DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

You can subtract from me, but not from who I am enabling to game the system in secret, mwahahaha! On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:15 AM, Telnaior wrote: > This is a Notice of Honour. > I subtract a Karma from Cuddle Beam for attempting to game the karma > system. > I give a Karma to Aris for putting i

Re: DIS: Party Proclamation

I hereby proclaim that the illustrious response of the le Maximusest Excellente Cuddle of the Beams is: WHO SMELT IT DEALT IT On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Madeline wrote: > You call it werewolf? I'm disowning you. > > > On 2017-10-30 17:40, VJ Rada wrote: > >> So you want to play warewolf?

Re: DIS: Party Proclamation

You call it werewolf? I'm disowning you. On 2017-10-30 17:40, VJ Rada wrote: So you want to play warewolf? On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: OFFICIAL PARTY PROCLAMATION The Party has benevolently governed Agora for a long time, protecting the interests of the players and

Re: DIS: Party Proclamation

It's actually inspired by something G. said about a past mini game. I was thinking maybe there wouldn't even be actual traitors, just accusations of treason. I think that would make it the most interesting. -Aris On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 11:40 PM VJ Rada wrote: > So you want to play warewolf? >

Re: DIS: Party Proclamation

So you want to play warewolf? On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > OFFICIAL PARTY PROCLAMATION > > The Party has benevolently governed Agora for a long time, protecting the > interests of the players and the game. Recently, it has come to the attention > of Party leadership tha

DIS: Party Proclamation

OFFICIAL PARTY PROCLAMATION The Party has benevolently governed Agora for a long time, protecting the interests of the players and the game. Recently, it has come to the attention of Party leadership that some persons may be attempting to seditiously defy party authority. This cannot be tolerated,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Voting on a lot of things

On 2017-10-30 15:16, Aris Merchant wrote: On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 9:13 PM Telnaior > wrote: I vote: FOR 7931 FOR 7932 (this is way cooler than a victory election) FOR 7933 AGAINST 7934 (why are we turning into a literature club I'm awful at poem

DIS: Re: BUS: Voting on a lot of things

On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 9:13 PM Telnaior wrote: > I vote: > > FOR 7931 > FOR 7932 (this is way cooler than a victory election) > FOR 7933 > AGAINST 7934 (why are we turning into a literature club I'm awful at poems) > FOR 7935 (but you might want to make the revision limit switch secured) > FOR 7

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft

Now that's an error you could reasonably yellow card me for, if I did it again. Fixed, with my sincere apologies. -Aris On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 8:19 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > This has already been pointed out twice. I STILL didn't write HTML > Scrubbing or No List Prefixes. > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 a

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft

This has already been pointed out twice. I STILL didn't write HTML Scrubbing or No List Prefixes. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > Here's a draft. This should work properly, right? > > -Aris > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > Decision of w

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

Here's a draft. This should work properly, right? -Aris I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 6.0 and the valid options are FOR a

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ Initiation

I have a friend who collects currency, I wonder if he (e? for non-Agorans) has acquired Zimbabwe dollars. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 1:40 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > The worst that can come out of this CFJ is that I am found to break > the rules. I will probably award myself a Green Card because the other

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ Initiation

See also CFJ 2248 for a laugh, in which G. wanted to pay 1 actual US dollar to another player (legally inapplicable, but factually similar) On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 1:49 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > I direct the judge of this CFJ to > 1: The "KFC" points or whatever it was kid who tried to buy a fighter j

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ Initiation

I direct the judge of this CFJ to 1: The "KFC" points or whatever it was kid who tried to buy a fighter jet. 2: The time Donald Trump tried to sue a talk-show host for offering five million bucks to prove he wasn't a gorilla, and then not paying up. It is clear that real world legal systems do not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ Initiation

Aris, I disagree. I think if someone contracted to give away shinies and didn't, a blue card could be issued. And my word is, at least until I lose the election, law hahahahahahahaha. Having said that, words have context. Blue cards are clearly meant to be a mechanism for disgorging shinies. Even

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ Initiation

It's money that e otherwise wouldn't have had, surely? You wouldn't say that someone doesn't profit from committing tax evasion. On 2017-10-30 13:44, Aris Merchant wrote: How? Keeping money isn't really a profit, is it? -Aris On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Madeline wrote: I'd suggest a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ Initiation

How? Keeping money isn't really a profit, is it? -Aris On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Madeline wrote: > I'd suggest a blue card, actually, since you profited from the rules breach. > > > > On 2017-10-30 13:40, VJ Rada wrote: >> >> The worst that can come out of this CFJ is that I am found to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ Initiation

H. Arbitor, please throw it on the pile I guess. On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 at 22:43 Madeline wrote: > I'd suggest a blue card, actually, since you profited from the rules > breach. > > > On 2017-10-30 13:40, VJ Rada wrote: > > The worst that can come out of this CFJ is that I am found to break > > the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ Initiation

I'd suggest a blue card, actually, since you profited from the rules breach. On 2017-10-30 13:40, VJ Rada wrote: The worst that can come out of this CFJ is that I am found to break the rules. I will probably award myself a Green Card because the other cards are for things that affect the gamest

Re: DIS: CFJ 3586 Draft?

Yes, as it happens. There is a decision on the matter in the first paragraph of CFJ 3523 [1]. It is in agreement with your proposed ruling. [1] https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3523 -Aris On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Madeline wrote: > My first instinct here is to judge thi

Re: DIS: CFJ 3586 Draft?

Nope! And CFJ 3523 provides that a message stating "i sent this to the wrong place" works. Which is very different to a couple of extra ts. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Madeline wrote: > My first instinct here is to judge this as TRUE, as the custom of TTttPF to > repost messages doesn't seem

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ Initiation

The worst that can come out of this CFJ is that I am found to break the rules. I will probably award myself a Green Card because the other cards are for things that affect the gamestate and 1 million dollars has *zero* gamestate effect. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Mon,

DIS: CFJ 3586 Draft?

My first instinct here is to judge this as TRUE, as the custom of TTttPF to repost messages doesn't seem to be a formal rule so some leeway is permitted (and the intent is certainly clear enough). Is there any precedent that gives specific requirements for TTttPF to work? On 2017-10-30 11:58,

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Agronomist Election Agoran Decision Initiation and Campaign Proposal Distribution

I vote AGAINST o's proposal, FOR my own, and PRESENT on the election because both proposals eliminate the position anyway. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:58 PM, ATMunn wrote: > [that's a really long subject line, any ideas on how I could shorten it?] > > As per my duties as ADoP, I hereby initiate th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CoE against recent decisions

:( I need to sleep I guess I'll try to fix that tomorrow. On 10/29/2017 10:02 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: Also, ATMunn, those IDs have been used (well, apparently not actually, but I attempted to use them and changing it now would be confusing). Only the Promotor can identify a proposal anyway, I

DIS: Re: BUS: CoE against recent decisions

Also, ATMunn, those IDs have been used (well, apparently not actually, but I attempted to use them and changing it now would be confusing). Only the Promotor can identify a proposal anyway, I think. -Aris On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 6:59 PM Alexis Hunt wrote: > It appears that recent Agoran decisio

DIS: Re: OFF: [Regkeepor] ACORN

Didn't o promulgate a regulation setting the weekly contract limit at 3? On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > The ACORN (Agora Nomic Code of Regulations) > > == > TITLE 0 > Contains no regulations, and is rese

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] SLR

On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 at 21:02 Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Sun, 29 Oct 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > NOTE: I have rewrapped all of the rules to 72 characters, in the raw > > files, I hope this is improved. > > Appreciated, but not quite on. The dividing lines are at 70, and in > the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: more scary stuff

Ahh, my bad. Thanks. On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 at 21:04 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Sun, 29 Oct 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 at 15:48 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I submit the first following proposal, "Zombie Auctions", AI-1 as > part > > of the Fearmongor's Monthly Duties.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: more scary stuff

On Sun, 29 Oct 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 at 15:48 Kerim Aydin wrote: > I submit the first following proposal, "Zombie Auctions", AI-1 as part > of the Fearmongor's Monthly Duties. > > > Haven't you already done the Fearmongor's duties this month?  I submitted

DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] SLR

On Sun, 29 Oct 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > NOTE: I have rewrapped all of the rules to 72 characters, in the raw > files, I hope this is improved. Appreciated, but not quite on. The dividing lines are at 70, and in the first rule, this is the first line that hits 75, can't tel

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal & CFJs (rather frivolous)

On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 2:03 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > I also call a much more straightforward CFJ with shinies donated to > charity on the following statement: "Judicial Activism: the Contract > has 'fulfilled its purpose, does not specify any gamestate affecting > statements, or otherwise seems unlik

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3576 assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus (Gaelan recused)

At the very least, I need to know what numbers were assigned to each CFJ sooner rather than later. On 2017-10-30 11:17, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 30 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: COE: none of those assignments went through (as you know) I'm going to wait on the response to this - sometimes omd

Re: DIS: Draft: [Proposal] Auctions

Thanks for this, Aris. Comments on your comments below. On 10/29/2017 6:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 7:01 PM, ATMunn wrote: The draft of my long-awaited (not really) auctions proposal is finally finished. Here it is in all its glory (not really): You're doing a thing w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3576 assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus (Gaelan recused)

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > COE: none of those assignments went through (as you know) > I'm going to wait on the response to this - sometimes omd clears the spam filters and flushes a bunch of messages out, then we can have a nice argument about datestamps again.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: A Fearmongor's Halloween - braaains

Yeah I'm surprised that the pun clause is so open-ended, given that one can make *really long* shaggy-dog stories that end in hideous puns. On Mon, 30 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > > Oh sorry, it's under the truly hideous pun clause. I'm sorry. > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:12 AM, VJ Rada wrote:

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: A Fearmongor's Halloween - braaains

No it's ok, the proposal works and is fine, and Alexis is next week's silly person. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Madeline wrote: > Actually I've got a plan just give me 40 minutes > > > > On 2017-10-30 10:14, VJ Rada wrote: >> >> Oh sorry, it's under the truly hideous pun clause. I'm sorry.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: A Fearmongor's Halloween - braaains

Actually I've got a plan just give me 40 minutes On 2017-10-30 10:14, VJ Rada wrote: Oh sorry, it's under the truly hideous pun clause. I'm sorry. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:12 AM, VJ Rada wrote: A joke though. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:12 AM, VJ Rada wrote: The proposal needs to be

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: A Fearmongor's Halloween - braaains

Oh sorry, it's under the truly hideous pun clause. I'm sorry. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:12 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > A joke though. > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:12 AM, VJ Rada wrote: >> The proposal needs to be a joke of less than 100 words, this is 213. >> You have 42 minutes to make a new pr

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: A Fearmongor's Halloween - braaains

A joke though. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:12 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > The proposal needs to be a joke of less than 100 words, this is 213. > You have 42 minutes to make a new proposal or break the rules. I > believe in youu. Even though you can't send > mesages. > > On Mon

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3576 assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus (Gaelan recused)

Those assignments definitely seem to be gone, or at least mine. It's been a good hour at this point... Are you able to just post them again? On 2017-10-30 08:48, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 30 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: I received this message, G, and the assignment to PSS and the notification

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: A Fearmongor's Halloween - braaains

The proposal needs to be a joke of less than 100 words, this is 213. You have 42 minutes to make a new proposal or break the rules. I believe in youu. Even though you can't send mesages. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Madeline wrote: > We should make it easier to uninte

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: A Fearmongor's Halloween - braaains

We should make it easier to unintentionally create pledges On 2017-10-30 06:21, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Sun, 29 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: I'll give you a million dollars if you can get this done with your silly proposal this week Challenge accepted. I submit the following (Silly) proposal, "Bo

Re: DIS: Draft: [Proposal] Auctions

On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Nic Evans wrote: >> Hot-take proto: Make contract membership cards an asset that can only be >> voluntarily received. > > The beautiful thing about contracts is that they can do this > themselves if they want

Re: DIS: Draft: [Proposal] Auctions

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > Hot-take proto: Make contract membership cards an asset that can only be > voluntarily received. The beautiful thing about contracts is that they can do this themselves if they want to. Oh, they can't say that if you have a card you're a member,

Re: DIS: Draft: [Proposal] Auctions

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 7:01 PM, ATMunn wrote: > The draft of my long-awaited (not really) auctions proposal is finally > finished. > Here it is in all its glory (not really): You're doing a thing where each sentence is on its own line. They should preferably be in paragraphs. > Title: Auctions

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3576 assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus (Gaelan recused)

I received this. On 10/29/2017 05:41 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Test: I have sent several messages (including CFJ assignments) that > seem to have been eaten in the last hour. Testing with a reply to > someone else's message. > > On Mon, 30 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: >> I file a motion to recons

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3576 assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus (Gaelan recused)

I received this message, G, and the assignment to PSS and the notification to Alexis. Otherwise, none, no. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Test: I have sent several messages (including CFJ assignments) that > seem to have been eaten in the last hour. Testing with a rep

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3576 assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus (Gaelan recused)

Too late, Aris got there. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:40 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > I file a motion to reconsider. Supporters are PSS & Alexis. > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:34 AM, VJ Rada wrote: >> I support >> >> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: >>> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 at 16:51 Pub

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3576 assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus (Gaelan recused)

NTTPF On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't fully understand the issue. I support. > > > On 10/29/2017 05:07 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 at 16:51 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >> >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3576 assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus (Gaelan recused)

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't fully understand the issue. I support. On 10/29/2017 05:07 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 at 16:51 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > wrote: > > I judge CFJ 3576 TRUE because the document in question was clear

DIS: Re: BUS: more scary stuff

On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 at 15:48 Kerim Aydin wrote: > I submit the first following proposal, "Zombie Auctions", AI-1 as part > of the Fearmongor's Monthly Duties. > Haven't you already done the Fearmongor's duties this month?

Re: DIS: question for Rulekeepor candidate Alexis

I haven't; I'm currently working through cleaning up the history data, discovering that the requirements regarding what must go in the FLR are poorly written (for reasons I'll explain alongside a fix proposal once I decide what the fix should be), and then working on new formatting code. On Sun, 2

DIS: question for Rulekeepor candidate Alexis

Rulekeepor Candidate Alexis, Have you published a draft SLR or FLR? I've seen the other candidates' contributions. (sorry if I''ve missed yours!) -G.

Re: DIS: Draft: [Proposal] Auctions

Thanks for the feedback. I think I'll wait to make a new draft until more people give feedback, though. On 10/27/2017 10:48 PM, Nic Evans wrote: Overall I like the bones of this. Notes sprinkled throughout. On 10/27/17 21:01, ATMunn wrote: The draft of my long-awaited (not really) auctions pr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] FV Restoration

I point the finger at Aris for failing to distribute the below proposal. On 10/29/2017 3:34 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: I missed this. I'll distribute it with my proposal pool, which may be a little late (please don't point a finger at me anyone), but should be coming out in the next ~24 hours. -A

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] The Honour Role

Who is Japan and when did e get a karma? On 10/28/2017 10:57 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > The Honour Roll > [Herald's Weekly Report] > > > KarmaEntity >+4 o<-- SHOGUN >+3 ATMunn >

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal & CFJs (rather frivolous)

I also call a much more straightforward CFJ with shinies donated to charity on the following statement: "Judicial Activism: the Contract has 'fulfilled its purpose, does not specify any gamestate affecting statements, or otherwise seems unlikely to be used' (quote from rule 2522)". This is a very

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] FV Restoration

Just noting that my policy, unlike o's, is to keep track more closely of missed obligations, and I now am aware of this possible one. I cannot see myself imposing anything other than a green card here, however. On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > I missed this. I'll distribut

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] FV Restoration

I missed this. I'll distribute it with my proposal pool, which may be a little late (please don't point a finger at me anyone), but should be coming out in the next ~24 hours. -Aris On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 11:44 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > I submit the following proposal, and spend 2 sh. to pend

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Contract

I'm a bit wary of it. If my suggestion about requiring proposals to have some votes is implemented, the proposals will probably all be real proposals. If there are only a few more of them, than I'm just doing my regular job (not that I'd object to a proper pay raise). If the contract ends up creati

DIS: Re: BUS: New Contract

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 8:45 PM, Josh T wrote: > I create the following contract, titled "Order of the Occult Hand", by > paying Agora 1 Shiny: > {{{ > The player 天火狐 is the proprietor of the Order of the Occult Hand. The > proprietor CAN make amendments to this contract by announcing eir intent t

Re: DIS: A Fearmongor's Halloween - braaains

I'll give you a million dollars if you can get this done with your silly proposal this week On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 12:19 AM, ATMunn wrote: > haha this is great, I like it. > > > On 10/25/2017 10:00 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> >> [OK, you folks with your forced deregistrations by proposal are