Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8277-8279

2019-12-28 Thread Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion
On Sun, 29 Dec 2019, AIS523--- via agora-discussion wrote: Ørjan's issue is that e believes a single ratification can't make retroactive changes at two different points in past time. I suppose that's a simple way of putting it, except I'd use "simulate" instead of "make". Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8277-8279

2019-12-28 Thread AIS523--- via agora-discussion
On Sat, 2019-12-28 at 18:48 -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > So, just to be clear here, we’re going to ratify the claim that a-o > and a-b stopped being public fora at the start time and resumed being > public fora at the end time? I’m good with that. Ørjan's issue is that e

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8277-8279

2019-12-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 6:45 PM Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sun, 29 Dec 2019, AIS523--- via agora-discussion wrote: > > > On Sun, 2019-12-29 at 03:32 +0100, Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion > wrote: > >> The simplest way I can see to fix

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8277-8279

2019-12-28 Thread Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion
On Sun, 29 Dec 2019, AIS523--- via agora-discussion wrote: On Sun, 2019-12-29 at 03:32 +0100, Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion wrote: The simplest way I can see to fix this is to pair each dubious email with its own ratifying document, specifying the date stamp of the message as the time it

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8277-8279

2019-12-28 Thread AIS523--- via agora-discussion
On Sun, 2019-12-29 at 03:32 +0100, Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion wrote: > Rule 1551 states: > >the gamestate is modified > to what it would be if, at the time the ratified document was > published, the gamestate had been

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8277-8279

2019-12-28 Thread Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion
Rule 1551 states: the gamestate is modified to what it would be if, at the time the ratified document was published, the gamestate had been minimally modified to make the ratified document as true and accurate as possible;

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8277-8279

2019-12-28 Thread AIS523--- via agora-discussion
On Sat, 2019-12-28 at 17:32 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > (If Rance is a deciding vote on either of these, it may create a > paradox, since one of the messages in question takes Rance away from > me. I can't resist, really). Wouldn't the paradox just cause the ratification to

Re: DIS: Research Question

2019-12-28 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 12/28/2019 2:34 PM, AIS523--- via agora-discussion wrote: On Sat, 2019-12-28 at 14:11 -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: I seem to recall hearing once about an incident where a person attempted to register as a player twice concurrently under different names. Does anyone know

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8277

2019-12-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Whoops. That error is in my latest distribution too. Sorry all. -Aris On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 3:40 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 12/19/19 1:38 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the > > quorum is 3 > > > I think quorum was 4,

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8277

2019-12-28 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 12/19/19 1:38 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 3 I think quorum was 4, since 8276 had 6 voters; although I don't think it actually matters whether it was 3 or 4, since 4 people voted. -- Jason Cobb

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Resolve the troubles

2019-12-28 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 12/28/19 3:49 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: ~~~ Each of the following messages was effectively sent to the Public Forum on or about the Date: stamp shown in the archives. Claims within these messages (in particular, claims to perform actions) may still be ineffective for other

Re: DIS: Research Question

2019-12-28 Thread AIS523--- via agora-discussion
On Sat, 2019-12-28 at 14:11 -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > I seem to recall hearing once about an incident where a person > attempted to register as a player twice concurrently under different > names. Does anyone know where that precedent can be found? It's > relevant to a

Re: DIS: Research Question

2019-12-28 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 12/28/19 5:11 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: I seem to recall hearing once about an incident where a person attempted to register as a player twice concurrently under different names. Does anyone know where that precedent can be found? It's relevant to a thesis that I'm

DIS: Research Question

2019-12-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
I seem to recall hearing once about an incident where a person attempted to register as a player twice concurrently under different names. Does anyone know where that precedent can be found? It's relevant to a thesis that I'm thinking of writing. -Aris

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Resolve the troubles

2019-12-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 1:07 PM Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > > Aris wrote: > > > All of the messages having been sent to the public forum would apparently > > stop me from being PM (see the recent thread). In general, it seems unfair > > to have changes to the gamestate occurring

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Resolve the troubles

2019-12-28 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
Aris wrote: All of the messages having been sent to the public forum would apparently stop me from being PM (see the recent thread). In general, it seems unfair to have changes to the gamestate occurring without a significant number of people being apprised of them. I’d urge going the other

DIS: Re: BUS: PM Candidacy

2019-12-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:55 PM Edward Murphy via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Jason Cobb wrote: > > > On 12/28/19 3:04 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > >> I wrote: > >> > >>> If the above initiation was effective, then I resolve it: Falsifian is > >>>

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Resolve the troubles

2019-12-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
All of the messages having been sent to the public forum would apparently stop me from being PM (see the recent thread). In general, it seems unfair to have changes to the gamestate occurring without a significant number of people being apprised of them. I’d urge going the other direction, and