Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7094-7101

2011-07-09 Thread Tanner Swett
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 6:28 PM, omd wrote: > On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Having a base text published, then having a second message published saying >> "this now overrides the base text" is no different than having something >> at the bottom of the base text saying "that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7094-7101

2011-07-09 Thread omd
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Pavitra wrote: >> On 07/08/2011 10:18 PM, omd wrote: >> > *arguably Agora would cease to be a person in the interval between the >> > adoption of a proposal and the publication of an updated ruleset? >> >> The resolution

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7094-7101

2011-07-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Pavitra wrote: > On 07/08/2011 10:18 PM, omd wrote: > > *arguably Agora would cease to be a person in the interval between the > > adoption of a proposal and the publication of an updated ruleset? > > The resolution of a proposal generally includes the text of the changes; >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7094-7101

2011-07-08 Thread Pavitra
On 07/08/2011 10:18 PM, omd wrote: > *arguably Agora would cease to be a person in the interval between the > adoption of a proposal and the publication of an updated ruleset? The resolution of a proposal generally includes the text of the changes; during that interval, the entire text has not bee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7094-7101

2011-07-08 Thread omd
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Pavitra wrote: > >> The intent is proxied through Rule 2328, which has power 2. > > We've previously determined that the rules aren't an agreement.  Is > Agora as a whole?  Does Agora count as having been "published"? The requirement is that the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7094-7101

2011-07-08 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Ed Murphy wrote: > Pavitra wrote: > > > The intent is proxied through Rule 2328, which has power 2. > > We've previously determined that the rules aren't an agreement. Is > Agora as a whole? Does Agora count as having been "published"? The "are the rules an agreement?" qu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7094-7101

2011-07-08 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > The intent is proxied through Rule 2328, which has power 2. We've previously determined that the rules aren't an agreement. Is Agora as a whole? Does Agora count as having been "published"?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7094-7101

2011-07-08 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Pavitra wrote: > On 07/07/2011 07:14 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > > On 07/07/11 17:06, Ed Murphy wrote: > 7101 3  Pavitra   Submitting Promises > >>> ENDORSE AGORA > >> > >> Given recent proposals, and the past use of "endorse Agora" as shorthand > >> for something like

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7094-7101

2011-07-08 Thread Pavitra
On 07/08/2011 02:41 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Pavitra wrote: > >> On 07/08/2011 01:38 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >>> scshunt wrote: >>> On 07/07/11 17:06, Ed Murphy wrote: >>> 7101 3  Pavitra   Submitting Promises >> ENDORSE AGORA > > Given recent proposals, and the past use of "

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7094-7101

2011-07-08 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > On 07/08/2011 01:38 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> scshunt wrote: >> >>> On 07/07/11 17:06, Ed Murphy wrote: >> 7101 3  Pavitra   Submitting Promises > ENDORSE AGORA Given recent proposals, and the past use of "endorse Agora" as shorthand for something like "

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7094-7101

2011-07-08 Thread Pavitra
On 07/08/2011 01:38 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > scshunt wrote: > >> On 07/07/11 17:06, Ed Murphy wrote: > 7101 3  Pavitra   Submitting Promises ENDORSE AGORA >>> >>> Given recent proposals, and the past use of "endorse Agora" as shorthand >>> for something like "if F>A then F else if A>F

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7094-7101

2011-07-07 Thread Ed Murphy
scshunt wrote: > On 07/07/11 17:06, Ed Murphy wrote: 7101 3  Pavitra   Submitting Promises >>> ENDORSE AGORA >> >> Given recent proposals, and the past use of "endorse Agora" as shorthand >> for something like "if F>A then F else if A>F then A else P", I'm >> interpreting this as ineffe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7094-7101

2011-07-07 Thread Pavitra
On 07/07/2011 07:14 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > On 07/07/11 17:06, Ed Murphy wrote: 7101 3  Pavitra   Submitting Promises >>> ENDORSE AGORA >> >> Given recent proposals, and the past use of "endorse Agora" as shorthand >> for something like "if F>A then F else if A>F then A else P", I'm >> in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7094-7101

2011-07-07 Thread Sean Hunt
On 07/07/11 17:06, Ed Murphy wrote: 7101 3  Pavitra   Submitting Promises ENDORSE AGORA Given recent proposals, and the past use of "endorse Agora" as shorthand for something like "if F>A then F else if A>F then A else P", I'm interpreting this as ineffective due to lack of clarity. A

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2011-07-07 Thread Ed Murphy
>> 7098 1.7 omd     Victory case changes > JE NE SAIS PAS This is French for "I do not know". I'm interpreting it as ineffective. >> 7101 3  Pavitra   Submitting Promises > ENDORSE AGORA Given recent proposals, and the past use of "endorse Agora" as shorthand for something like "i

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2011-07-06 Thread Pavitra
On 07/06/2011 11:52 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > FOR, but it's ineffective since Agora isn't a person, isn't it? Rules 2328 and 2339 together seem to imply that it is.