Re: DIS: [Proto] We the People

2021-01-23 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 9:25 PM Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 09:01:09PM -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 7:49 PM Falsifian via agora-discussion > > wrote: > > > Okay, it's reasonable to take advantage of precedent

Re: DIS: [Proto] We the People

2021-01-23 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 09:01:09PM -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 7:49 PM Falsifian via agora-discussion > wrote: > > Okay, it's reasonable to take advantage of precedent that way. Does the > > precedent actually talk about "free will" in those words? >

Re: DIS: [Proto] We the People

2021-01-23 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 7:49 PM Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > Okay, it's reasonable to take advantage of precedent that way. Does the > precedent actually talk about "free will" in those words? > > If it weren't obvious that the word "willingly" is trying to do > something special in thi

Re: DIS: [Proto] We the People

2021-01-23 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
> > > This version should resolve those problems? (Basically, I swapped out > > > "freely" for "willingly".) > > > > Maybe it works. I wonder if "consciously" would work better. > > > > I'm not convinced "willingly" excludes dumb computer programs. E.g. if > > you made a program that tried to enfor

Re: DIS: [Proto] We the People

2021-01-23 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 4:09 PM Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 02:34:10PM -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 9:27 AM Falsifian via agora-discussion > > wrote: > > > > > > > Title: We the People > > > > Adoption index:

Re: DIS: [Proto] We the People

2021-01-23 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 02:34:10PM -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 9:27 AM Falsifian via agora-discussion > wrote: > > > > > Title: We the People > > > Adoption index: 3.0 > > > Author: Aris > > > Co-authors: Trigon, nix, G., Gaelan > > > > > > > > > Ame

Re: DIS: [Proto] We the People

2021-01-23 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 9:27 AM Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > > > Title: We the People > > Adoption index: 3.0 > > Author: Aris > > Co-authors: Trigon, nix, G., Gaelan > > > > > > Amend Rule 869, "How to Join and Leave Agora", by replacing: > > > > Any entity that is or ever was an org

Re: DIS: [Proto] We the People

2021-01-20 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
> Title: We the People > Adoption index: 3.0 > Author: Aris > Co-authors: Trigon, nix, G., Gaelan > > > Amend Rule 869, "How to Join and Leave Agora", by replacing: > > Any entity that is or ever was an organism generally capable of > freely originating and communicating independent thoughts

DIS: [Proto] We the People

2021-01-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
I have come out with a new draft of a personhood rearrangement. I wanted to precede it with a list G. made me write (thank you, G.) outlining the design goals, which may be of assistance to judges tasked with interpreting this later. Design goals: - Singlets are people - System members are people