DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6344-6354

2009-06-10 Thread Ed Murphy
Sgeo wrote: 6345 D 2 3.0 Pavitra Time travel >>> FOR, unless there's reason to believe that this can hurt Agora. > I change this vote to FOR. Ineffective, you can't directly change a vote.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Quick Appointments

2009-06-10 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > IMO, Distributability hasn't been anywhere near as much of a disaster as > Committees were. My sense about it at the moment is that the idea is > worthwhile but the implementation is lacking; I'm not entirely sure how > best to improve it, though. (Someone invent Distrib-u-matics a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: No More Distributability

2009-06-10 Thread Ed Murphy
Tiger wrote: > 2009/6/10 Benjamin Caplan : >> Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: I act on behalf of coppro to support this. I act on behalf of Pavitra to support this. I act on behalf of zeckalpha to support this. Having received sufficient support, I m

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Quick Appointments

2009-06-09 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > I'm under the impression that distributability is essentially dead in > the water -- people may generally disagree on where to go next, but I do > think that by-announcement is at least clearly not worse than > with-3-support. The last time I remember distributability working mor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Quick Appointments

2009-06-09 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >>> Wooble wrote: >>> >>>> I haven't been around for nearly that long, but I always assumed it >>>> was a Drew Carey reference. >>> It was.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Quick Appointments

2009-06-09 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > I haven't been around for nearly that long, but I always assumed it > was a Drew Carey reference. It was.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Conductor] Lead Sheet

2009-06-08 Thread Ed Murphy
Tiger wrote: > Okay, so I've run into a problem. The report published on 19 May has > self-ratified. Some monthly duties for May were performed in the time > between 1 and 17 May, earned notes for their performers at that time > (incorrectly). So Herald Gravity, Notary ais523 and Rulekeepor comex

DIS: Re: BUS: [Scorekeepor] Contestmaster Awards

2009-06-08 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: > I don't see a claim from Murphy on FRC and Cookie Jar, so I am not > awarding contestmaster points for these at this time. http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2009-June/020746.html

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6344-6354

2009-06-08 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Sgeo wrote: 6345 D 2 3.0 Pavitra Time travel >>> FOR, unless there's reason to believe that this can hurt Agora. > > H. Assessor: please evaluate this as a conditional vote evaluating to no vote > :P Done, on the grounds of insuff

DIS: Re: BUS: [Airstrip One] Flight Schedule

2009-06-07 Thread Ed Murphy
c-walker wrote: > On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Ed Murphy <mailto:emurph...@socal.rr.com>> wrote: > > Flight Schedule > > > If I haven't already, I join this contract. It lets you, but you don't need to; props are available to all first-class pl

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2544 assigned to Tiger

2009-06-07 Thread Ed Murphy
Tiger wrote: > That's what I hoped. Otherwise I would have tried to get the panel to > not remand. Panels have generally interpreted "I don't want it back" as making REMAND clearly inappropriate, on the grounds that the prior judge would evidently not do a better job.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Cookie Jar] Report

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
allispaul wrote: > I guess 20 CFJs and 9 proposals. NttPF

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: > Please! Trim these messages before responding. Or at least quote using > so my QuoteCollapse add-on will work.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2553, 2556 assigned to Rodlen

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Rodlen > wrote: > > I judge both CFJ 2553 and CFJ 2556 TRUE. [snip] > I intend, with two support, to appeal this judgement. As "when pigs fly" Which one? I'm treating this as ineffective due to ambiguity, though of

DIS: Re: Fwd: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2569 assigned to Wooble

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
zeckalpha wrote: > I appeal based on the following: You need 2 support (unilateral appeal only works for criminal and equity cases).

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2544 assigned to Tiger

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Tiger wrote: > 2009/6/7 Benjamin Caplan : >> Geoffrey Spear wrote: >>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Jonatan >>> Kilhamn wrote: I really couldn't find any other way of reading that rule that made as much sense as the one I ruled about. Your alleged office is part of your alleged i

DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > Sean Hunt wrote: >> I guess 7 proposals and 13 CFJs for next week. > 5 proposals, 10 CFJs. This was ttPF but you already guessed on June 2.

DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Tiger wrote: > I reatract my previous guesses and guess 11 proposals and 9 CFJs. The contract doesn't recognize retraction. Feel free to propose changing that; it would change the dynamic somewhat.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Tiger wrote: > If I haven't already guessed, I guess 10 proposals, 19 CFJs NttPF and you also already guessed on June 2.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > I guess 10 proposals and 10 CFJs. And you guessed already on June 2, anyway.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > I guess 10 proposals and 10 CFJs. NttPF

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: s/object/either

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > I support. NttPF

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > I appeal this judgment. > > > This appeal seems to have been ignored by the CotC. I had the message filed in a might-appeal-with-support subfolder, had missed that you appealed unilaterally. Will process later tonight.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: s/object/either

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: >> A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Distributable with >> 3 support, or without objection, or by spending 1 Note. > > Why bother with distributability then. -G. To avoid going through the motions for

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2555 assigned to BobTHJ

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: > I recuse myself from this case and (if possible) increase it's > interest index to 2. Doing it directly requires without N objections [R2225(1)], but its II was 1 and your rank is 1 so your recusal had the side effect of increasing its II [R2225(2)].

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2569 assigned to Wooble

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > 2009/6/6 Geoffrey Spear : >> I personally believe that if time did have a beginning it was more than >> 100 years ago that it began > > Around 6000 FYI. OVER 9000

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > This is ridiculously easy money. Only if your guess is one of the closest. The more contestants, the larger the prize, but the less likely (assuming all guesses are equally likely to be accurate) that any given player will get it.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2537 assigned to OscarMeyr

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: > Er, looks like arguments leaped in from a different case starting halfway > down... Hopefully OscarMeyr isn't required to make sense of those... :) Not sure how that happened, but in any case 2537 and 2545 have been fixed in the DB.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2547 assigned to G.

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: >> == CFJ 2547 == >> >>Yally created a pledge in the above message >> >> &g

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Speedy trials?

2009-06-05 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > 2009/6/5 Kerim Aydin : >> On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: >>> 2009/6/5 Ed Murphy : >>>> "Legitimately" as in you overlooked a message? >>>> >>>> http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-05 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: >> Irresistable. I transfer a prop from G. to Murphy (sorry, nothing personal). > > If I have not already done so this week, I transfer a from coppro to > ehird because ditto. -G. You did transfer one from coppro to ais523 on June 1 for nickna

DIS: Re: BUS: Senators

2009-06-05 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > I intend, without 2 objections, to flip the II of the Promotor office > to 3. Distributability on its own, IMO, warrants this change; > messages like this one make it even more appropriate. > > > I object. Any particular reason?

Re: DIS: Another inactivity mechanism

2009-06-05 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > I don't see the purpose of the new class of proposals. Take the other > two points (Savages CANNOT vote on democratic proposals, nonvoters CAN > be ensavaged by announcement) and add that a Savage CAN become Epsilon > by announcement provided e votes in the same message. s/a Sava

DIS: Re: BUS: Speedy trials?

2009-06-05 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > 2009/6/5 Geoffrey Spear : >> I publish an NoV alleging that You May Call Me Big Fucking Edward >> violated the Power 2 Rule 2158 by failing to assign a judgement to CFJ >> 2537 as soon as possible after it was assigned to em. > > I contest this as I was legitimately unaware; feel f

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Alex Smith wrote: >> The speed of an internet connection is not just to do with how fast it >> is at the ends, but also how fast it is in the middle, which tends to >> depend more on politics between the various companies involved in the >> Internet than any goo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Inactivation

2009-06-04 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Benjamin Caplan wrote: >>> Legislature is a player switch with values Quoredupon and Unquoredfor >>> (default). A player CAN flip eir Legislature to Unquoredfor by >>> announcement. A player CAN flip eir Legislature to Quoredupon by >>> su

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Ed Murphy
teucer wrote: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/list.php?caller=Craig >> > > The server is taking too long to respond. It responded to me within 2 seconds (but then it's less than 50 feet away from me so YMMV).

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Ed Murphy
teucer wrote: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Oh hey you're that Craig? I remember your CFJs fondly. -G. >> > > Huh. I don't remember them at all. But yes, I'm the same Craig. > > > > ...how bad were they? http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/list.php?caller=Craig (I'

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-04 Thread Ed Murphy
zeckalpha wrote: > I was 2 when Agora was born... has there been a player younger than Agora? I believe ehird was the first to mention holding that status.

DIS: Re: BUS: Lurking

2009-06-04 Thread Ed Murphy
allispaul wrote: > Please respond if you believe you deserve the Patent Title of Not A > Lurker. I'll resubmit when I have a more complete list. I'm pretty sure I registered as soon as I found Agora - and was promptly saddled with CFJ 847, on which I defaulted. (CFJs 846-848, and probably some

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
teucer wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: >> You never registered, at least not recently. > > I believed I registered on January 3, and was immediately NOV'd for IIRC you are also the "Craig" that was registered from 25 Apr 02 to 9 Mar 03.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
teucer wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: >> I call a CFJ on the statement: "Luke Lockhart is a player." >> > > Having restored my playerhood, I do so again, probably efficaciously this > time. It was effective the first time. You can retract the second case.

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > I initiate an election to decide the holder of the CotC office. The > eligible voters are the active players, the vote collector is the IADoP, > and the options are Murphy (incumbent), You May Call Me Big Fucking > Edward, and PRESENT. I vote for Me.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > I'm assuming the last word of paragraph 3 should have been "Black." Yes, copy+paste error.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > Actions in Agora are generally ordered; unordered actions are accepted > only when they cause no ambiguity because the order is unimportant to > the rules. Assets are rule-defined entities and allowing the unordered > transfers (before the amendment I proposed, which specifies

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IBA] Motion to Amend

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
c-walker wrote: > No, you're right. I thought I had joined. I join the IBA. > > -- > C-walker, who clearly intends this message to be public. NttPF (and there's Agoran precedent that your .sig doesn't work, as one cannot rely on everyone being subscribed to a-d)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Conservative Party

2009-06-02 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > Where's that quote from originally? It sounds familiar. http://encyclopediadramatica.com/I_accidentally_X

DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-02 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > Also, proposal AI=3 II=1 "No sneaky intents": > { > Amend rule 107 (Initiating Agoran Decisions) by appending the paragraph: > > The Assessor's report contains a list of all Agoran decisions > currently in their voting periods. > } > [This should fix the standing prob

DIS: Re: BUS: Deputisation

2009-06-02 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > Wooble thinks e's an MWoP. If the above failed: Confirmed, e deputised to award emself MWoP at Wed, 20 May 2009 21:50:04 -0400

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-02 Thread Ed Murphy
zeckalpha wrote: > I CFJ the following statement: "allispaul is a player." NttPF

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Conservative Party

2009-06-02 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > A person CAN on behalf of another as authorized by a public > contract to which the person on whose behalf e is acting is a > party. "I accidentally to a-d. Is this dangerous?"

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: RE: [IADoP] Periodic Election (CotC)

2009-06-01 Thread Ed Murphy
zeckalpha wrote: >>> I CFJ on the following statement: >>> Swine flu counts as pigs flying. >>> >>> -- >>> --Rodlen >>> >> I favor this case. >> > > I second. NttPF (see http://zenith.homelinux.net/acronyms/ for more info)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: zeckalpha is to be registered.

2009-06-01 Thread Ed Murphy
Michael wrote: > PS: would people be interested in a Zendo contest/sub-game? (See > http://www.koryheath.com/games/zendo/design-history, for example.) Yes.

DIS: Re: BUS: RE: [IADoP] Periodic Election (CotC)

2009-06-01 Thread Ed Murphy
Quazie wrote: > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Alexander Smith wrote: >>> I wrote: Yally wrote: > I intend, with support, to initiate an election for Clerk of the > Courts. I support; even though the current politi

DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Periodic Election (CotC)

2009-05-31 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > I intend, with support, to initiate an election for Clerk of the Courts. Any particular reason?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Janitor's Report

2009-05-31 Thread Ed Murphy
Quazie wrote: > I do know better. It was still a valid janitorial event. Also, I > could submit the same proposal every week and it wouldn't be illegal > (i would likely get de-janitorized though) maybe thats a bug of > janitor? Not much of one; a whole lot of unwritten guidelines are effective

DIS: Re: BUS: Monthly stuff

2009-05-31 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Sean Hunt wrote: >> I award myself a Yellow Ribbon. > I performed duties related to 3-Scroll Rodney in a timely manner during May. I performed duties related to Cookie Jar and the Fantasy Rules Contest in a timely manner during May. (Disclaimer: I might have missed a deadline so

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-05-31 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > On Sat, 2009-05-30 at 09:18 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: >> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 23:05, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> Aaron Goldfein wrote: I appeal this judgment. >>> Since I spent a Note to remove one of your Rests in the belief that 3 >>> Rests was excessive, I would ask that, if t

Re: DIS: recently unalienated, perhaps misunderstanding rules...

2009-05-31 Thread Ed Murphy
zeckalpha wrote: > Rule 2150/6 seems contradictory > Personhood > > A person is an entity defined as such by rules with power of at > least 2. A person CAN generally be the subject of rights and > obligations under the rules. > > Any biological organism that is generally cap

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2534 judged TRUE by Rodlen

2009-05-31 Thread Ed Murphy
Rodlen wrote: > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Ed Murphy <mailto:emurph...@socal.rr.com>> wrote: > > ehird wrote: > > >>> I intend to appeal this as Rodlen clearly has not considered private > >>> agreements taking effect as is the pr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2541-42 assigned to Rodlen

2009-05-31 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Rodlen wrote: >> >> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> Rodlen wrote: I judge CFJ 2541 FALSE and CFJ 2542 TRUE. Â In the first case, Quazie attempted to announce that the rule repealed itself without causing it to

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2524a assigned to G., Rodlen, ehird

2009-05-31 Thread Ed Murphy
Rodlen wrote: > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Elliott Hird > <mailto:penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com>> wrote: > > 2009/5/29 Ed Murphy <mailto:emurph...@socal.rr.com>>: > > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-05-29 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > At the time I submitted that report, I was fully aware of this rule but > I also legitamately thought that I was not breaching it. From my point > of view, I don't have very many options. There is a plaintext option in > Gmail, but selecting this removes any capabilities to change f

DIS: Re: OFF: rulekeepor's notes on proposals 6302 - 6323

2009-05-29 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Proposal 6306 (Democratic, AI=2.0, Interest=1) by Murphy >> Patch objections >> ... >> The above notwithstanding, if the action depends on objections, >> and an objection to it has

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

2009-05-28 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: >> coppro wrote: >> >>> Ed Murphy wrote: >>>> Rule 1504, in the section on SILENCE: "The judge CAN, with 2 Support, >>>> set the fine" etc. >>> I'm not the judge yet, unless I missed the an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

2009-05-28 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: >> Rule 1504, in the section on SILENCE: "The judge CAN, with 2 Support, >> set the fine" etc. > I'm not the judge yet, unless I missed the announcement. R1728(c)(1) allows the judge to do it; R1728(c)(3) allows one of the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

2009-05-28 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: >> coppro wrote: >> >>> Ed Murphy wrote: >>>> TTttPF and (the needed support having been achieved) I set the fine >>>> at 3 Rests. >>> Fails, you aren't the judge. >> R1728(c)(3). >> >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

2009-05-28 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: >> I wrote: >> >>> coppro wrote: >>> >>>> Sean Hunt wrote: >>>>> Alex Smith wrote: >>>>>> I CFJ on this; the issue of whether MIME messages containing both >>>>>> pla

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

2009-05-27 Thread Ed Murphy
I wrote: > coppro wrote: > >> Sean Hunt wrote: >>> Alex Smith wrote: I CFJ on this; the issue of whether MIME messages containing both plaintext and HTML are legal is a rather important one, and I think it should go through the courts. >>> I favor this case. >> I intend, with 2 sup

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

2009-05-27 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Sean Hunt wrote: >> Alex Smith wrote: >>> I CFJ on this; the issue of whether MIME messages containing both >>> plaintext and HTML are legal is a rather important one, and I think it >>> should go through the courts. >> I favor this case. > I intend, with 2 support, to set the fine

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Leaving

2009-05-27 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > On Wed, 27 May 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: >> I intend, without member objection, to amend FRContest by replacing >> section 6 with this text: > > I join this contest. > > I'd object to any new rewards unless we add something to reward and/or > pena

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: IADoP CAN and SHALL

2009-05-26 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: >> coppro wrote: >> >>> Aaron Goldfein wrote: >>>> Proposal: IADoP CAN and SHALL (AI = 2, II = 1): >>>> >>>> In Rule 2154 (Election Procedure), after the sentence reading: >>>&g

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Leaving

2009-05-26 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > 2009/5/27 Ed Murphy : >> Would someone please explain "Min. to Win"? Â I'm sure I could work it >> out, but I have enough other things on my plate as it is. > > Minimum points to win? PROTIP: Begin by assuming I am not a complete idiot. Has

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Leaving

2009-05-26 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > 2009/5/27 Jonatan Kilhamn : >> -Tiger, who also did away with the "Geo. Mean" since e didn't know >> what it meant. > > Oh please... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_mean Would someone please explain "Min. to Win"? I'm sure I could work it out, but I have enough other thing

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Conversion

2009-05-26 Thread Ed Murphy
Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > 2009/5/27 Quazie : >> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: >>> On May 25, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >>>> I request the consent of OscarMeyr and Quazie to become party to >>>> Human Point Two. >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Conversion

2009-05-26 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 18:14 -0400, Quazie wrote: >> On behalf of hp2: >> Hp2 intends to register with agoran consent. > > I consent. NttPF. (If you've already TTttPF'ed, then ignore this; I'm just filing the relevant messages during the four-day waiting period.)

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: IADoP CAN and SHALL

2009-05-26 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> Proposal: IADoP CAN and SHALL (AI = 2, II = 1): >> >> In Rule 2154 (Election Procedure), after the sentence reading: >> >> Any player CAN, with Support, initiate an election for a >> specified elected office for which no election is already

DIS: Re: BUS: An IADoP CFJ

2009-05-26 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > I CFJ on the following sentence. The IADoP's report includes the date > eir previous report was submitted, not the date eir current report is > being submitted. > > Evidence: Rule 2138 > > The IADoP's report includes the following: > > d) The date when that office's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs

2009-05-26 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 13:58 -0400, comex wrote: >> No rule specifically allows R1551 (Ratification) to make Rule Changes. >> Rule 106 previously read: >> >> A proposal is a document outlining changes to be made to Agora, >> including enacting, repealing, or amending ru

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2480 remanded to Taral by Wooble (AFFIRM), Rodlen (AFFIRM but NttPF), Tiger

2009-05-26 Thread Ed Murphy
Alex Smith wrote: > We really really need legislation in the area of act-on-behalf... Proto-proto: A claim to act on behalf of another person constitutes a self-ratifying claim that it is authorized by contract.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Cookie Jar awards

2009-05-26 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 17:24 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: >> I revoke all x-points listed above. > I suspect this fails; surely the Cookie Jar's revocation limit isn't > that high? Given that the Cookie Jar is churning out such an insanely > large number of p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Conversion

2009-05-26 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > On May 25, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> I intend, with Agoran consent, to cause Human Point Two to register. >> > > What Rule says you can act on behalf of HP2 to register emself with > Agoran consent? If I am a party by then, then I can act

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Report

2009-05-25 Thread Ed Murphy
woggle wrote: > The second NoV (which wasn't on 19 May) named the crime correctly. The > first did not. Does this invalidate CFJ 2537?

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Report

2009-05-25 Thread Ed Murphy
woggle wrote: >> !05/19:001 17:16 comex Wooble 22038forgery >> > CoE: This notice was invalid. The crime it named, "Forgery", is not > specified by the rules. The NoV named "Endorsing Forgery", which is specified by the rules; it's only the report that omitted "Endorsing".

DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Voting

2009-05-23 Thread Ed Murphy
The PerlNomic Partnership wrote: > 6309 AGAINST > 6314 AGAINST > 6318 AGAINST These missed the end of the voting period by about 5.5 hours.

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to award patent titles

2009-05-22 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > I award myself the patent title Champion for my win by Championship. > I award myself the patent title Champion for my win by High Score. In the interest of maintaining the Hall of Fame's historical records (and my not having to hunt through the archives again), what was the natur

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA pledge

2009-05-20 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Rather than set up a bunch of pledges, wouldn't it be easier to use the > IBA? tl;dr. I may get around to grokking it one of these months.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: MwoPs should not incur obligations

2009-05-20 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > Proto: Rests CANNOT be created in a Minister Without Portfolio's > possession, rules to the contrary notwithstanding. A license to break the rules at will? Thank you, no. Proto: Rests CANNOT be created in a Minister Without Portfolio's possession to penalize eir inaction, rules t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Referential votes default to PRESENT

2009-05-20 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: >> Proposal: Referential votes default to PRESENT >> >> Amend Rule 2127 (Conditional Votes) by replacing each instance of: >> >> that voter's valid votes on that decision. >> >> with: >> >&g

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > - Otherwise, the Justiciar (or, failing that, the CotC) shall choose a > judgment such that if every undecided panelist chose that judgment, no > other judgment would have been chosen more often (so in the above > instance, e could pick REMAND or REASSIGN) Consider the actual rec

DIS: Re: BUS: (no subject)

2009-05-19 Thread Ed Murphy
thespyguy wrote: > Hey guys, I'm new. What's up? [snip] > I register Friend of yours, comex?

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Nearly a no-op

2009-05-18 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > WHEREAS Rule 101 i., as far as I can tell, has no effect whatsoever; > > ii., the right to a judicial process, can be > satisfied trivially (BUS: Formality; 2/17/09); "Formality" lacks the Power to effectively re-define such things as "resolve

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2480a assigned to Wooble, Rodlen, Tiger

2009-05-18 Thread Ed Murphy
Rodlen wrote: > AFFIRM, per Wooble. NttPF.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2480a assigned to Wooble, Rodlen, Tiger

2009-05-18 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2480a >> >> Appeal 2480a > > I opine AFFIRM. The incorrect information in the No

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2528 assigned to coppro

2009-05-17 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: >> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2528 >> >> == CFJ 2528 == >> >> On or about Sat, 16 May 2009 20:15:44 -0500, Yally resolved the >>

DIS: Re: BUS: [AAA] SoA Actions

2009-05-17 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > I revoke 3 points from Murphy. > I create a mill with an operator of / in Murphy's possession. I bought a Digit Ranch this week, not a Mill. (I bought a Mill last week, and already got it.)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6302-6323

2009-05-17 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 20:06 +0100, Charles Walker wrote: >> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Ed Murphy >> wrote: >> >> coppro wrote: >> >> > Alex Smith wrote: >> >> On Sat, 2009-05-16

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Office cleanup

2009-05-17 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > A player holds an office if e is that office's holder. IMO this is sufficiently covered by R754(2). > If an office incurs and obligation, then the officer SHOULD act to > ensure that the office meets those obligations. If an office > incurs a penalty as a

DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Promotor Election 2

2009-05-16 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > I initiate an Agoran decision to decide the holder of the Promotor > office. The eligible voters are the active players, the vote collector > is the IADoP, and the candidates are coppro and Wooble (incumbent). I endorse Wooble. I vote for Wooble (this is effective iff the previous

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6302-6323

2009-05-16 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> CoE: ais523 is not the author of this proposal; e retracted eir >> version shortly before I distributed. I believe the precedent is that >> it was distributed with no author, although my reading of the current >> rules makes it look to me that I'm the auth

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