DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] ACORN - 4 Jul 2020

2020-07-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 9:16 PM Jason Cobb via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > THE AGORA NOMIC CODE OF REGULATIONS > > These ACORNs are also online at http://agoranomic.org/ruleset/ > > Date of this ACORN: 5 Jul 2020 Soft CoE: This doesn't include the footnotes. The map f

DIS: Re: [Contract amendment] BUS: [Dragon] Faster Ordinary Proposals

2020-07-03 Thread omd via agora-discussion
at 8:33 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: An Ordinary Proposal has approval if the number of shares owned by members voting FOR it is greater than the number of Unsupportive players. So is this a scam or just a mistake? :) (Signed, a mere onlooker.)

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration - Fred

2020-07-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 7:00 PM, Ca B via agora-business wrote: > I register. My preferred name is Fred. Welcome! We have an unofficial Discord guild at [0], if you would like to join. [0]: https://discord.gg/JCC6YGc -- Jason Cobb

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] No July zombie auction

2020-07-03 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-04 2:49 a.m., Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/3/20 10:48 PM, Becca Lee via agora-business wrote: i intendto flip eirmaster switch to agora That might not be resolvable in four days because of talismans. Good point! I intend to flip Telnaior's master switch to Agora wi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] No July zombie auction

2020-07-03 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
Sorry to be pedantic, but R2595 says you have to unambiguously, clearly etc specify the method to be used, which in this case is with notice. - Falsifian On 2020-07-04 2:48 a.m., Becca Lee via agora-business wrote: i intendto flip eirmaster switch to agora On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 12:48 PM Fals

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] No July zombie auction

2020-07-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 10:48 PM, Becca Lee via agora-business wrote: > i intendto flip eirmaster switch to agora That might not be resolvable in four days because of talismans. -- Jason Cobb

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] No July zombie auction

2020-07-03 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-04 2:26 a.m., Becca Lee via agora-business wrote: i flip telnaiors master switch to agora It's done with notice, so that didn't work. -- Falsifian

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration - Fred

2020-07-03 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 9:32 PM, Fred via agora-discussion wrote: > I have four midterms this coming week so I'll hold off this time around. > Thank you for the invite though! > > > Generally speaking, are tournaments a good way to get a feel for things? Tournaments are fairly rare events. This one is in celebr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration - Fred

2020-07-03 Thread Fred via agora-discussion
I have four midterms this coming week so I'll hold off this time around. Thank you for the invite though! Generally speaking, are tournaments a good way to get a feel for things? On 2020-07-03 6:23 p.m., Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: On 2020-07-03 11:00 p.m., Ca B via agora-business w

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Second draft of auction regulations

2020-07-03 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
Looks mostly good. We should probably require lot winners to pay their bid. I don't know if SHALLs in these regulations are enforceable, but might as well try. (If we're going to do that, I guess that would entail REQUIRE-ing bidders in sealed bid auctions to reveal their bids?) Some more co

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Agoran Directory

2020-07-03 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
On 7/3/2020 9:46 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/3/20 9:45 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/3/20 9:43 PM, Falsifian via agora-official wrote: Zombie master and resale value switches (self-ratifying)     Resale   Last owned    Due to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Upvotes

2020-07-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/3/2020 5:48 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > at 5:19 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion > wrote: >>> An asset generally CAN be transferred (syn. given) by announcement >>> by its owner to another entity, subject to modification by its >>> backing document. A fixed a

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Agoran Directory

2020-07-03 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
Same thing happened with me. Something weird must have happened with the mailing list. On 7/3/2020 9:46 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/3/20 9:45 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/3/20 9:43 PM, Falsifian via agora-official wrote: Zombie master and resale value sw

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Agoran Directory

2020-07-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 9:45 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 7/3/20 9:43 PM, Falsifian via agora-official wrote: >>> Zombie master and resale value switches (self-ratifying) >>> >>>   Resale   Last owned    Due to flip >>> Zombie Master value    by Agora  

DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Agoran Directory

2020-07-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 9:43 PM, Falsifian via agora-official wrote: >> Zombie master and resale value switches (self-ratifying) >> >>   Resale   Last owned    Due to flip >> Zombie Master value    by Agora  to Agora >> -- -- ---  -

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration - Fred

2020-07-03 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-03 11:00 p.m., Ca B via agora-business wrote: I register. My preferred name is Fred. Welcome to Agora, Fred. There's a lot going on right now. If you like Diplomacy and expect to have a lot of time on your hands over the next few weeks, I think there's still room to sign up for ye

Re: DIS: I'm stupid, and we've got a problem.

2020-07-03 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-03 10:20 p.m., Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: I think that we have time to fix this during the joining period, but I'm not sure what the best solution is, so I'm seeking thoughts on the best solution, and I have a few days to propose a specific fix. As it s

Re: Fwd: Fwd: DIS: Re: BUS: is this too morbid?

2020-07-03 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
How about a version that says "a player can't cease being a person while they are a player"? Then we could respectfully deregister someone if the worst happens and not worry too much about 'forever'. -G. That would solve most recordkeeping problems, but it would still mean Tailor and Referee r

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Upvotes

2020-07-03 Thread omd via agora-discussion
at 5:21 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: I'm not sure whether this is enough to have R1586 automatically transfer switch karma to asset karma. Fair point. I’ll change it to be more explicit before pending this (if I ever get enough cards to pend anything, anyway :).

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Upvotes

2020-07-03 Thread omd via agora-discussion
at 5:19 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: An asset generally CAN be transferred (syn. given) by announcement by its owner to another entity, subject to modification by its backing document. A fixed asset is one defined as such by its backing document, and CANNOT

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Upvotes

2020-07-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 7:32 PM, omd via agora-business wrote: > Multiply all positive Karma values by 3 (to compensate existing Karma holders > for expected inflation). Replace all negative Karma values with 0 (because > Karma will become a currency). > > Amend Rule 2510 (Such is Karma) to read: > >Kar

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Upvotes

2020-07-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 8:17 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >>Up to once per week, each player CAN grant a specified other >>player 1 Karma by announcement. A player CAN also transfer any >>amount of eir own Karma to another player by announcement. In >>both cases,

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Upvotes

2020-07-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/3/2020 4:32 PM, omd via agora-business wrote: > Proposal: Upvotes (AI=1) > { > > Multiply all positive Karma values by 3 (to compensate existing Karma holders > for expected inflation). Replace all negative Karma values with 0 (because > Karma will become a currency). > > Amend Rule 2510

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Upvotes

2020-07-03 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 7:32 PM, omd via agora-business wrote: > Proposal: Upvotes (AI=1) I think I'll probably vote PRESENT or AGAINST on this because I like the status quo, but I really appreciate the work you've put into this well thought out alternative. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Ref

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Upvotes

2020-07-03 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
My initial reaction was a sort of "but the balanced system!" But after reading your arguments, I think this is a good idea to shake things up. On 7/3/2020 7:32 PM, omd via agora-business wrote: Proposal: Upvotes (AI=1) { Multiply all positive Karma values by 3 (to compensate existing Karma hol

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration - Fred

2020-07-03 Thread Ca B via agora-discussion
Thanks, ATMunn! On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 4:02 PM ATMunn via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Welcome, Fred! I cause Fred to receive a Welcome Package if e has not > received one already. > > On 7/3/2020 7:00 PM, Ca B via agora-business wrote: > > I register. My preferred na

Re: DIS: wait what now?

2020-07-03 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
Oh. I guess I did. Don't even remember that, lol. I think that must have been one of those times where I only came back for a very brief period before things got busy and I stopped playing again. On 7/3/2020 6:38 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/3/2020 2:45 PM, ATMunn via agora-

Re: DIS: wait what now?

2020-07-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/3/2020 2:45 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > I was scrolling through the CFJ archives and found this: > > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3722 > > And this message's subject line was basically my reaction. > > Apparently I "was indisputably Prime Minister" at one

DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: Birthday Tournament Regulations v1.1

2020-07-03 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
On 7/3/2020 6:19 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 3:09 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: On 7/3/20 6:00 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-official wrote: I resolve the below intent, enacting and promulgating t

DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: Birthday Tournament Regulations v1.1

2020-07-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/3/2020 3:19 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 3:09 PM Jason Cobb wrote: >> On 7/3/20 6:00 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-official >> wrote: >>> I resolve the below intent, enacting and promulgating the below >> regulations. >> >> >> I enter t

DIS: I'm stupid, and we've got a problem.

2020-07-03 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
I think that we have time to fix this during the joining period, but I'm not sure what the best solution is, so I'm seeking thoughts on the best solution, and I have a few days to propose a specific fix. As it stands, all of the provisions relating to amendment don't work because of the following c

DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: Birthday Tournament Regulations v1.1

2020-07-03 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 6:06 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > On 7/3/2020 3:00 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >>> 1. Until July 7 or 7 days after the promulgation of these regulations, >>> whichever is later, any person CAN enter the contest (becoming a >>> Contestant) by announcement,

DIS: [@nobody this subject line was too long] referee CFJs

2020-07-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/3/2020 2:55 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticuswrote: > On 7/3/20 5:39 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> On 7/2/20 6:15 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: CFJ, submitted to Referee: The above-quoted attempt to pay cards on nch’s behalf was unsuc

DIS: wait what now?

2020-07-03 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
I was scrolling through the CFJ archives and found this: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3722 And this message's subject line was basically my reaction. Apparently I "was indisputably Prime Minister" at one point while I was a zombie. Like what? how? Can somebody give me so

Re: Fwd: Fwd: DIS: Re: BUS: is this too morbid?

2020-07-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/3/2020 1:33 PM, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2020-07-03 7:56 p.m., Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 7/3/2020 12:24 PM, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: >>> Maybe worth also mentioning: back in February I tried to patch over >>> this problem with Proposal 8328

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3860 judged FALSE

2020-07-03 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
On 7/3/2020 5:09 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/3/2020 1:45 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: Even if it turns out my arguments are terrible and it gets reconsidered, I'm glad I put the effort into it. At a first read, this looks comprehensive and well-done. Thanks for p

Re: DIS: Re: [Treasuror] Reward Re: BUS: CFJ 3860 judged FALSE

2020-07-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/3/2020 2:18 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > On 7/3/20 5:15 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >> >> Signalling question: I've been interpreting [Treasusor] subject lines as >> things that are strictly *from* the treasuror (as opposed to [attn. >> Treasuror]). Is that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-07-03 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 4:20 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 7/3/20 5:14 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 7/3/20 5:14 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On 7/3/20 4:02 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: On 6/30/20 10:26 AM, Becca Lee via agor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-07-03 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 5:14 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 7/3/20 5:14 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 7/3/20 4:02 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >>> On 6/30/20 10:26 AM, Becca Lee via agora-business wrote: I COE the most recent proposal assessment:

Re: DIS: Re: [Treasuror] Reward Re: BUS: CFJ 3860 judged FALSE

2020-07-03 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 4:15 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > Signalling question: I've been interpreting [Treasusor] subject lines as > things that are strictly *from* the treasuror (as opposed to [attn. > Treasuror]). Is that the best way to distinguish - in particular are > officers searching

Re: DIS: Re: [Treasuror] Reward Re: BUS: CFJ 3860 judged FALSE

2020-07-03 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 5:15 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > Signalling question: I've been interpreting [Treasusor] subject lines as > things that are strictly *from* the treasuror (as opposed to [attn. > Treasuror]). Is that the best way to distinguish - in particular are > officers searchin

DIS: Re: [Treasuror] Reward Re: BUS: CFJ 3860 judged FALSE

2020-07-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
Signalling question: I've been interpreting [Treasusor] subject lines as things that are strictly *from* the treasuror (as opposed to [attn. Treasuror]). Is that the best way to distinguish - in particular are officers searching for [Officer] but not [attn. Officer]? -G.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-07-03 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 5:14 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 7/3/20 4:02 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> On 6/30/20 10:26 AM, Becca Lee via agora-business wrote: >>> I COE the most recent proposal assessment: you missed a vote by G. in >>> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/priva

DIS: Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-07-03 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 4:02 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 6/30/20 10:26 AM, Becca Lee via agora-business wrote: >> I COE the most recent proposal assessment: you missed a vote by G. in >> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-June/043813.html > > Pursuant to

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3860 judged FALSE

2020-07-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/3/2020 1:45 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: > Even if it turns out > my arguments are terrible and it gets reconsidered, I'm glad I put the > effort into it. At a first read, this looks comprehensive and well-done. Thanks for putting in the substantial effort when you could have just

DIS: Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-07-03 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 5:02 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 6/30/20 10:26 AM, Becca Lee via agora-business wrote: >> I COE the most recent proposal assessment: you missed a vote by G. in >> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-June/043813.html > > > Pursuant

Re: Fwd: Fwd: DIS: Re: BUS: is this too morbid?

2020-07-03 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
Maybe we should go with our suggested text. *your -- Falsifian

Re: Fwd: Fwd: DIS: Re: BUS: is this too morbid?

2020-07-03 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-03 7:56 p.m., Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/3/2020 12:24 PM, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: Maybe worth also mentioning: back in February I tried to patch over this problem with Proposal 8328, The Eternal Sprit [sic... didn't notice the typo until now] Proposal

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Draft Judgement of CFJ 3860

2020-07-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/3/2020 1:22 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > I have looked at all the CFJs involved and your gratuitous arguments and > am ready to deliver my judgement. Am I good to do so? no reason why not from here

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Draft Judgement of CFJ 3860

2020-07-03 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
I have looked at all the CFJs involved and your gratuitous arguments and am ready to deliver my judgement. Am I good to do so? On 7/2/2020 3:32 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: On 7/2/2020 11:41 AM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: So where this sort of thing got judged or entered

Re: Fwd: Fwd: DIS: Re: BUS: is this too morbid?

2020-07-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/3/2020 12:24 PM, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > Maybe worth also mentioning: back in February I tried to patch over > this problem with Proposal 8328, The Eternal Sprit [sic... didn't > notice the typo until now] > > Proposal text was 'Amend Rule 869 by replacing the text "is a per

Re: [Attn. Referee] Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal 8458 (Third time's the charm)

2020-07-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/1/2020 8:24 PM, omd via agora-business wrote: > “Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a > locked > filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying > ‘Beware of the Leopard.” [Just entering the case now]. Funnily enough, in

Fwd: Fwd: DIS: Re: BUS: is this too morbid?

2020-07-03 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 19:42, James Cook wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 12:00 PM ATMunn via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: I feel like I vaguely recall this being discussed at some point previously, but I thought I would go for it anyways. I initiate a Call for Judge

DIS: Re: BUS: New email address

2020-07-03 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
Finally, no more confusion between James Cook and Jason Cobb. :P On 7/3/2020 2:32 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: I'm going to start using this email address (ag...@falsifian.org). I don't mind if people still contact me at jc...@cs.berkeley.edu, but consider ag...@falsifian.org the de

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3854 Judged DISMISS by Murphy

2020-07-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/3/2020 10:50 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On 7/3/2020 10:41 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote: >> What's the Annabel Crisis? > > - A person registered under the name Annabel, did not much for a month or > so, then deregistered. > > - ~6 months later, a long-time player (Maud) confesse

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3854 Judged DISMISS by Murphy

2020-07-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/3/2020 10:41 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote: > What's the Annabel Crisis? - A person registered under the name Annabel, did not much for a month or so, then deregistered. - ~6 months later, a long-time player (Maud) confessed that e had been Annabel. - It was decided that Anna

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3854 Judged DISMISS by Murphy

2020-07-03 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
What's the Annabel Crisis? On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 7:20 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3854 > (This document is informational only and contains no game actions). > > =

Re: DIS: Draft Judgement of CFJ 3860

2020-07-03 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
On 7/3/2020 11:26 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/3/2020 8:14 AM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: Maybe I'm misreading it, but I dug up the judgements for both of these CFJs and it seems to me that neither attempt actually worked. On 7/2/2020 1:55 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-

Re: DIS: Draft Judgement of CFJ 3860

2020-07-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/3/2020 8:14 AM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > Maybe I'm misreading it, but I dug up the judgements for both of these > CFJs and it seems to me that neither attempt actually worked. > > On 7/2/2020 1:55 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >> 3667 found that non-quotes buried

Re: DIS: Draft Judgement of CFJ 3860

2020-07-03 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
Maybe I'm misreading it, but I dug up the judgements for both of these CFJs and it seems to me that neither attempt actually worked. On 7/2/2020 1:55 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: 3667 found that non-quotes buried in quotes worked. 3676 found that putting it actually *in* the quot