Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A Criminal Case

2013-08-01 Thread Fool
On 01/08/2013 12:23 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Max Schutz wrote: sorry for being a pain but in lamens terms he tried to have us all deregistered and kicked is that it sorry my learning disability makes it a pain when there are a lot of words surrpounding a point Yes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A Criminal Case

2013-08-01 Thread Jonathan Rouillard
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Fool wrote: > Nor is there any common-sense right that can be appealed to. In ordinary > terms, this is just called "elimination", or more simply, "losing", and > that's a perfectly routine game occurance. Not in Agora. While losing is mostly equivalent to being el

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A Criminal Case

2013-08-01 Thread Fool
On 01/08/2013 8:40 AM, Jonathan Rouillard wrote: On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Fool wrote: Nor is there any common-sense right that can be appealed to. In ordinary terms, this is just called "elimination", or more simply, "losing", and that's a perfectly routine game occurance. Not in Agora

DIS: Re: BUS: Question for Platonists (not about dictators)

2013-08-01 Thread Craig Daniel
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 22:45 -0400, Fool wrote: >> I submit the following proposal: >> >> === >> Agora pulls a B (AI=3.1, PF=0, disi.) >> >> In rule 1551 (Ratification, Power=3.1), replace the sentence: >> >>Ratifying a public document

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3372 assigned to OscarMeyr

2013-08-01 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Jonathan Rouillard < jonathan.rouill...@gmail.com> wrote: > Disclaimer: This fails if I'm not the CotC at the moment. > > Detail: http://cotc.psychose.ca/viewcase.php?cfj=3372 > > == CFJ 3372 == > > Anno

DIS: Re: BUS: A Criminal Case

2013-08-01 Thread Max Schutz
on the grounds that i am understanding correctly I do favor this case On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Sean Hunt > wrote: > >> I submit a criminal case, barring the Serious Party, alleging that >> Fool violated Rule 101 by failing to

Re: DIS: Gratuitous arguments for logicians

2013-08-01 Thread omd
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Fool wrote: > As I said right off the bat, I didn't CFJ a free-floating version of Curry's > paradox. And that is basically why. Because then you only have to argue some > alternate logic for free-floating statements. Typically, for example, just > ignore it and sa

DIS: Re: BUS: Question for Platonists (not about dictators)

2013-08-01 Thread omd
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Fool wrote: > Agora pulls a B (AI=3.1, PF=0, disi.) > > In rule 1551 (Ratification, Power=3.1), replace the sentence: > > Ratifying a public document is secured. > > with: > > Ratifying a public document is secured with Power threshold 3. Oh, wow, thi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Question for Platonists (not about dictators)

2013-08-01 Thread Sean Hunt
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM, omd wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Fool wrote: >> Agora pulls a B (AI=3.1, PF=0, disi.) >> >> In rule 1551 (Ratification, Power=3.1), replace the sentence: >> >> Ratifying a public document is secured. >> >> with: >> >> Ratifying a public d

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Emergency Distribution of Proposal 7568

2013-08-01 Thread Sean Hunt
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:34 PM, omd wrote: >> I assume Promotor, just in case. >> >> I hereby distribute the following proposal, initiating the Agoran >> Decision of whether to adopt it. For this decision, the eligible >> voters are the active f

DIS: Re: BUS: publicity

2013-08-01 Thread omd
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > Wooble, your alternate-reality Registrar. This is for the Switchy interpretation, not simply ratification failing, right?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: publicity

2013-08-01 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:45 PM, omd wrote: > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Geoffrey Spear > wrote: > > Wooble, your alternate-reality Registrar. > > This is for the Switchy interpretation, not simply ratification failing, > right? > Yes, although honestly if no one in 2011 believed that "swi

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7548-7564

2013-08-01 Thread Max Schutz
I need a little more intel on the red tape humbug and kirby proposal On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > I vote: > > > 7548 10 O Ienpw IIIStandardized election days > FOR (this is unambiguous enough for my taste) > > > 7549 2 25 O Walker Recruitment Sanity > FO

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Question for Platonists (not about dictators)

2013-08-01 Thread Charles Walker
On 1 Aug 2013 18:31, "Sean Hunt" wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM, omd wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Fool wrote: > >> Agora pulls a B (AI=3.1, PF=0, disi.) > >> > >> In rule 1551 (Ratification, Power=3.1), replace the sentence: > >> > >> Ratifying a public document

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7548-7564

2013-08-01 Thread Charles Walker
On 1 Aug 2013 19:35, "Max Schutz" wrote: > > I need a little more intel on the red tape humbug and kirby proposal FOR, AGAINST and AGAINST respectively. There's a trick where you convert the proposal text into a folded string which shows you the correct vote. I'll show you sometime.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7548-7564

2013-08-01 Thread Max Schutz
ok i must know less about nomic than i thought i didn't know there was a correct and incorrect vote On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Charles Walker wrote: > On 1 Aug 2013 19:35, "Max Schutz" wrote: > > > > I need a little more intel on the red tape humbug and kirby proposal > > FOR, AGAINST and

Re: DIS: Gratuitous arguments for logicians

2013-08-01 Thread Tanner Swett
On Jul 29, 2013, at 8:13 PM, Fool wrote: >> You're right, intuitionistic logic is too weird. > > Heck no. Classical logic is weird. But classical logic is the system obeyed by truth-bearing statements! —"Of course, who cares about truth-bearing statements, anyway" Machiavelli