Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Define Reiteration

2018-09-26 Thread D Margaux
The one question I have is—how is the “reiteration” definition consistent with the interpretation of “clear” set forth in the recent CFJ on the attempted declaration of apathy? I think the “reiterate” language involves indirection that is similar to the indirection involved in the apathy

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Define Reiteration

2018-09-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
I've considered it more since our last conversation, and I agree that it definitely meets reasonable effort standards whenever the previous vote was reported in an assessor's results (which would be the case most times this would be used), so I don't think I'd opine against in on those grounds.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Define Reiteration

2018-09-26 Thread Aris Merchant
Basically, I just don't see anything that justifies such a harsh viewpoint. There's a big difference between those examples and looking up one vote on one decision, information available easily in the resolution message. You'd basically be banning any conditional that depends on anything a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Define Reiteration

2018-09-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > I object. You’ve just stated that you have a strong personal opinion. Whether or not I judge this, I'm open to discussion and changing my first impression. (Obviously I can't make you not object, but using "expressing an opinion" as a reason

DIS: Re: BUS: Define Reiteration

2018-09-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
I will challenge/CoE the counting of any vote done in this matter. It is wholly unreasonable (beyond the bounds of clarity) to require persons to look back at past decisions to see what vote was cast. (public voting should communicate not just with the assessor, but with everyone). On Sun, 23

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Define Reiteration

2018-09-23 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 6:00 PM Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Sun, 23 Sep 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: [This is an informal general definition that is helpful for proposals added again to the pool. The Assessor already has this information, which means

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Define Reiteration

2018-09-23 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 6:00 PM Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Sun, 23 Sep 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > [This is an informal general definition that is helpful for proposals > > added again to the pool. The Assessor already has this information, > > which means that it's legal under past

DIS: Re: BUS: Define Reiteration

2018-09-23 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: [This is an informal general definition that is helpful for proposals added again to the pool. The Assessor already has this information, which means that it's legal under past precedent to cast a vote that requires em to retrieve it.] The obvious