Sgeo wrote:
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Benjamin Schultz wrote:
On Nov 6, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
I suggest flipping the Aerican Empire's recognition to Hostile.
I agree. Refuse us recognition? This means WAR!
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:49:16 +
Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8 Nov 2008, at 19:14, Sgeo wrote:
Might I point out that if they were to invade us with a sufficiently
large invasion force, Agora would lose, badly, in weeks?
You serious? I doubt half of them could even make
Elysion wrote:
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:49:16 +
Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8 Nov 2008, at 19:14, Sgeo wrote:
Might I point out that if they were to invade us with a sufficiently
large invasion force, Agora would lose, badly, in weeks?
You serious? I doubt half of them
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Benjamin Schultz wrote:
On Nov 6, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
I suggest flipping the Aerican Empire's recognition to Hostile.
I agree. Refuse us recognition? This means WAR!
To War! To
On 8 Nov 2008, at 19:14, Sgeo wrote:
Might I point out that if they were to invade us with a sufficiently
large invasion force, Agora would lose, badly, in weeks?
You serious? I doubt half of them could even make a working proposal...
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ehird
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Elliott Hird
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8 Nov 2008, at 19:14, Sgeo wrote:
Might I point out that if they were to invade us with a sufficiently
large invasion force, Agora would lose, badly, in weeks?
You serious? I doubt half of them could even make a
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008, Sgeo wrote:
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Benjamin Schultz wrote:
On Nov 6, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
I suggest flipping the Aerican Empire's recognition to Hostile.
I agree. Refuse us recognition?
Kerim Aydin wrote:
Well, the real question in a democracy: what's the difference between
invasion and immigration? -Goethe
Intent.
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On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Sgeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To War! To War! To war we're going to go!
Might I point out that if they were to invade us with a sufficiently
large invasion force, Agora would lose, badly, in weeks?
Not in emergency session.
Sgeo wrote:
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Benjamin Schultz wrote:
On Nov 6, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
I suggest flipping the Aerican Empire's recognition to Hostile.
I agree. Refuse us recognition? This means WAR!
To
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 3:15 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Sgeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To War! To War! To war we're going to go!
Might I point out that if they were to invade us with a sufficiently
large invasion force, Agora would lose, badly, in weeks?
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sgeo wrote:
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Benjamin Schultz wrote:
On Nov 6, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
I suggest flipping the Aerican Empire's recognition
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008, Ed Murphy wrote:
More generally, if a large group of people clearly intend to ruin
Agora, then the emergency session procedure gives us enough time
to erect stronger defenses, e.g.
How do we pass such a thing at high enough AI to protect when the
invaders will be standard
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008, Sgeo wrote:
Takeover of important positions, such as CotC and Promotor and
Assessor, and generally breaking Agoran laws and getting away with it
due to control of the courts.
One reasonable precaution would be during an emergency session, no
non-Senator may be nominated
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 13:06, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, the real question in a democracy: what's the difference between
invasion and immigration? -Goethe
Western Europe should know the answer to this question soon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe (see the
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Sgeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 3:15 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Sgeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To War! To War! To war we're going to go!
Might I point out that if they were to invade us with a
Since 1/4 of all first-class players can prevent a proposal from
passing, keeping all proposals from passing forever would require ten
times as many as 1/3 of the number of existing first-class players,
somewhere around 75 invaders.
I'm not quite sure I follow that..
Warrigal wrote:
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008, Ed Murphy wrote:
More generally, if a large group of people clearly intend to ruin
Agora, then the emergency session procedure gives us enough time
to erect stronger defenses, e.g.
How
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Warrigal wrote:
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008, Ed Murphy wrote:
More generally, if a large group of people clearly intend to ruin
Agora, then the emergency session
On Nov 8, 2008, at 8:14 PM, comex wrote:
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
More generally, if a large group of people clearly intend to ruin
Agora, then the emergency session procedure gives us enough time
to erect stronger defenses, e.g.
I submit the
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 8:13 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Warrigal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Time required: 7 days for the CotC to be delinquent, 7 days for the
invaders to delay the appeal as soon as possible, 7 days for the CotC
to again be delinquent, and
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 8:14 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More generally, if a large group of people clearly intend to ruin
Agora, then the emergency session procedure gives us enough time
to erect stronger defenses, e.g.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Warrigal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Time required: 7 days for the CotC to be delinquent, 7 days for the
invaders to delay the appeal as soon as possible, 7 days for the CotC
to again be delinquent, and another 7 days for the EXILE judgement to
go into go into
Sgeo wrote:
Wouldn't it only require number of existing first-class active
players to block all proposals?
That could also be addressed via mass exile.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Warrigal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[war plan]
This does not mean that we should not enact the proposed stronger defenses now.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Sgeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But the cases can then be appealed, with a CotC under our control.
Not if the gap occurs while the CotC is waiting to assign an appeal: e
can then assign it to three invaders who judge an unappealable AFFIRM.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suppose we could copy a tweaked pre-invasion ruleset to a contract
that we all agreed to, then detach it from the invaded Agora. But I'd
prefer to try defeating the invasion via scam (e.g. another round of
burying intent to
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We exile all the invaders.
Worst-case scenario: We enter an Emergency Session. The CotC position
is taken by invaders. Criminal CFJs are called against all the
invaders.
For violating Rule 101's Please treat Agora right good
On Saturday 08 November 2008 09:32:33 pm Ed Murphy wrote:
Hopefully an invasion would become clear early enough to start an
emergency session before the invaders could grab any offices
(minimum 4 days for nomination + 7 days for voting + 7 days before
an invader could deputise for the IADoP).
Warrigal wrote:
Blocking all power-3 proposals would be sufficient to cause Agora to
no longer be a nomic. We'd pretty much have to shed the old gamestate
and unofficially deregister people.
I suppose we could copy a tweaked pre-invasion ruleset to a contract
that we all agreed to, then
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Warrigal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or we could just say something like if there is an Emergency Session
and more than 2/3 of all entities that have been players for the last
60 days are Senators, a power-3 proposal passes if it has more than
3/4 of the vote of
Pavitra wrote:
On Saturday 08 November 2008 09:32:33 pm Ed Murphy wrote:
Hopefully an invasion would become clear early enough to start an
emergency session before the invaders could grab any offices
(minimum 4 days for nomination + 7 days for voting + 7 days before
an invader could deputise
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:26 AM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think we should just ignore these losers.
We're the ones who approached them diplomatically in the first place.
The Ambassador had nothing to do with the approach. We should ignore
Murphy too :P
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 11:26 -0500, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:26 AM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think we should just ignore these losers.
We're the ones who approached them diplomatically in the first place.
The Ambassador had nothing to do with the approach.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or alternatively nominate Murphy for Ambassador...
But this would only make it more likely that in the future we'd
attempt to establish diplomatic relations with nations founded by
5-year-olds.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Pavitra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 06 November 2008 11:07:04 pm Benjamin Schultz wrote:
On Thursday 06 November 2008 10:59:21 pm Kerim Aydin wrote:
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Benjamin Schultz wrote:
On Nov 6, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
I suggest
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From the bottom of http://aericanempire.com/faq.html :
4: The Empire refused to recognise me. Can I appeal in any way? How
about I just declare war on you until you change your mind?
If you are unsatisfied with the outcome
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Elliott Hird
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why are we taking this stupid invention of a bunch of 5 year olds seriously?
to be fair, their founder is no longer 5.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Elliott Hird
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7 Nov 2008, at 20:23, Ian Kelly wrote:
But there is no explicit list of what these laws actually are. So do
they actually have a bunch of laws that are just unpublished, or do
they just claim a fuzzy general set of
On 7 Nov 2008, at 20:55, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Elliott Hird
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why are we taking this stupid invention of a bunch of 5 year olds
seriously?
to be fair, their founder is no longer 5.
True. Although they still invest in this thing.
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On 7 Nov 2008, at 20:23, Ian Kelly wrote:
But there is no explicit list of what these laws actually are. So do
they actually have a bunch of laws that are just unpublished, or do
they just claim a fuzzy general set of laws (in which case one might
argue that they're not really laws)?
Wooble wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:26 AM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think we should just ignore these losers.
We're the ones who approached them diplomatically in the first place.
The Ambassador had nothing to do with the approach. We should ignore
Murphy too :P
No.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Elliott Hird
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
True. Although they still invest in this thing.
They have a Wikipedia article and have been mentioned in real-world newspapers.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:11 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Elliott Hird
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
True. Although they still invest in this thing.
They have a Wikipedia article and have been mentioned in real-world
newspapers.
Let's establish diplomatic
On Friday 07 November 2008 05:37:29 pm Geoffrey Spear wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:11 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Elliott Hird
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
True. Although they still invest in this thing.
They have a Wikipedia article and have been
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Original Message
From: Tristan Glark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: Proposal: Expanded foreign relations
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:29:44 +
Thank you for your
Original Message
From: Tristan Glark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: Proposal: Expanded foreign relations
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:29:44 +
Thank you for your interest in the Aerican Empire. Having reviewed all
information available to
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) You state quite clearly on your site that you are a game which acts
like a nation. The Empire, not being a game, does not see how we could
recognise you as an equivalent state or nation.
Not a game? Could have fooled me...
On Thursday 06 November 2008 10:23:26 am Ed Murphy wrote:
1) You state quite clearly on your site that you are a game which
acts like a nation. The Empire, not being a game, does not see how
we could recognise you as an equivalent state or nation.
Proto-rebuttal:
The distinction between a
On Thursday 06 November 2008 07:16:36 pm Pavitra wrote:
On Thursday 06 November 2008 10:23:26 am Ed Murphy wrote:
1) You state quite clearly on your site that you are a game which
acts like a nation. The Empire, not being a game, does not see
how we could recognise you as an equivalent
On Nov 6, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
I suggest flipping the Aerican Empire's recognition to Hostile.
I agree. Refuse us recognition? This means WAR!
-
Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr
Wondering how we could possibly invade them
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Benjamin Schultz wrote:
On Nov 6, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
I suggest flipping the Aerican Empire's recognition to Hostile.
I agree. Refuse us recognition? This means WAR!
To War! To War! To war we're going to go!
On Nov 6, 2008, at 11:59 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Benjamin Schultz wrote:
On Nov 6, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
I suggest flipping the Aerican Empire's recognition to Hostile.
I agree. Refuse us recognition? This means WAR!
To War! To War! To war we're
From the Aerican War Law:
It is the goal of the Aerican Empire to avoid conflict. War can and
must be avoided, if possible.
How far can we push the envelope on this to achieve some measure of
recognition between AE and Agora?
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Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr
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