DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-10 Thread ihope
I hereby attempt to make the contract known as Agoran Twister a contest; this must be done without 3 objections. On 10/03/2008, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree to this. (Why Keith, though?) I have a friend named Keith who once played a guy named Oliver in a play. I don't know anyt

DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-10 Thread ihope
TTPF: I hereby attempt to make the contract known as Agoran Twister a contest; this must be done without 3 objections. On 10/03/2008, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree to this, although I'm not sure that my agreement is effective, > since I've just noticed that the contract lacks a cl

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:58 AM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hereby attempt to make the contract known as Agoran Twister a > contest; this must be done without 3 objections. NttPF. -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ihope wrote: > >I hereby attempt to make the contract known as Agoran Twister a > >contest; this must be done without 3 objections. > > I object. The contract is too easily modified. I think any modification > to a contest s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-11 Thread Zefram
Ian Kelly wrote: >The mechanism is almost identical to the one used by the Agoran >Agricultural Society... Yes. I didn't notice the problem with that one at the time. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-11 Thread ihope
On 11/03/2008, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh well. I intend to amend the Agoran Twister contract, with the > support of a majority of Keiths, by replacing the text "Any Keith may > amend this contract with the consent of a majority of Keiths." with > "Any Keith may amend this contr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-11 Thread Kerim Aydin
I agree to this change. -Goethe On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, ihope wrote: > On 11/03/2008, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Oh well. I intend to amend the Agoran Twister contract, with the >> support of a majority of Keiths, by replacing the text "Any Keith may >> amend this contract with t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:18 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/03/2008, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh well. I intend to amend the Agoran Twister contract, with the > > support of a majority of Keiths, by replacing the text "Any Keith may > > amend this contract with

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 3:05 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I object! Without 3 objections is probably, in practice, easier to > get than the support of a majority. Without 3 objections is the same level of support that would be needed to just ditch the contest and form a brand new one.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-11 Thread Buddha Buck
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, note that the objections can come from anybody, not just Keiths, > which is an important aspect to avoid abuse. Anybody? Including me? > > -root >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Buddha Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Also, note that the objections can come from anybody, not just Keiths, > > which is an important aspect to avoid abuse. > > Anybody? Including

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-11 Thread ihope
On 11/03/2008, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We've now got 4 consenting Keiths (myself, Ivan Hope, Wooble, and > Goethe), but the cardinality of the contract has risen to 9, so 5 > consenting Keiths are now required. Any other takers? 9? I have myself, comex, the AFO, Murphy, root, Goe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 5:10 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 9? I have myself, comex, the AFO, Murphy, root, Goethe, BobTHJ, and > Wooble. Who am I missing? (5 people are still required, and root got 5 > people, so that's all good.) Hmm, I thought I saw somebody else join, but I must hav

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-11 Thread comex
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 7:10 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 9? I have myself, comex, the AFO, Murphy, root, Goethe, BobTHJ, and > Wooble. Who am I missing? (5 people are still required, and root got 5 > people, so that's all good.) The AFO arguably does not exist at the moment..

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-15 Thread ihope
On 15/03/2008, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Spot: Initiate at least one judicial case per week. If someone Opined NO WAY on this, how would they Break it? --Ivan Hope CXXVII

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 3:14 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 15/03/2008, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Spot: Initiate at least one judicial case per week. > > If someone Opined NO WAY on this, how would they Break it? By initiating a judicial case? -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 3:14 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 15/03/2008, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Spot: Initiate at least one judicial case per week. > > > > If someone Opined NO WAY on this, how

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-15 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 3:14 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On 15/03/2008, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > Spot: Initiate at least one judicial case per week. >> > >> > If someone Opined

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-15 Thread ihope
On 15/03/2008, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someone should write up an amendment to the effect of "if the spot > refers to a recurring type of time period, then each instance of that > type of time period is evaluated separately for violations". "Every millisecond, post a message to a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-15 Thread Ed Murphy
Ivan Hope wrote: > On 15/03/2008, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Someone should write up an amendment to the effect of "if the spot >> refers to a recurring type of time period, then each instance of that >> type of time period is evaluated separately for violations". > > "Every millis

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
> On 15/03/2008, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Spot: Initiate at least one judicial case per week. NO WAY (same comments others have made on this). -Goethe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > How about a minimum period of one week and a prohibition on Spots to > perform impossible or illegal acts? We have to be careful in the phrasing of prohibitions like this. This game strikes me as FRC-like, progressively painting participants in a corner s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-16 Thread Buddha Buck
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > > How about a minimum period of one week and a prohibition on Spots to > > perform impossible or illegal acts? > > We have to be careful in the phrasing of prohibitions like thi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Buddha Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My thoughts, as a watcher (and not a player in either Agora or Agoran > Twister) is that a necessary condition to the validity of a Spot > should be that it is possible for any Innie to legally satisfy the > obligations

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 1:29 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 5:12 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Spot: Initiate at least one judicial case per week. > > NO WAY I don't think you're required to opine on your own spot... -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-16 Thread Buddha Buck
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Buddha Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My thoughts, as a watcher (and not a player in either Agora or Agoran > > Twister) is that a necessary condition to the validity of a Spot > > s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-16 Thread comex
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Buddha Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another example: The spot {If you are the accessor, do X} cannot, > using standard meanings of first order predicate logic, be opined NO > WAY by anyone other than the accessor -- as a non-accessor trivially > fulfils t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-16 Thread ihope
On 16/03/2008, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think you're required to opine on your own spot... > > -root I'm not sure whether I intended to say "every other Innie should Opine" or not. As it is, you are indeed not required to Opine on your own Spot. Should this be changed to jus

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, comex wrote: > I opine OKAY on that spot, considering that being forced to vote > PRESENT on at least one proposal per distribution if I otherwise > wouldn't vote is not a problem, compared to being forced to not vote > at all on any proposal in a certain distribution! I'm

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-24 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Spot: Vote on at least one proposal from every batch of distributions. As far as I can tell, the AFO, BobTHJ and Wooble have not opined on this first spot, so they're all out. -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-24 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Spot: Vote on at least one proposal from every batch of distributions. > > As far as I can tell, the AFO, BobTHJ and Wooble have not opined on > this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest proposal: Agoran Twister

2008-03-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Spot: Vote on at least one proposal from every batch of distributions. > > As far as I can tell, the AFO, BobTHJ and Wooble have not opined on > this