Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Silver Quill for the Agoran Year ending on October 31, 2016

2017-09-06 Thread V.J Rada
I don't think it's valid: I vividly remember that election being initiated, although never resolved. On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > If the Decision identified below is valid, I vote on it as follows: > >> On Sep 6, 2017, at 4:22 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> >> IN CASE

Re: DIS: Clearing up the game state

2017-09-06 Thread V.J Rada
"e tried to have Agora transfer em the FLOATING value, not the SHINY value." I think you mean STAMP value :) On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I discovered two problems with Cuddle’s attempt. The first, which I believe > is sufficient to make it fail, is that e tried to hav

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Revised report

2017-09-06 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 6, 2017, at 4:48 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 06:43 +1000, V.J Rada wrote: >> Sorry yeah, I do accept this as true (sorry I got the rules wrong last >> night) but because PSS is interested in fighting it I call a CFJ with >> the statement "G is the Herald". He deputis

DIS: Clearing up the game state

2017-09-06 Thread Gaelan Steele
I discovered two problems with Cuddle’s attempt. The first, which I believe is sufficient to make it fail, is that e tried to have Agora transfer em the FLOATING value, not the SHINY value. This means that VJ got his rewards. My other reason remains classified. I’d advise that VJ still refrain

Re: DIS: Draft: Contracts

2017-09-06 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Sep 6, 2017, at 7:58 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 12:36 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > >>> Repeal rule 2457 ("Lockout"). >> >> This isn't technically tied to Organizations, but I agree with >> repealing it anyway just because it's likely to become a dead-end >> mechanic with

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Reward

2017-09-06 Thread V.J Rada
OK, I'll hoard my possible Shinies. On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > On Sep 7, 2017, at 2:13 AM, V.J Rada wrote: > >> I receive a reward for my revised ADoP report. I go from 0 to 5 shinies. > > If CuddleBeam’s mass destruction of Shinies worked, then Agora had exactly > z

DIS: Re: BUS: Reward

2017-09-06 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Sep 7, 2017, at 2:13 AM, V.J Rada wrote: > I receive a reward for my revised ADoP report. I go from 0 to 5 shinies. If CuddleBeam’s mass destruction of Shinies worked, then Agora had exactly zero shinies at this time and this didn’t work. I’d very much appreciate if neither of you spent any

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Revised report

2017-09-06 Thread V.J Rada
Accepted. That column obviously doesn't self-ratify so it's not a _real_ CoE, but accepted yes. On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:40 AM V.J Rada wrote: >> >> Effective as of 4pm AEST, 9 Sep 2017. >> >> > Office Holder Since Last Ele

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Initiating elections.

2017-09-06 Thread V.J Rada
"I vote for whoever has the most votes for each currently open office election" FYI I'm not resolving this. On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:02 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > I announce that I am a candidate for Prime Minister and ADoP. Y'all > should vote for me, folks. > > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Owen

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Initiating elections.

2017-09-06 Thread V.J Rada
I announce that I am a candidate for Prime Minister and ADoP. Y'all should vote for me, folks. On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> On Sep 6, 2017, at 2:51 AM, V.J Rada wrote: >> >> As the ADoP, I initiate elections for the positions of Prime Minister, >> Herald, ADoP. and R

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: humble agoran farmer cashes in your stamps

2017-09-06 Thread V.J Rada
I pledge not to reveal or exploit the information without the consent of Gaelan. On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Good enough. I’ll email you in a second. I’m probably being too careful here, > but just in case: let it be known that I possess the ideas contained in the > p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Revised report

2017-09-06 Thread V.J Rada
I retract. G is the herald, accepted. On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I am not interested in fighting it. > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 16:44 V.J Rada wrote: >> >> Sorry yeah, I do accept this as true (sorry I got the rules wrong last >> night) but because PSS

Re: DIS: Draft: Contracts

2017-09-06 Thread Aris Merchant
Affixed is a new draft. Notable changes include the addition of section 1.4 with some tweaks to existing rules, adding sustenance (read monthly fees), a few power tweaks, and several additions to the protected actions list. Also included are numerous requested fixes and typo corrections. I think I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: humble agoran farmer cashes in your stamps

2017-09-06 Thread Kyle Anderson
Due to quantity would be my guess. The rule reads "a stamp", the attempt was made for "all stamps". It seems to me that the rules requires an announcement for each stamp that the player wishes to destroy. On Sep 6, 2017 11:39 PM, "Gaelan Steele" wrote: This probably didn’t succeed. I will (priva

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: humble agoran farmer cashes in your stamps

2017-09-06 Thread Gaelan Steele
This probably didn’t succeed. I will (privately) explain why to anybody who pledges not to reveal or exploit the information until I do, probably after the next floating value update. Gaelan > On Sep 6, 2017, at 10:26 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > Small re-attempt because what I just did likely d

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prop] Not so cuddly now

2017-09-06 Thread Cuddle Beam
One of the reaosns is that they're eligible for Welcome Packages to drain Agora to tactically stall out having other people gain any cash from Agora (for example, during an auction). I have my reasons lol, I just don't like to tell them. On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:32 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Co

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prop] Not so cuddly now

2017-09-06 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:32 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > Consent, not support. This requires 60%. Oh, so it does. I retract my complaint - the two looked the same at first glance. > Thanks for the reminder; I pend this with AP. > > P.S. To clarify: this is not an attempt to kick out Cuddle or

DIS: Re: BUS: [Prop] Not so cuddly now

2017-09-06 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 6, 2017, at 12:56 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > I create the following proposal “Not So Cuddly Now” with AI 1 by Gaelan: { > diff --git a/rules/How to Join and Leave Agora b/rules/How to Join and Leave > Agora > index 4683d3d..962eb2c 100644 > --- a/rules/How to Join and Leave Agora > +

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Initiating elections.

2017-09-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 03:15 +0200, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > Hrm. This is interesting. (If they're different) Would the verdict be what > > I intended the message to mean or the consensus on the interpretation of > > what I've written? > > It'd be pretty bad

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3555 assigned to grok

2017-09-06 Thread Aris Merchant
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 7:34 PM grok (caleb vines) wrote: > > > On Sep 6, 2017 9:24 PM, "Aris Merchant" < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 6:24 PM, Alex Smith > wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-08-24 at 18:13 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> > >> I CFJ on the followin

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3555 assigned to grok

2017-09-06 Thread grok (caleb vines)
On Sep 6, 2017 9:24 PM, "Aris Merchant" wrote: On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 6:24 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-08-24 at 18:13 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> I CFJ on the following (using AP if I am a Player) and barring >> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus: >> >> G. and Cuddlebeam, and no

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3555 assigned to grok

2017-09-06 Thread Aris Merchant
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 6:24 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-08-24 at 18:13 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> I CFJ on the following (using AP if I am a Player) and barring >> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus: >> >> G. and Cuddlebeam, and no one else, have won the game via tournament >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Initiating elections.

2017-09-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 03:15 +0200, Cuddle Beam wrote: > Hrm. This is interesting. (If they're different) Would the verdict be what > I intended the message to mean or the consensus on the interpretation of > what I've written? It'd be pretty bad for the game if a person's actual intentions (which

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Initiating elections.

2017-09-06 Thread Cuddle Beam
Hrm. This is interesting. (If they're different) Would the verdict be what I intended the message to mean or the consensus on the interpretation of what I've written? On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 3:07 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > It's unclear to me if this is a statement of fact (whomever has the most

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Initiating elections.

2017-09-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
It's unclear to me if this is a statement of fact (whomever has the most votes *now*) or a conditional vote (whomever has the most votes at the end of the voting period). If I had to guess, I'd go with the first one. On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I vote for whoever has the most votes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clear things up a bit

2017-09-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
Typical G. "well, in my day" incoming: Conditionals in general crept in through the back door. Before conditional voting, they were mostly very simple, e.g. "If I haven't already payed by AP, I pay by Shiny." Usually this was in the context of quoting a past questionable action and attempting

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clear things up a bit

2017-09-06 Thread Aris Merchant
Apology accepted. To be fair, it was reasonably clear for both of you, it's just that ais523 was replying to my message, which made me wonder. -Aris On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:31 PM, grok (caleb vines) wrote: > Oops. I didn't read the quote text and thought you were asking me. Sorry for > the snar

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clear things up a bit

2017-09-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2017-09-06 at 17:26 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > Mine, or nichdel's? Mine was sent to a-d, and is extremely vague > (what > exactly is a 'provocation' anyway)? And no, there isn't a time limit, > although there is one potential way out of any SHALL at the moment. Was primarily thinking of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clear things up a bit

2017-09-06 Thread grok (caleb vines)
Oops. I didn't read the quote text and thought you were asking me. Sorry for the snark, Aris -grok On Sep 6, 2017 7:28 PM, "grok (caleb vines)" wrote: I think the answer to that is pretty obvious. -grok On Sep 6, 2017 7:27 PM, "Aris Merchant" wrote: Mine, or nichdel's? Mine was sent to a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clear things up a bit

2017-09-06 Thread grok (caleb vines)
I think the answer to that is pretty obvious. -grok On Sep 6, 2017 7:27 PM, "Aris Merchant" wrote: Mine, or nichdel's? Mine was sent to a-d, and is extremely vague (what exactly is a 'provocation' anyway)? And no, there isn't a time limit, although there is one potential way out of any SHALL a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clear things up a bit

2017-09-06 Thread Aris Merchant
Mine, or nichdel's? Mine was sent to a-d, and is extremely vague (what exactly is a 'provocation' anyway)? And no, there isn't a time limit, although there is one potential way out of any SHALL at the moment. -Aris On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > Is there a time limit or othe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clear things up a bit

2017-09-06 Thread grok (caleb vines)
On Sep 6, 2017 7:23 PM, "Alex Smith" wrote: On Wed, 2017-09-06 at 17:17 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > > Since you lack either empathy or theory of mind and only react to > > personal > > damages: > > > > I pledge to vote AGAINST on all proposals

Re: DIS: Draft: Contracts

2017-09-06 Thread Cuddle Beam
Ah, OK. I look forwards to when you do, then. On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 2:21 AM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm trying not to do the 7 versions thing this time. I haven't added > ais523's upkeep fee thing yet, as it's more complicated than most of > these correction

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clear things up a bit

2017-09-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2017-09-06 at 17:17 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > > Since you lack either empathy or theory of mind and only react to > > personal > > damages: > > > > I pledge to vote AGAINST on all proposals created or pended by > > Cuddle Beam. > > >

Re: DIS: Draft: Contracts

2017-09-06 Thread Aris Merchant
I'm trying not to do the 7 versions thing this time. I haven't added ais523's upkeep fee thing yet, as it's more complicated than most of these corrections, and I don't want to publish a new draft until I do. -Aris On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I see a lot of "done's" and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clear things up a bit

2017-09-06 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I concur with Aris, this was a bit harsh, but I do concur with the sentiment. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 6, 2017, at 8:15 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > > > > On 09/06/17 19:05, Cuddle Beam wrote: >> >From a speech act theory standpoint, any spe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clear things up a bit

2017-09-06 Thread Aris Merchant
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > > > On 09/06/17 19:05, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > >From a speech act theory standpoint, any speech act already encodes > conditionals (that the preconditions match, that the way I invoke it > performs it, that others recognizes the previous two points

Re: DIS: Draft: Contracts

2017-09-06 Thread Aris Merchant
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > I read this last night, slept on it, skimmed it again, and read the replies. > Here’s my initial thoughts, thin as they are - I had more, but Gaelan and > ais523 have already covered most of my inquiries. > > On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:10 PM, Ari

Re: DIS: Draft: Contracts

2017-09-06 Thread Cuddle Beam
I see a lot of "done's" and "fixed" but I don't see a "latest version" part. Please post it to check it out. (I do a lot/want to do a lot of Agency stuff lol. It's my favorite mechanic, and if you make it even better, then, I'd be super grateful) On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 2:08 AM, Aris Merchant < tho

Re: DIS: Draft: Contracts

2017-09-06 Thread Aris Merchant
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 6:09 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Lines beginning with hashmarks ("#") and comments in square brackets ("[]") > have no effect on the behavior of this proposal. They are not part of any > rules > created or amended herein, and may be considered for all game purposes to > have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clear things up a bit

2017-09-06 Thread Cuddle Beam
>From a speech act theory standpoint, any speech act already encodes conditionals (that the preconditions match, that the way I invoke it performs it, that others recognizes the previous two points, that everyone assumes genuine intent). Allowing more conditionals to be included is a natural extens

Re: DIS: Draft: Contracts

2017-09-06 Thread Aris Merchant
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 12:36 AM, Alex Smith wrote: >> Lines beginning with hashmarks ("#") and comments in square brackets ("[]") >> have no effect on the behavior of this proposal. They are not part of any >> rules >> created or amended herein, and may be considered for all game purposes to >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clear things up a bit

2017-09-06 Thread Aris Merchant
Your conditional doesn't meet it's own requirements. This arguably requires me to look through all CFJs, to make sure the doctrine hasn't been overturned. I therefore determine that you haven't submitted a proposal. I'd also just add it to the last paragraph, rather than making a new one. -Aris O

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clear things up a bit

2017-09-06 Thread Nic Evans
On 09/06/17 18:47, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I think that's great for Agora but if its based on a CFJ or tradition, > that's more of the "implicit rules" (or "obscure rules") phenomenon > which I dislike. Conditional-ing stuff is as powerful as a real > mechanic imo, and one of the most powerful ones. L

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clear things up a bit

2017-09-06 Thread Nic Evans
On 09/06/17 18:16, Cuddle Beam wrote: > Note: we have explicit conditional voting, but not conditional > explicit action-doing in general. > > I'm in favor of conditional action-doing in general because it's > another useful tool for doing stuff (...and the rules are silent on > the issue). Voting

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clear things up a bit

2017-09-06 Thread Aris Merchant
Oh, no, we definitely have conditional actioning (consider that a nonce). The condition just has to be evaluable at the time it is said, so no future conditionals. At least, that's my understanding. -Aris On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > Note: we have explicit conditional vot

DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clear things up a bit

2017-09-06 Thread Cuddle Beam
Note: we have explicit conditional voting, but not conditional explicit action-doing in general. I'm in favor of conditional action-doing in general because it's another useful tool for doing stuff (...and the rules are silent on the issue). On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:58 AM, Aris Merchant < though

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Initiating elections.

2017-09-06 Thread Cuddle Beam
Could work as a good place for ads too. On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 1:03 AM, Josh T wrote: > I intend to also make news sections freelance-able, to be included if > deemed worthy and author paid if used. Should I win and contracts pass, I > intend to make a contract which allows me to pay people for

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Initiating elections.

2017-09-06 Thread Josh T
I intend to also make news sections freelance-able, to be included if deemed worthy and author paid if used. Should I win and contracts pass, I intend to make a contract which allows me to pay people for articles if they wish to submit them and I choose to include them. Please find a proto-newspap

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Revised report

2017-09-06 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I am not interested in fighting it. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 16:44 V.J Rada wrote: > Sorry yeah, I do accept this as true (sorry I got the rules wrong last > night) but because PSS is interested in fighting it I call a CFJ with > the statement "G is the Herald". He deputised for it in order to give

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Revised report

2017-09-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 06:43 +1000, V.J Rada wrote: > Sorry yeah, I do accept this as true (sorry I got the rules wrong last > night) but because PSS is interested in fighting it I call a CFJ with > the statement "G is the Herald". He deputised for it in order to give > champion to all the winners.

DIS: Re: BUS: Rabbons

2017-09-06 Thread V.J Rada
I gained it above, w/ G's message. On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:37 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2017-09-06 at 15:48 +1000, V.J Rada wrote: >> I award myself white and ultraviolet ribbons > > What's the timing on the Ultraviolet ribbon like? I can see how the > White ribbon works. Did you gain Cha

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Silver Quill for the Agoran Year ending on October 31, 2016

2017-09-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
Oh, sorry: as is obvious from my attempt to re-start it, I thought you were talking about the Quill election. On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > The argument that it failed was a combination of the ability to add to the > pool of options mid-decision and the confusion

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Silver Quill for the Agoran Year ending on October 31, 2016

2017-09-06 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Was there any confusion about this one? I thought we were confused about the Victory election. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 16:24 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > IN CASE IT DIDN'T START: > > I deputize for the Herald to initiate an Agoran Decision for the Silver > Quill 2016. > The vote collector is the Heral

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Silver Quill for the Agoran Year ending on October 31, 2016

2017-09-06 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I can't do it first because there is no SHALL requiring resolution, the SHALL only applies if the initiation is required. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 16:21 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > At a glance, that's messier and I can't look into it as my lunch break is > almost > over. That leaves an opening for PS

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Silver Quill for the Agoran Year ending on October 31, 2016

2017-09-06 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
The argument that it failed was a combination of the ability to add to the pool of options mid-decision and the confusion regarding the definition of announcement as a candidate. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 16:20 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > That's another CFJ then - from what I can tell from searching yo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Silver Quill for the Agoran Year ending on October 31, 2016

2017-09-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
That's another CFJ then - from what I can tell from searching you never said it didn't work, and I'm not sure I see anything wrong with the announcement - can you point me to any arguments that it failed? On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I don't believe that it had ev

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Silver Quill for the Agoran Year ending on October 31, 2016

2017-09-06 Thread Quazie
I disagree, I judged the CFJ that noted that it did, indeed, start correctly. [CFJ 3513] The problem with the victory election rule is that there is no requirement for the herald to every resolve the decision. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:15 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Silver Quill for the Agoran Year ending on October 31, 2016

2017-09-06 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I don't believe that it had ever correctly started. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 16:06 Quazie wrote: > I vote for G in the Herald election if it is still ongoing. > > I request that the Herald finally tally the results of the Victory > Election held many moons ago. > > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:03 PM

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Silver Quill for the Agoran Year ending on October 31, 2016

2017-09-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2017-09-06 at 13:04 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > If I was the Herald before the below, I resolve the below decision as > indicated (without deputization). I think you can deputise for your own office as long as the other deputisation criteria are met (e.g. the action being late). -- ais52

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Revised Monthly Report and Other Stuff

2017-09-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
That's not how the Rule actually reads, even if it's more convenient. Please CFJ if you disagree with the plain reading of the rule: - The win was announced over 14 days from when I deputized. - There was no open CFJ when the win was announced, nor when I deputized. On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, Publi

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Revised Monthly Report and Other Stuff

2017-09-06 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I have read the rules. However, I believe the question is as to when the case was closed. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 6, 2017, at 7:55 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >> Good poin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ribbon

2017-09-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2017-09-06 at 20:55 +1000, V.J Rada wrote: > I also award myself a violet ribbon for deputisation. > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:42 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > > I once again cause myself to receive an ultraviolet ribbon. > > -- > > From V.J Rada a) NttPF, b) that's the wrong colour of ribbon a

DIS: Re: BUS: Rabbons

2017-09-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2017-09-06 at 15:37 +0100, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2017-09-06 at 15:48 +1000, V.J Rada wrote: > > I award myself white and ultraviolet ribbons > > What's the timing on the Ultraviolet ribbon like? I can see how the > White ribbon works. Did you gain Champion within the previous week? (

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I take an action

2017-09-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 19:24 -0700, Gaelan Steele wrote: > E could stash his money in an organization.  FWIW, I saw this scam ages ago, decided it was too risky to try to use (partly due to the risk of accidentally deregistering myself, but mostly because AFAICT the Shinies would be stuck in the Or

DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer becums teh registored

2017-09-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I am becum reg1stored for dis geim of thigners and monies and offises wich we > pley ere. > By paying 1 AP. I CFJ: "Cuddlebeam is now eligible to claim another Welcome > Package". Counterarguments: The action in question is registering. To me, this st

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Revised Monthly Report and Other Stuff

2017-09-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > Good point. Given the lack of a SHALL, no requirement was unfulfilled > and he didn’t take the office. If you want to CFJ this, you can, but > it seems clear to me. Read the rules pls. The SHALL requirement is in R649:

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Revised report

2017-09-06 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Thank you. I think mainly in UTC. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 6, 2017, at 7:09 AM, V.J Rada wrote: > > Australian eastern standard time. 4pm aest = 6am gmt. > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: >> W

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Revised report

2017-09-06 Thread V.J Rada
Australian eastern standard time. 4pm aest = 6am gmt. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > What is AEST? > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > > > >> On Sep 6, 2017, at 6:40 AM, V.J Rada wrote: >> >> AEST > -- >Fr

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Revised report

2017-09-06 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
What is AEST? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 6, 2017, at 6:40 AM, V.J Rada wrote: > > AEST signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail

DIS: Re: BUS: Ribbon

2017-09-06 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
You can’t I already did. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 6, 2017, at 6:42 AM, V.J Rada wrote: > > I once again cause myself to receive an ultraviolet ribbon. > -- > From V.J Rada signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using G

DIS: Re: BUS: Ribbon

2017-09-06 Thread V.J Rada
I also award myself a violet ribbon for deputisation. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:42 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > I once again cause myself to receive an ultraviolet ribbon. > -- > From V.J Rada -- >From V.J Rada

DIS: Re: BUS: Rabbons

2017-09-06 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
That is correct I had failed to award the title, explicitly. I was intending for the award to be made implicitly by their inclusion. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 6, 2017, at 3:21 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, Kerim Ay

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: routine deregistration

2017-09-06 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
What things could be lost forever? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 6, 2017, at 12:40 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > That and other things which could be lost forever if they are deregistered so > I'm a bit wary for now. > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I take an action

2017-09-06 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
We did that with I think o or omd, a while ago. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:55 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > Actually, is being non-registered a requirement to register? Couldn't > registered people just... Register again? > >

DIS: Re: BUS: routine deregistration

2017-09-06 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Why? This process is intended to deregister anyone who isn’t participating. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 5, 2017, at 11:36 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > I object. > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:34 AM, V.J Rada wrote: > Without objection, I inte

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Regkeepor] ACORN

2017-09-06 Thread Aris Merchant
It's 12:30 local, so I'm going to sleep. I just overreacted a bit and called elections. We'll see how it works out. If that CoE was right your deputization failed anyway. We'll see how it all works out. -Aris On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:38 AM V.J Rada wrote: > It is overdue enough, it was last pu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

2017-09-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, V.J Rada wrote: > I won't accept or deny this until e responds. > > Unrelated, are you voting on the elections other than Herald? Yah I'll vote when I see if there's multiple people who want any of these or not. competitive elections are more fun :)

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Regkeepor] ACORN

2017-09-06 Thread V.J Rada
It is overdue enough, it was last published 14 August by my reckoning. Sorry yeah I did notice the CoE, it was my bad taking it. I can resign the office? And you can take it then. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > First of all, I don't think it's overdue enough. Second, the r

DIS: Re: OFF: [Regkeepor] ACORN

2017-09-06 Thread Aris Merchant
First of all, I don't think it's overdue enough. Second, the reason I haven't published lately is because there's an outstanding CoE, tied to a judicial case that was never judged, and the report is basicly empty anyway. Try to ask before you take offices, would you? If you actually hold this now,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

2017-09-06 Thread V.J Rada
I won't accept or deny this until e responds. Unrelated, are you voting on the elections other than Herald? On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:31 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, V.J Rada wrote: >> Office Holder Since Last Election Can Elect[1] >> -

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Initiating elections.

2017-09-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, V.J Rada wrote: > you can take reportor that's a useless job - unwanted by me. :P

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Initiating elections.

2017-09-06 Thread V.J Rada
you can take reportor On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, V.J Rada wrote: >> As the ADoP, I initiate elections for the positions of Prime Minister, >> Herald, ADoP. and Reportor. >> >> I initiate the Agoran decision to determine the new Herald. The vote >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [QAZ][ADoP] Metareport

2017-09-06 Thread Ørjan Johansen
NTTPF On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, V.J Rada wrote: I point my finger at Quazie for never resolving this CoE. I accept this CoE. On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:29 AM, Nic Evans wrote: On 08/21/17 18:46, Owen Jacobson wrote: Through the mechanism described in the agency “Quazie’s Autonomous Zeal,” I cau