DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2480 assigned to Taral

2009-05-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/12 Taral : > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> = Criminal Case 2480 = >> >>ais523 violated Rule 2230 (Notices of Violation), committing the >>Class-4 Crime of Libel, twenty times by publishing the Notices >>of

DIS: Re: [s-b] Simplify Massively

2009-05-12 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 20:17 +0100, Charles Walker wrote: > THIS MESSAGE IS CLEARLY INTENDED TO BE PUBLIC. > HEIL ERIS! > > I submit the following proposal: > > {{ > > (AI = 3), (II = 3) > > Enact the entire ruleset found at , and flip the ID > number, title, power and text o

Re: DIS: Re: [s-b] Simplify Massively

2009-05-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/12 Alex Smith : > On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 20:17 +0100, Charles Walker wrote: >> THIS MESSAGE IS CLEARLY INTENDED TO BE PUBLIC. >> HEIL ERIS! >> >> I submit the following proposal: >> >> {{ >> >> (AI = 3), (II = 3) >> >> Enact the entire ruleset found at , and flip the ID >>

Re: DIS: Re: [s-b] Simplify Massively

2009-05-12 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/5/12 Jonatan Kilhamn : > It would truly be awesome if Michael Norris swooped in and assigned > prerogatives. Michael Norris' proposals cure cancer. Too bad he never writes a proposal.

DIS: Re: BUS: [Scam] Excess objections considered helpful

2009-05-12 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/5/12 Geoffrey Spear : > I withdraw my objection to the creation of a Medal in the possession > of Nomic Wars III. > > I act on behalf of ais523 to withdraw eir objection to the creation of > a Medal in the possession of Nomic Wars III. Hmm. I'm pretty sure I thought of this scam many moons ag

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Scam] Excess objections considered helpful

2009-05-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Elliott Hird wrote: > Hmm. I'm pretty sure I thought of this scam many moons ago; I seem to > recall discussing it with ais523. My original objection (and I believe ais523's as well) was actually intended as a non-scam block of the obvious trivial win. When only

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2480 assigned to Taral

2009-05-12 Thread Ed Murphy
Tiger wrote: > Does this give em 4 rests or 4*20 rests? It was intended to limit eir potential sentence to 4 (and to block separate NoVs due to double jeopardy). Rule 2230 and/or 1504 should probably be patched to deal with this.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Patch objections

2009-05-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >      The above notwithstanding, if the action depends on objections, >      and an objection to it has been withdrawn within the past 24 >      hours, then Agora is not Satisfied with the intent. This makes it possible for a single Objector to

DIS: Fwd: [aerican] Ruling Earth: Part 1 of 2

2009-05-12 Thread comex
I suggest "H. Michael Norrish". Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Nathan Maron Date: May 12, 2009 7:37:41 AM EDT To: Subject: [aerican] Ruling Earth: Part 1 of 2 Reply-To: aeri...@yahoogroups.com I'd like to thank everyone who has supported the creation of a new gove

DIS: Re: BUS: [Scam] Excess objections considered helpful

2009-05-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/12 Geoffrey Spear : > [...] > I perform the Battle Action (destroying 2 Maneuvers in my possession) > of creating a new War-rule with the following text: {{The > contestmaster SHALL cause Nomic Wars III to transfer a Medal to Wooble > unless e has already done so.}} > > I perform the Battle

DIS: Re: BUS: Nomic Wars - Contest

2009-05-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/12 Jonatan Kilhamn : > 2009/5/5 Roger Hicks : >> [...] >> >> 5. (Rating=7, Owner=null) A party CAN perform a Battle Action by >> destroying a number of Maneuvers in eir possession equal to the cost >> of that action (default cost 1 if unspecified). >> >> 6. (Rating=7, Owner=null) Rights and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Nomic Wars - Contest

2009-05-12 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 19:36 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > Well, I failed due to BobTHJ timing to create maneuvers exactly when I > was eating dinner, but I think my scam is much better since it doesn't > depend on bribing another player and the contestmaster. If it worked, > that is. If it worked

DIS: Re: BUS: Nomic Wars - Contest

2009-05-12 Thread Roger Hicks
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:32, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > 2009/5/5 Roger Hicks : >> [...] >> >> 5. (Rating=7, Owner=null) A party CAN perform a Battle Action by >> destroying a number of Maneuvers in eir possession equal to the cost >> of that action (default cost 1 if unspecified). >> >> 6. (Rating

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Nomic Wars - Contest

2009-05-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/12 Roger Hicks : > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:32, Jonatan Kilhamn > wrote: >> 2009/5/5 Roger Hicks : >>> [...] >>> >>> 5. (Rating=7, Owner=null) A party CAN perform a Battle Action by >>> destroying a number of Maneuvers in eir possession equal to the cost >>> of that action (default cost 1

DIS: Re: BUS: win announcement

2009-05-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:12 PM, comex wrote: > This is a Win Announcement: Wooble has a Medal. I don't mind winning twice; I just wasn't 100% convinced I actually have a medal.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: win announcement

2009-05-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/12 Geoffrey Spear : > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:12 PM, comex wrote: >> This is a Win Announcement: Wooble has a Medal. > > I don't mind winning twice; I just wasn't 100% convinced I actually > have a medal. > Couldn't the medal one have waited? Now I have to talk BobTHJ into giving me point

DIS: Proto: Senators

2009-05-12 Thread Charles Walker
Proto: (AI = 2) In the rule "The Senate" replace A Senator is any first-class player who has been registered continuously for the immediately preceding sixty days. with A Senator is a first-class player who meets one or more of the following criteria: 1) They have been continuously registered

DIS: Re: BUS: [DM] (i)nventory

2009-05-12 Thread Sean Hunt
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Quazie wrote: > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> Quazie: >>  a - 2 scrolls labeled YOYO TWO > I read both of these >>  b - a scroll labeled EMAG EHT TIW UOY >>  c - a scroll labeled STRAWBERRY FIELD >>  d - a scroll labeled A B NSCROLL > I rea

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Conductor] Lead Sheet

2009-05-12 Thread Sean Hunt
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > 2009/5/12 Aaron Goldfein : >> >> >> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM, comex wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn >>> wrote: >>> >                          C#    D#       F#    G#    A# >>> > Player              

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Conductor] Lead Sheet

2009-05-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/12 Sean Hunt : > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn > wrote: >> 2009/5/12 Aaron Goldfein : >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM, comex wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: >                          C#    D#       F#    G

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Conductor] Lead Sheet

2009-05-12 Thread Roger Hicks
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 13:23, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn > wrote: >> 2009/5/12 Aaron Goldfein : >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM, comex wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: >                    

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [DM] (i)nventory

2009-05-12 Thread Quazie
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Quazie wrote: >> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> Quazie: >>>  a - 2 scrolls labeled YOYO TWO >> I read both of these >>>  b - a scroll labeled EMAG EHT TIW UOY >>>  c - a scroll labeled ST

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2480 assigned to Taral

2009-05-12 Thread Sean Hunt
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Tiger wrote: > >> Does this give em 4 rests or 4*20 rests? > > It was intended to limit eir potential sentence to 4 (and to block > separate NoVs due to double jeopardy).  Rule 2230 and/or 1504 should > probably be patched to deal with this. > A

DIS: The insulator validating NoVs

2009-05-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
According to the rules, the Insulator SHALL announce whether an NoV is valid or not. Does e do this? I don't think I've seen em do it. -- -Tiger

Re: DIS: The insulator validating NoVs

2009-05-12 Thread Sean Hunt
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > According to the rules, the Insulator SHALL announce whether an NoV is > valid or not. Does e do this? I don't think I've seen em do it. > > -- > -Tiger > Murphy recently resigned the position; BobTHJ only recently took over. I belive forg

Re: DIS: The insulator validating NoVs

2009-05-12 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 21:46 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > According to the rules, the Insulator SHALL announce whether an NoV is > valid or not. Does e do this? I don't think I've seen em do it. The last time the issue came up, nobody else had seen em do it either, but it turned out Murphy had b

Re: DIS: The insulator validating NoVs

2009-05-12 Thread comex
It's in eir report. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: According to the rules, the Insulator SHALL announce whether an NoV is valid or not. Does e do this? I don't think I've seen em do it. -- -Tiger

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2480 assigned to Taral

2009-05-12 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 12 May 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Tiger wrote: >> >>> Does this give em 4 rests or 4*20 rests? >> >> It was intended to limit eir potential sentence to 4 (and to block >> separate NoVs due to double jeopardy).  Rule 2230 and/or 1504 shoul

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2480 assigned to Taral

2009-05-12 Thread Sean Hunt
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 00:20 -0700, Taral wrote: >> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> > =  Criminal Case 2480  = >> > >> >    ais523 violated Rule 2230 (Notices of Violation), co

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2480 assigned to Taral

2009-05-12 Thread Sean Hunt
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Alex Smith wrote: >> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 00:20 -0700, Taral wrote: >>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >>> > =  Criminal Case 2480  = >>> > >>>

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2516 assigned to coppro

2009-05-12 Thread Sean Hunt
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2516 > > ==  CFJ 2516  == > >    Flipping the contestmaster of a contract to Human Point Two >    would fail > > ===

Fwd: DIS: Proto: Senators

2009-05-12 Thread Charles Walker
I don't think this worked first time round, so: -- Forwarded message -- From: Charles Walker Date: Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:47 PM Subject: DIS: Proto: Senators To: agora-discussion Proto: (AI = 2) In the rule "The Senate" replace A Senator is any first-class player who has bee

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2501 assigned to coppro

2009-05-12 Thread Sean Hunt
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2501 > > ==  CFJ 2501  == > >    "As soon as possible" means "within 168 hours". > > ===

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2516 assigned to coppro

2009-05-12 Thread Quazie
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2516 >> >> ==  CFJ 2516  == >> >>    Flipping the contestmaster of a contract

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2480 assigned to Taral

2009-05-12 Thread Taral
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > Does this give em 4 rests or 4*20 rests? Not 4*20. I dealt with that question in a previous CFJ. -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2480 assigned to Taral

2009-05-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/12 Taral : > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn > wrote: >> Does this give em 4 rests or 4*20 rests? > > Not 4*20. I dealt with that question in a previous CFJ. > > -- > Taral > "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." >    -- Unknown > All's well t

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2480 assigned to Taral

2009-05-12 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 13:18 -0700, Taral wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > > I appeal the question on culpability. At the time, I was aware of the > > Libel rule, but nonetheless believed I was not breaking it. (Yes, it was > > a deliberate attempt to scam the wording o

Re: DIS: The insulator validating NoVs

2009-05-12 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn > wrote: >> According to the rules, the Insulator SHALL announce whether an NoV is >> valid or not. Does e do this? I don't think I've seen em do it. >> >> -- >> -Tiger >> > > Murphy recently resigned the position; BobTHJ only rece

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2480 assigned to Taral

2009-05-12 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Alex Smith wrote: >> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 00:20 -0700, Taral wrote: >>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: = Criminal Case 2480 = ais523 violated Rule 2230 (Notice

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2516 assigned to coppro

2009-05-12 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2516 >> >> == CFJ 2516 == >> >>Flipping the contestmaster of a contract to Human Point Two >>would fail

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2482 remanded to ais523 by Goethe (AFFIRM), Pavitra (AFFIRM), Wooble (REASSIGN), coppro (REASSIGN)

2009-05-12 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Goethe moves to AFFIRM:                 05 May 2009 00:38:55 GMT > Pavitra moves to AFFIRM:                05 May 2009 04:35:03 GMT > Wooble moves to REASSIGN:               05 May 2009 12:41:41 GMT > coppro moves to REASSIGN:               11 Ma

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2482 remanded to ais523 by Goethe (AFFIRM), Pavitra (AFFIRM), Wooble (REASSIGN), coppro (REASSIGN)

2009-05-12 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Goethe moves to AFFIRM: 05 May 2009 00:38:55 GMT >> Pavitra moves to AFFIRM:05 May 2009 04:35:03 GMT >> Wooble moves to REASSIGN: 05 May 2009 12:41:41 GMT >> coppro moves to REASSIGN:

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2516 assigned to coppro

2009-05-12 Thread Sean Hunt
Quazie wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >>> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2516 >>> >>> == CFJ 2516 == >>> >>>Flipping the contes

DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Resolving the Promotor Election

2009-05-12 Thread Sean Hunt
Aaron Goldfein wrote: > I resolve the election for Promotor as Wooble is the only candidate. E > is installed. Oops. I nominate myself as Promotor.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2482 remanded to ais523 by Goethe (AFFIRM), Pavitra (AFFIRM), Wooble (REASSIGN), coppro (REASSIGN)

2009-05-12 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > As noted previously, REMAND is as reasonable a way to punt as any > if the panel fails to produce a majority decision. This assumes one subscribes to the theory that punting is reasonable to begin with. -root

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2485 assigned to OscarMeyr

2009-05-12 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On May 12, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2485 == Equity Case 2485 == The Lender has not been keeping track of Debt and Credit for the Agoran Loan Service. ==

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2485 assigned to OscarMeyr

2009-05-12 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 18:27 -0400, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > On May 12, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > > > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2485 > > > > == Equity Case 2485 > > == > > > > The Lender has not been

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2485 assigned to OscarMeyr

2009-05-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > On May 12, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > >> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2485 >> >> ==  Equity Case 2485  == >> >>    The Lender has not been keeping track

DIS: Re: BUS: [Cookie Jar] Report

2009-05-12 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: > > I guess 15 proposals and 15 CFJs. > > > Because OscarMeyr stepped on my guess... I retract my previous guess and > guess 13 proposals and 17 CFJs. Can't, it's only once per week. A

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2516 assigned to coppro

2009-05-12 Thread Quazie
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: >> coppro wrote: >> >>> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2516 ==  CFJ 2516  == >>>

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2482 remanded to ais523 by Goethe (AFFIRM), Pavitra (AFFIRM), Wooble (REASSIGN), coppro (REASSIGN)

2009-05-12 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 12 May 2009, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> As noted previously, REMAND is as reasonable a way to punt as any >> if the panel fails to produce a majority decision. > > This assumes one subscribes to the theory that punting is reasonable > to begin

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2516 assigned to coppro

2009-05-12 Thread Sean Hunt
Quazie wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> Ed Murphy wrote: >>> coppro wrote: >>> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2516 > > == CFJ 2516 ===

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-12 Thread Taral
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > Proposal: Legislative Dominance (AI = 2) Time to bring back the "no bribes" clause? -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-12 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Taral wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: > > Proposal: Legislative Dominance (AI = 2) > > I pledge to vote AGAINST this proposal. > > (As a note: If it passes, I will not come back. Enjoy your empty game.) > > -- > Taral > "Please

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-12 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Quazie wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Taral wrote: > > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: > >> Proposal: Legislative Dominance (AI = 2) > > > > I pledge to vote AGAINST this proposal. > > > > (As a note: If it passes, I will not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-12 Thread Taral
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > I see this proposal not as a way for me to be a jackass, but to reveal a > part of the game as flawed. Scamming is something that is very intricate in > the game, and as a result it should be expected that someone would submit a > proposal l

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-12 Thread Sean Hunt
Aaron Goldfein wrote: > I see this proposal not as a way for me to be a jackass, but to reveal a > part of the game as flawed. Scamming is something that is very intricate > in the game, and as a result it should be expected that someone would > submit a proposal like this. Instead of getting angry

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-12 Thread comex
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Taral wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: >> I see this proposal not as a way for me to be a jackass, but to reveal a >> part of the game as flawed. Scamming is something that is very intricate in >> the game, and as a result it shou

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-12 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Taral wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: > > I see this proposal not as a way for me to be a jackass, but to reveal a > > part of the game as flawed. Scamming is something that is very intricate > in > > the game, and as a result it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-12 Thread Sean Hunt
comex wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Taral wrote: >> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Aaron Goldfein >> wrote: >>> I see this proposal not as a way for me to be a jackass, but to reveal a >>> part of the game as flawed. Scamming is something that is very intricate in >>> the game, and

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution 6257 - 6269

2009-05-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:50 PM, comex wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> The highest orderly ID for distributed proposals is 6269; there are no >>> chaotic ID numbers. >>> >>> The Proposal Pool is empty. >> >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution 6257 - 6269

2009-05-12 Thread Sean Hunt
Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:50 PM, comex wrote: >> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >>> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: The highest orderly ID for distributed proposals is 6269; there are no chaotic ID numbers. The

DIS: Re: BUS: Why does it work like this?

2009-05-12 Thread Elliott Hird
The Herald is our historical ephemerist. On 2009-05-12, Sean Hunt wrote: > Proposal, AI=2, {Wrong officer}: > {{{ > In Rule 2229, replace > The Herald's monthly report shall include a list of > all Fugitives and the number of Rests they possess. > with > The Insulator's report s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Why does it work like this?

2009-05-12 Thread Sean Hunt
Elliott Hird wrote: > The Herald is our historical ephemerist. > > On 2009-05-12, Sean Hunt wrote: >> Proposal, AI=2, {Wrong officer}: >> {{{ >> In Rule 2229, replace >> The Herald's monthly report shall include a list of >> all Fugitives and the number of Rests they possess. >> with

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-12 Thread Elliott Hird
The Walrus scam caused deregistrations. My Outrage-O-Meter suggests this passing would lead to your house being set on fire. On 2009-05-13, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > Proposal: Legislative Dominance (AI = 2) > > All players who vote FOR this proposal (at the time the voting period ends) > and never

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-12 Thread Elliott Hird
As a general rule, a high-powered proposal can do anything. On 2009-05-13, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Quazie wrote: > >> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Taral wrote: >> > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Aaron Goldfein >> > >> wrote: >> >> Proposal: Legislative D

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-12 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > Proposal: Legislative Dominance (AI = 2) Conditional: { if the proposal would not be adopted if I voted AGAINST, then AGAINST, otherwise if the proposal would not be adopted if I didn't vote, then no vote, otherwise FOR }

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-12 Thread Sean Hunt
Ed Murphy wrote: > Yally wrote: > >> Proposal: Legislative Dominance (AI = 2) > > Conditional: { > if the proposal would not be adopted if I voted AGAINST, > then AGAINST, > otherwise if the proposal would not be adopted if I didn't vote, > then no vote, > otherwise FOR > } > Cond

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-12 Thread Taral
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:15 PM, comex wrote: > How is that any different from, say, inactivating people, or making > contracts contests?  It's all switches and flipping. It's a metagame distinction. This is tatamount to saying "support this scam or get kicked out of the game". -- Taral "Pleas

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-12 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 12 May 2009, Taral wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: >> I see this proposal not as a way for me to be a jackass, but to reveal a >> part of the game as flawed. Scamming is something that is very intricate in >> the game, and as a result it should be expect

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

2009-05-12 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 12 May 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: > Yally wrote: > >> Proposal: Legislative Dominance (AI = 2) > > Conditional: { > if the proposal would not be adopted if I voted AGAINST, >then AGAINST, > otherwise if the proposal would not be adopted if I didn't vote, >then no vote, > otherwise