DIS: Sort-of random question

2017-05-14 Thread Josh T
Random question: Is there a way to formalize the fact that I do not want my name (as opposed to y nickname) to be an acceptable way to refer to me? 天火狐

DIS: proto: stopping timing scams

2017-05-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
Many voting scams in the past have end up in a race condition, dependent on voting on the last minute. Here's a proto to address that in general (and maybe even make it an interesting endgame). Just phrased generally to get feedback, need to figure out which rules it needs to overrule, etc.

Re: DIS: Confused

2017-05-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 14 May 2017, tmanthe2nd . wrote: > I understand that, I just don't understand what's going on in this case, > and I thought the voting had already ended. The loophole ais523 found was that anyone can "withdraw" anyone else's vote. You can only cast your own vote, but ais523 found that

Re: DIS: Confused

2017-05-14 Thread tmanthe2nd .
I understand that, I just don't understand what's going on in this case, and I thought the voting had already ended. On Sunday, May 14, 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2017-05-14 at 19:13 -0700, tmanthe2nd . wrote: > > What is going on with all these votes? > > In

Re: DIS: Confused

2017-05-14 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2017-05-14 at 19:13 -0700, tmanthe2nd . wrote: > What is going on with all these votes? In general, one of the main activities of the game is voting on proposals to change the rules. Agora's a game where the rules can be changed by its players, and we tend to do that a lot. In specific,

DIS: Re: BUS: Counter-scam

2017-05-14 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 7:34 PM, Jonathan Rouillard wrote: > On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 4:03 AM Aris Merchant > wrote: >> ID Author(s) AI Title Pender Pend fee (sh.) >>

DIS: Confused

2017-05-14 Thread tmanthe2nd .
What is going on with all these votes?

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7850-7851

2017-05-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 15 May 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2017-05-14 at 18:21 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Sun, 14 May 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > > > For each ballot on the Agoran Decision on whether to adopt proposal > > > 7851, if that ballot was not submitted by ais523, Josh T, o, or Quazie, >

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7850-7851

2017-05-14 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2017-05-14 at 18:21 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Sun, 14 May 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > > For each ballot on the Agoran Decision on whether to adopt proposal > > 7851, if that ballot was not submitted by ais523, Josh T, o, or Quazie, > > I withdraw that ballot. > > FWIW, 7851 would

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7850-7851

2017-05-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 14 May 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > For each ballot on the Agoran Decision on whether to adopt proposal > 7851, if that ballot was not submitted by ais523, Josh T, o, or Quazie, > I withdraw that ballot. FWIW, 7851 would have no effect on the ruleset, as it doesn't specify the order of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7850-7851

2017-05-14 Thread Quazie
The Coe will not affect passing - if it's correct it's another vote for. On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 16:44 Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2017-05-14 at 16:38 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > > By the way, I'd welcome technical arguments about the timing from > > other players.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7850-7851

2017-05-14 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2017-05-14 at 16:38 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > By the way, I'd welcome technical arguments about the timing from > other players. I'm afraid I don't have the technical expertise needed > to interpret the headers in a meaningful way. Also, proposal 7848 > passed, which creates an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7850-7851

2017-05-14 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2017-05-14 at 16:26 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: >> What about quorum? See CFJ 1562, which indicates that canceled votes >> do not count towards quorum. Also Rule 683 "A valid ballot is a >> ballot, correctly

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7850-7851

2017-05-14 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2017-05-14 at 16:26 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > What about quorum? See CFJ 1562, which indicates that canceled votes > do not count towards quorum. Also Rule 683 "A valid ballot is a > ballot, correctly submitted, that has not been withdrawn." and Rule > 955 "If there is more than one

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7850-7851

2017-05-14 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2017-05-07 at 15:56 -0700, qoid.us (Agora's list server) wrote: >> Received: (qmail 13401 invoked from network); 7 May 2017 22:56:48 - >> Received: from localhost (HELO vps.qoid.us) (127.0.0.1) >> by

DIS: Testing, please ignore

2017-05-14 Thread Aris Merchant
1... 2... 3... -Aris

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal(s) 7848

2017-05-14 Thread Nicholas Evans
Admittedly I missed that. But I think ballots have to explicitly be withdrawn before new ones are valid. On May 14, 2017 01:55, "Quazie" wrote: > Claim of error - my email entitled 'votes' should've superseded my vote on > this proposal I believe. > > On Sun, May 14, 2017