> As soon as possible after the Speaker changes, the Herald SHALL
Suggest "identity of the Speaker changes".
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Elliott Hird
wrote:
> 2009/5/2 Sgeo :
>> Any thoughts on testing any plans? Either for real, by telling /b/
>> about Agora, or simulation (let several players control 1,000
>> first-class players, and a way to guard against the fallout when the
>> simulation ends).
Any thoughts on making an in-Agora simulation?
Sgeo wrote:
> Any thoughts on making an in-Agora simulation?
Proto-proto: Operation Blackbeard
Upon the adoption of this proposal, a nomic is created with the same
gamestate as this one, except:
* Each instance of "Agora" in a rule or contract changed to a new name
* Publicity switches fl
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 18:16, comex wrote:
> The PBA, RBoA, and both Vote Markets are dead, which has made the
> economy a lot less interesting. This is a draft for a replacement,
> which allows regular banking, trade offers, and vote selling. Rates
> are manually set by the President (me) witho
2009/5/2 Roger Hicks :
> I think the hyper-inflation of the PBA proved auto-rates are not the
> end-all be-all that ehird claimed they were.
You weren't there for it, so I'll assume you didn't know that the
whole economy stopped and, therefore, since nobody used the bank - duh
- of course it went
2009/5/2 Ed Murphy :
> [Summary: Each active non-scamster gets a bogus Rest, then the
> scamsters take turns being the sole active Rest-free player for
> Win by Solitude, then the bogus Rests are destroyed.]
>
> ais523, comex, and coppro have agreed to a private contract allowing
> me to act on th
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:52 AM, comex wrote:
> I CFJ on the statement:
> * It is ILLEGAL to grant certain powers (in the ordinary-language
> sense) and privileges to Agora's ambassador if one is not a nomic.
Clever. MAY vs may?
--
Taral
"Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can
On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 22:32 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
> Can someone explain why e doesn't need a lot of support to do this? I
> don't see how the first one is not a "valid, un-closed NoV published
> by the same player earlier that week" as per R2230. Though there has
> to be something as surely
2009/5/2 Taral :
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:52 AM, comex wrote:
>> I CFJ on the statement:
>> * It is ILLEGAL to grant certain powers (in the ordinary-language
>> sense) and privileges to Agora's ambassador if one is not a nomic.
>
> Clever. MAY vs may?
>
I'd say it's not ILLEGAL since it's not M
> I nominate Yally for CotC.
I respectfully decline.
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Taral wrote:
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:52 AM, comex wrote:
>> I CFJ on the statement:
>> * It is ILLEGAL to grant certain powers (in the ordinary-language
>> sense) and privileges to Agora's ambassador if one is not a nomic.
>
> Clever. MAY vs may?
Well, if may
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
>> It's possible to publish an NoV by sending it to a public forum, no
>> matter what lower-power rules think on the matter. Rules 101 and 478,
>> both power-3, give us the right of participation in the fora. And
>> publishing NoVs is certainly
2009/5/2 Geoffrey Spear :
> I destroy all of the Ribbons in the possession of Murphy, ais523,
> coppro, and comex.
>
Dick.
Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> I destroy all of the Ribbons in the possession of Murphy, ais523,
> coppro, and comex.
IMPOSSIBLE.
2009/5/2 Sean Hunt :
> Geoffrey Spear wrote:
>> I destroy all of the Ribbons in the possession of Murphy, ais523,
>> coppro, and comex.
> IMPOSSIBLE.
>
How?
--
-Tiger
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> I destroy all of the Ribbons in the possession of Murphy, ais523,
> coppro, and comex.
Fails: these assets are not owned by the Lost and Found Department.
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Elliott Hird
wrote:
> Add auto rates and I'm sold.
I'm explicitly not including auto rates in this. I actually think the
PBA did pretty well, but my highest priority is preventing scams-- a
bank should be a trustworthy place to invest your assets. Most normal
tr
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Benjamin Caplan
wrote:
> Geoffrey Spear wrote:
>> I destroy all of the Ribbons in the possession of Murphy, ais523,
>> coppro, and comex.
>
> That was unnecessarily vengeful, and (unlike the scam's CotC abuse)
> difficult to reverse. I nominate Murphy, ais523, coppr
Sgeo wrote:
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Benjamin Caplan
> wrote:
>> Geoffrey Spear wrote:
>>> I destroy all of the Ribbons in the possession of Murphy, ais523,
>>> coppro, and comex.
>>
>> That was unnecessarily vengeful, and (unlike the scam's CotC abuse)
>> difficult to reverse. I nominate
Aaron Goldfein wrote:
> I CFJ on the following sentence. ais523, Murphy, and coppro won the
> game on 02 May, 2009.
Gratuitous arguments: at the time, I was an active first-class player
with no Rests.
Pavitra
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On 5/2/09 3:09 PM, comex wrote:
> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Elliott Hird
> wrote:
>
>> Add auto rates and I'm sold.
>>
> I'm explicitly not including auto rates in this. I actually think the
> PBA did pretty well, but my highest priority is preventing scams-- a
> bank should be a t
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Charles Reiss wrote:
> Also, I rather dislike
> the bias here towards currencies denominated in large units. How about a
> little less such bias, like:
I thought about having it depending on zm but this system is already
relatively annoying, as you have to remember
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> I destroy all of the Ribbons in the possession of Murphy, ais523,
> coppro, and comex.
>
Umm... what gives you the power to do that?
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Benjamin Caplan
wrote:
> Geoffrey Spear wrote:
>> I destroy all of the Ribbons in the possession of Murphy, ais523,
>> coppro, and comex.
>
> That was unnecessarily vengeful, and (unlike the scam's CotC abuse)
> difficult to reverse. I nominate Murphy, ais523, coppr
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Alex Smith wrote:
>> On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 18:08 +0100, Alex Smith wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 17:43 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
>>> > == CFJ 2477 ==
>>>
Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Alex Smith wrote:
>> On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 18:08 +0100, Alex Smith wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 17:43 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
== CFJ 2477 ==
coppro has won the game
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:54 AM, comex wrote:
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Aaron Goldfein
> wrote:
>> Amend Rule 402 (Identity of the Speaker) by adding the following to
>> the end of the first paragraph:
>>
>> As soon as possible after the Speaker changes, the Herald SHALL
>
> Suggest
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> According to my understanding of the situation, ais523 needs to be
> awarded MwoP for eir win by High Score; once that is done, I'll work out
> who the MwoPs are.
That was done by deputisation on April 6. The current MwoPs are
comex, OscarMeyr,
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
>> According to my understanding of the situation, ais523 needs to be
>> awarded MwoP for eir win by High Score; once that is done, I'll work out
>> who the MwoPs are.
>
> That was done by deputisa
Aaron Goldfein wrote:
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>> I award the patent title of Champion to root.
>> I award the patent title of Minister Without Portfolio to root.
>> I award the patent title of Champion to coppro.
>> I award the patent title of Minister Without Portfolio
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Benjamin Caplan
wrote:
> Aaron Goldfein wrote:
>> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>>> I award the patent title of Champion to root.
>>> I award the patent title of Minister Without Portfolio to root.
>>> I award the patent title of Champion to cop
Wooble wrote:
> I destroy all of the Ribbons in the possession of Murphy, ais523,
> coppro, and comex.
How? Rule 2166 (Assets) only lets you destroy Ribbons owned by the
Lost and Found Department.
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Benjamin Caplan
wrote:
> Aaron Goldfein wrote:
>> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>>> I award the patent title of Champion to root.
>>> I award the patent title of Minister Without Portfolio to root.
>>> I award the patent title of Champion to co
On Sat, 2 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 22:32 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
>> Can someone explain why e doesn't need a lot of support to do this? I
>> don't see how the first one is not a "valid, un-closed NoV published
>> by the same player earlier that week" as per R2230.
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