RE: DIS: Agora XX: 13th and final report

2013-07-02 Thread Steven Gardner
My dim recollection is that it took a kind of high level scam (in the sense of loophole exploitation, there was no attempt to win) to move away from the Mutable/Immutable distinction. But we didn't get straight to the Power system - that came later. The intermediate stage involved the definition of

Re: DIS: Note to H. CotC

2013-07-02 Thread Jonathan Rouillard
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Charles Walker wrote: > The "Judgement" column on this page isn't working, or indeed on any > other page which is a list of cases. > > http://cotc.psychose.ca/list.php > > -- Walker Duly noted, although working through the backlog has priority over fixing the site

DIS: Calling the H. CotC

2013-07-02 Thread omd
Roujo, Would you mind putting programs.tar.gz and dump.txt.gz back on your copy of the CotC database? Thanks.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, why not

2013-07-02 Thread Tanner Swett
On Jul 2, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Jul 2013, Tanner Swett wrote: >> On Jul 2, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> Please provide the text of the agreement so that it >>> can be determined that you have willfully consented. >>> Note: providing the text of the UNDEAD a

DIS: Economic Actions Proto

2013-07-02 Thread Charles Walker
I find all the instances of "spend N Yaks, where N is the value of the Something Switch, a Budget Switch" and suchlike in the Rules to be ugly. The Tax Rule is the worst (best?) example of this. Of course, it's all my fault, because I mostly wrote the Rules in question, so I'd like to rectify the s

DIS: Re: BUS: We are the Best!

2013-07-02 Thread Sean Hunt
I support and do so! On Jul 2, 2013 2:19 PM, "Alex Smith" wrote: > On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 14:12 -0400, omd wrote: > > I intend, with two Independent support, to create a party with the > > following constitution: > > > > 1. This party shall be known as the Best Party. > > 2. Any player may flip th

DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, why not

2013-07-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013, Tanner Swett wrote: > On Jul 2, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > > Machiavelli wrote: > > > >> I join UNDEAD. > > > > CoE: Over my dead body you do! > > Denied. > > On Jul 2, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Jul 2013, Tanner Swett wrote: > >> I join

Re: DIS: Question

2013-07-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013, Charles Walker wrote: > If an officer is required to perform a specific action (e.g. award N > Yaks to Walker) and the office changes hands, does that specific > requirement go along with it? Or is the new officer NOT GUILTY if e > fails to award me those particular Yaks? What

DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, why not

2013-07-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013, Tanner Swett wrote: > I join UNDEAD. Please provide the text of the agreement so that it can be determined that you have willfully consented. Note: providing the text of the UNDEAD agreement may or may not be punishable.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proto: infractions

2013-07-02 Thread Charles Walker
On 2 July 2013 17:51, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Well, here's a question for you (pertains to the Infractions proto too). > Should we try for a multi-currency system of some kind (with multiple > bank currencies of different liquidity) or stick with Yaks for everything > for the time being. (Not sure t

Re: DIS: Question

2013-07-02 Thread Sean Hunt
Yes. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Charles Walker wrote: > If an officer is required to perform a specific action (e.g. award N > Yaks to Walker) and the office changes hands, does that specific > requirement go along with it? Or is the new officer NOT GUILTY if e > fails to award me those par

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proto: infractions

2013-07-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013, Charles Walker wrote: > On 1 July 2013 23:35, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Mon, 1 Jul 2013, Charles Walker wrote: > >> On 29 April 2013 17:53, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> > Proto: basic Infractions mechanism (Discuss!) > >> > >> G., do you still intend to propose this? > > > > I ha

DIS: Question

2013-07-02 Thread Charles Walker
If an officer is required to perform a specific action (e.g. award N Yaks to Walker) and the office changes hands, does that specific requirement go along with it? Or is the new officer NOT GUILTY if e fails to award me those particular Yaks? What if the office changes hands one day before the end

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proto: infractions

2013-07-02 Thread Charles Walker
On 1 July 2013 23:35, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Mon, 1 Jul 2013, Charles Walker wrote: >> On 29 April 2013 17:53, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> > Proto: basic Infractions mechanism (Discuss!) >> >> G., do you still intend to propose this? > > I haven't taken it any further, feel free to jump into the lead

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yak niggles

2013-07-02 Thread Tanner Swett
On Jul 1, 2013, at 7:01 PM, omd wrote: > Note to self: This was never distributed. As I said, by next week, I > will have a script to avoid these way-too-frequent missed proposals. > Or you can replace me. I initiate an election for Promotor, nominating myself. —Machiavelli, who's still pretty b

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Herald Election

2013-07-02 Thread Charles Walker
On 2 July 2013 14:07, Max Schutz wrote: > since the census says i am inactive ibecome active again and do i just vote > here or is there a bizzare procedure to voting There's no particularly bizzare procedure: you just write "I vote for X", or whatever. But both becoming active and voting have to

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Herald Election

2013-07-02 Thread Max Schutz
since the census says i am inactive ibecome active again and do i just vote here or is there a bizzare procedure to voting On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Walker wrote: > > > On 2 July 2013 13:10, Ed Murphy wrote: > >> scshunt wrote: >>> I hereby initiate the Agoran Dec

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Herald Election

2013-07-02 Thread Ed Murphy
Walker wrote: > On 2 July 2013 13:10, Ed Murphy wrote: scshunt wrote: I hereby initiate the Agoran Decision to select the Herald. The candidates are scshunt and G., each with Proposed Salary 100. The valid options are the candidates, the eligible voters are the active players, and the vote co

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Herald Election

2013-07-02 Thread Charles Walker
On 2 July 2013 13:28, Charles Walker wrote: > On 2 July 2013 13:10, Ed Murphy wrote: >> scshunt wrote: >>> I hereby initiate the Agoran Decision to select the Herald. The >>> candidates are scshunt and G., each with Proposed Salary 100. >>> >>> The valid options are the candidates, the eligible v

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Herald Election

2013-07-02 Thread Charles Walker
On 2 July 2013 13:10, Ed Murphy wrote: > scshunt wrote: >> I hereby initiate the Agoran Decision to select the Herald. The >> candidates are scshunt and G., each with Proposed Salary 100. >> >> The valid options are the candidates, the eligible voters are the >> active players, and the vote collec

Re: DIS: Agora XX: CFJ on the UNDEAD

2013-07-02 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: On Wed, 26 Jun 2013, Fool wrote: On 26/06/2013 12:07 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: I was blocking on the term "logician", that's a better choice. (Just had a flashback to the day in grad school when I became a committed Bayesian, maybe I was channeling). Yeah man, you can get flashbacks

DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Herald Election

2013-07-02 Thread Ed Murphy
scshunt wrote: I hereby initiate the Agoran Decision to select the Herald. The candidates are scshunt and G., each with Proposed Salary 100. The valid options are the candidates, the eligible voters are the active players, and the vote collector is the IADoP. Voting is open for one week. Thou

DIS: What Nomic does to me (XX related)...

2013-07-02 Thread Chuck Carroll
After less than two weeks of playing Nomic, when I was thinking this morning that I needed to look up some details about a product, my internal monologue told me that I needed to "check the Ruleset" for that. Chuck

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Going soft on crime

2013-07-02 Thread Charles Walker
On 2 July 2013 03:30, Sgeo wrote: > I feel uncomfortable with the notion that the punishment for a crime is > dictated by a seemingly unrelated rule, and if that rule changes, the > punishment could end up changing underneath people's feet. Don't think of changing the registration delay as changi