Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821a,22a assigned to ais523, Wooble, Murphy

2010-07-31 Thread ais523
On Sat, 2010-07-31 at 13:55 -0400, comex wrote: > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > > Finally, comex's original "This is a win announcement:" can reasonably > > be argued as applying to the entire message (e did not specify a more > > limited scope), thus including eir parenthet

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6763-6765

2010-07-31 Thread comex
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > ENDORSEx12 the player with a valid vote with the highest number of props, > myself excluded; in case of a tie then the first of those players > alphabetically i change my name to a

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821a,22a assigned to ais523, Wooble, Murphy

2010-07-31 Thread comex
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Circularity is easily resolved if you stop thinking of it that way: > > IF NOT (IF this is a win announcement THEN someone satisfies a winning > condition) THEN this is not a win announcement. The proposed rule says "causes", not "would cause [i

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6763-6765

2010-07-31 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 13:51, Sean Hunt wrote: > in case of a tie then the first of those players alphabetically > Oh, I see how it is. -Yally

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821a,22a assigned to ais523, Wooble, Murphy

2010-07-31 Thread Sean Hunt
On 07/31/2010 11:56 AM, comex wrote: On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: c) It causes at least one Winning Condition to be satisfied, as defined by other rules. For it to be a win announcement it must cause a Winning Condition to be satisfied, but the Winning

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821a,22a assigned to ais523, Wooble, Murphy

2010-07-31 Thread comex
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >        c) It causes at least one Winning Condition to be satisfied, as >           defined by other rules. For it to be a win announcement it must cause a Winning Condition to be satisfied, but the Winning Condition can only be satisfied by a wi

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821a,22a assigned to ais523, Wooble, Murphy

2010-07-31 Thread comex
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Finally, comex's original "This is a win announcement:" can reasonably > be argued as applying to the entire message (e did not specify a more > limited scope), thus including eir parenthetical comment that "...the > proposal also awarded a win

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821a,22a assigned to ais523, Wooble, Murphy

2010-07-31 Thread Ed Murphy
> The difficulty in ALL win conditions, that 2186 specifies one set > of conditions for calling something a win announcement, and that other > rules say that it has to be a winning announcement with different > (not additional) information ("a win announcement that Proposal X has > been adopted" in

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ repeat

2010-07-31 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: > But these sort of CANNOTs have been overridden by proposals in the past > without blinking an eye! When we install an officer by Proposal, or > reset currencies or points directly, that's something we also generally > CANNOT do, but we've taken it to work, even in a power-1 proposal.