Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: result of CFJ 1694

2007-07-20 Thread Zefram
Kerim Aydin wrote: >On third hand, R105-106 overrules R1030 On the gripping hand, an AI=3 proposal can repeal rule 101 and then do whatever it wants. >BTW, I agree with your original statement if you assert it for >"protectorates" or "registered partnerships" I was asserting it (the incorporati

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: result of CFJ 1694

2007-07-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
Zefram wrote: > I've been assuming that the hypothetical agreement-changing proposal > modifies (or otherwise overrides) rule 101 if it would get in the way. > That would require a higher AI than is otherwise needed, of course. Ah, I see where you're coming from. May need a power-4 proposal, to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: result of CFJ 1694

2007-07-19 Thread Zefram
Kerim Aydin wrote: >I would say the above agreement, which is *exactly* how agreements >were used in the past, would not be bound by a change-by-proposal. I've been assuming that the hypothetical agreement-changing proposal modifies (or otherwise overrides) rule 101 if it would get in the way. Tha

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: result of CFJ 1694

2007-07-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
Zefram wrote: > No it doesn't. Primo charter section 1 gives Agoran law the capacity > to modify Primo by the statement > > This is a binding Agreement governed by the Rules of Agora. You have the habit of presenting as facts statements which are based on dubious Rules readings and arguabl

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: result of CFJ 1694

2007-07-19 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: Ed Murphy wrote: Gunneran rule 358 copies Agoran Rule 106's force of law to Gunner in exactly the same fashion as Primo charter section 1 copies it to Primo. No it doesn't. Primo charter section 1 gives Agoran law the capacity to modify Primo by the statement This is a b

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: result of CFJ 1694

2007-07-19 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: >Gunneran rule 358 copies Agoran Rule 106's force of law to Gunner >in exactly the same fashion as Primo charter section 1 copies it >to Primo. No it doesn't. Primo charter section 1 gives Agoran law the capacity to modify Primo by the statement This is a binding Agreement

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: result of CFJ 1694

2007-07-19 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: I call for appeal of Primo's judgement of CFJ 1694. Arguments: [snip] This case has similarities to CFJ 1704. In that case, concerning Primo Corporation, the judge ruled that the possibility of direct modification of Primo's charter by the adoption of an Agoran proposal satisfi