DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposals 7780-83

2015-08-03 Thread Tanner Swett
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:15 AM, omd wrote: >> 7782+ the Warrigal 3.0 Power Always Controls Mutability > AGAINST - this would prevent proposals from modifying Power>3 rules, > because Rule 106 is Power 3 How would it do that? Under this proposal, just like right now, Rule 2140 "Power Controls

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposals 7780-83

2015-08-03 Thread omd
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:15 AM, omd wrote: > >> 7782+ the Warrigal 3.0 Power Always Controls Mutability > > AGAINST - this would prevent proposals from modifying Power>3 rules, > > because Rule 106 is Power 3 > > How would it do that? Nev

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposals 7780-83

2015-08-03 Thread Tanner Swett
At the moment, I don't know of any places in the rules where a low-powered instrument is allowed to mess with a high-powered instrument. It would be nice if we could go from "we don't know of any" to "there aren't any". —the Warrigal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposals 7780-83

2015-08-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 3 Aug 2015, Tanner Swett wrote: > At the moment, I don't know of any places in the rules where a > low-powered instrument is allowed to mess with a high-powered > instrument. It would be nice if we could go from "we don't know of > any" to "there aren't any". Well, the whole point of Ag

Re: DIS: Where did Win by Paradox go?

2015-08-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 1 Aug 2015, Tanner Swett wrote: > On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Ok, here's what the first paradox was... What's your pseudo-judgement? > > > > The Not Your Turn card would cancel the effect of any card played > > in the last 24 hours (meant as a defense card). >

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Humiliating Reminder & Resolution of the Silver Quill Ceremony

2015-08-03 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Mon, 3 Aug 2015, Sean Hunt wrote: To resolve the conditional votes, I observe that a) aranea's vote does potentially depend on omd's, so I do not consider it in resolving the conditional b) therefore, omd's vote resolves to Revised Province of Agora c) therefore, aranea's vote resolves to Rib

Re: DIS: Where did Win by Paradox go?

2015-08-03 Thread Sean Hunt
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Sat, 1 Aug 2015, Tanner Swett wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > To this end, the current precedent of "switches" is: if a move would > put part of the game into an indeterminate fate, the move fails. In > th

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Humiliating Reminder & Resolution of the Silver Quill Ceremony

2015-08-03 Thread Sean Hunt
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > I was about to quibble with the logic (but not the tally) because given the > unconditional votes listed, the outcome of aranea's vote does not depend on > what omd votes. However because of the quorum knife edge, it actually > depends on th

Re: DIS: Where did Win by Paradox go?

2015-08-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 3 Aug 2015, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 1 Aug 2015, Tanner Swett wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > To this end, the current precedent of "switches" is: if a move would > > put part of the gam

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Humiliating Reminder & Resolution of the Silver Quill Ceremony

2015-08-03 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Mon, 3 Aug 2015, Sean Hunt wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: I was about to quibble with the logic (but not the tally) because given the unconditional votes listed, the outcome of aranea's vote does not depend on what omd votes. However because of the quorum knif

DIS: Re: BUS: AI cleanup

2015-08-03 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Mon, 3 Aug 2015, Sean Hunt wrote: Proposal: AI Fix (AI=3) {{{ Amend the first paragraph of Rule 1950 (Decisions with Adoption Indices) to read: Adoption index is a switch possessed by Agoran decisions and proposals, whose value is an integral multiple of 0.1 from 1.0 to 9.9, de

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Expedition] [AKA Proposal Distribution] Mammon Machine

2015-08-03 Thread Gaelan Steele
I vote against. This sounds like an evil plan for omd to win. > On Aug 3, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Sprocklem wrote: > > On 2015-08-03 19:29, omd wrote: >> I submit the following proposal, pend it, and specially deputise for >> the Promotor to distribute it, thereby expediting it. For this >> decision,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Expedition] [AKA Proposal Distribution] Mammon Machine

2015-08-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 3 Aug 2015, Tanner Swett wrote: > I vote NO on this Mammon Machine proposal. > > (Initially I thought there was some scam which would allow the > proposal to pass as long as it has at least 0.2 times as many FOR > votes as AGAINST votes. Alas.) This might be one to let fail quorum.

DIS: Re: BAK: test

2015-08-03 Thread omd
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Well my goodness, hi.CFJ: Quazie is a player. Arguments: I don't see any reason why "I attempt to leave" would be ineffective.