Re: DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-18 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: On Sunday 18 November 2007, Taral wrote: A judicial finding is a judgement of a question on veracity that is neither appealed within the time limit for doing so nor sustained on appeal. Logic error. In fact, this is not necessary at all. Since AFFIRM reassigns

Re: DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-18 Thread Ed Murphy
Eris wrote: On 11/18/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sunday 18 November 2007, Taral wrote: I can't find any style guides that support or even mention this extension of the serial comma. You're probably right, but if that humongous sentences had no commas whatsoever, it would be ugly.

Re: DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-18 Thread comex
On Sunday 18 November 2007, Ed Murphy wrote: > I don't know that my claim will have any formal support, but I argue > from common sense (at least it seemed so to me) that omitting the > comma would be worse. Perhaps this is an argument for moving the > two items into bulleted paragraphs, or for re

Re: DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-18 Thread Ed Murphy
Eris wrote: On 11/18/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The serial comma's role of disambiguation can be reasonably extended to lists of two, provided that the items in the list are sufficiently complex. Furthermore, as demonstrated multiple times in this reply, there are several other s

Re: DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-18 Thread Taral
On 11/18/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The original sentence is "has not been appealed, or has been sustained" -- > yours is "not appealed, and not sustained" Woops. Change sustained to overturned then. > P.S. Is "purport" the word of the month? Didn't you get the memo? -- Taral <[EMA

Re: DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-18 Thread comex
On Sunday 18 November 2007, Taral wrote: > On 11/18/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 18 November 2007, Taral wrote: > > > A judicial finding is a judgement of a question on veracity > > > that is neither appealed within the time limit for doing so > > > nor susta

Re: DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-18 Thread Taral
On 11/18/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 18 November 2007, Taral wrote: > > A judicial finding is a judgement of a question on veracity > > that is neither appealed within the time limit for doing so > > nor sustained on appeal. > > Logic error. It is logically e

Re: DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-18 Thread Ian Kelly
On Nov 18, 2007 2:19 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 18 November 2007, Taral wrote: > > I can't find any style guides that support or even mention this > > extension of the serial comma. > > You're probably right, but if that humongous sentences had no commas > whatsoever, it would

Re: DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-18 Thread comex
On Sunday 18 November 2007, Taral wrote: > A judicial finding is a judgement of a question on veracity > that is neither appealed within the time limit for doing so > nor sustained on appeal. Logic error. In fact, this is not necessary at all. Since AFFIRM reassigns the judgem

Re: DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-18 Thread Taral
On 11/18/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 18 November 2007, Taral wrote: > > I can't find any style guides that support or even mention this > > extension of the serial comma. > > You're probably right, but if that humongous sentences had no commas > whatsoever, it would be ugly. T

Re: DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-18 Thread comex
On Sunday 18 November 2007, Taral wrote: > I can't find any style guides that support or even mention this > extension of the serial comma. You're probably right, but if that humongous sentences had no commas whatsoever, it would be ugly. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed me

Re: DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-18 Thread Taral
On 11/18/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The serial comma's role of disambiguation can be reasonably extended > to lists of two, provided that the items in the list are sufficiently > complex. Furthermore, as demonstrated multiple times in this reply, > there are several other situation

Re: DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-18 Thread Ed Murphy
Eris wrote: On 11/17/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Eris wrote: On 11/17/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A judicial finding is a judgement of a question on veracity that is not appealed within the time limit for doing so, or that is sustained on appeal

Re: DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-18 Thread Taral
On 11/17/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eris wrote: > > > On 11/17/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>A judicial finding is a judgement of a question on veracity > >>that is not appealed within the time limit for doing so, or > >>that is sustained on ap

Re: DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-17 Thread Ed Murphy
Eris wrote: On 11/17/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A judicial finding is a judgement of a question on veracity that is not appealed within the time limit for doing so, or that is sustained on appeal. Spurious comma. Disagree.

Re: DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-17 Thread Taral
On 11/17/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >A judicial finding is a judgement of a question on veracity >that is not appealed within the time limit for doing so, or >that is sustained on appeal. Spurious comma. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if th

Re: DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-17 Thread Ed Murphy
I wrote: Proto-Proposal: Formalize judicial findings (AI = 3, please) This should probably be two separate proposals. First one: Amend Rule 591 (Inquiry Cases) by appending this text: A judicial finding is a judgement of a question on veracity that is not appealed within the t

DIS: Proto: Formalize judicial findings

2007-11-17 Thread Ed Murphy
Proto-Proposal: Formalize judicial findings (AI = 3, please) Amend Rule 591 (Inquiry Cases) by appending this text: A judicial finding is a judgement of a question on veracity that is not appealed within the time limit for doing so, or that is sustained on appeal. Amend Rule