Re: java atk wrapper in bookworm
Hi, I am now confused. Samuel wrote that ubuntu has removed a patch which is needed to load atk-wrapper into jre. openjdk-17 has the mentioned issue openjdk-19-jre:amd64 works as expected regarding atk-wrapper. tested on a machine running ubuntu 22.04. Was the patch only removed for jre-17? Any way I see no other jre in debian bookworm except jre-17. Regards Halim Am 19.09.23 um 17:49 schrieb Samuel Thibault: Sam Hartman, le mar. 19 sept. 2023 08:15:35 -0600, a ecrit: But I think you will be more likely to get that if you can clearly articulate the situation. The simple answer is that it just does not work when using the debian- (or ubuntu-) provided packages. And that is the scenario that I was reporting. I have no idea what package they actually used to "reproduce" my scenario. My best guess is that they either used their own build that might be include some patch that happens to fix the issue. Or that they didn't manage to actually enable the atk bridge (so as to actually see the load failure). But I didn't get any answer from Oracle when I gave them the exact details of what I was doing with ubuntu-only packages. And at this point I don't think I can hope to see them actually try to run orca and see that java applications are just not accessible. I mean, they asked for a reproducer application. That just shows that they don't actually understand what "accessible" means, since it's all java applications which are impacted. Without an actual accessibility contact, I don't see how we can get things through. Samuel
[BRLTTY] brltty 6.6: reliable but slow cursorrouting in debian with the a2 screendriver
Hi, sorry for my previous post about not working cursor routing. It seems to be an Issue in Ubuntu. Now I have a working debian bookworm setup which performs well :-). The only thing which is not perfect is the speed of the routing when using EG xfce4-terminal. It would be great if this can be speeded up a bit. Thx. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
java atk wrapper in bookworm
Hi Folks, a few months ago I've tested a beta or rc of bookworm with java-atk-wrapper and it worked. After bookworm was released something is wrong on my machine or in bookworm. When I enable assistive_technologies=org.GNOME.Accessibility.AtkWrapper in accessibility.properties My Application doesn't start any more. The error is that it can't find the needed stuff of libatk-wrapper. Could you please test to use an app which uses atk-wrapper EG.: mediathekview? Thx in Advance. Halim
[BRLTTY] brltty 6.6: routing issue in xfce4-terminal and braille star 80
Hi, today I've build brltty 6.6 using ubuntu 22.04. I used the run-brltty command to start brltty. My display here is a braillestar 80. When trying to use cursor routing in the terminal (Xorg, xfce4) I see following in the log when set to server: 2023-08-28@16:32:59.190 [brltty] BRLTTY 6.6 rev BRLTTY-6.6-11-g813529e2 [https://brltty.app/] 2023-08-28@16:32:59.190 [brltty] can't isolate namespaces 2023-08-28@16:32:59.191 [brltty] executing as the invoking user: halim 2023-08-28@16:32:59.191 [brltty] group not joined: 0(root) 2023-08-28@16:32:59.199 [brltty] Screen Driver: a2 [AtSpi2] 2023-08-28@16:32:59.200 [brltty] Braille Driver: ba [BrlAPI] Version:0.1, 2005 2023-08-28@16:32:59.201 [brltty] Speech Driver: sd [SpeechDispatcher] 2023-08-28@16:33:12.240 [cursor-routing] invalid async handle 2023-08-28@16:33:12.240 [cursor-routing] invalid async handle 2023-08-28@16:33:12.250 [cursor-routing] report listener already registered: 5: a2CoreSelUpdated Regards Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working
Hi, Choose another distro. My suggestion is Debian. I am having many issues with latest ubuntu LTS. At least for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS it took me much time to get my displays to work and not all issues could be solved by building brltty from git. In my opinion don't use ubuntu! Regards Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] Q: howto use screendriver a2 and braille output only for terminal output?
Hi, is there a configuration option for brltty which restricts the brailleoutput only to terminal output like autospeak-threshold for speech? Current situation on my machines is that brltty also tries to give some braille output for non-Terminal apps like gedit or mousepad etc. BTW.: my autospeak-threshold is set to good. Brltty doesn't speak anything in gedit except the line indentation. BR. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] BBrltty 6.5: BUG with Line Indentation and autospeakthreshold
Hi, I am using brltty for Terminals in xfce4. in brltty.conf autospeakthreshold is set to good. Now when say lineindentation is active brltty says the indentation also in gui apps like gedit. Tested with brltty 6.5 from git. Br. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] some trouble with handy tech braillestar 80 and the connected keyboard with brltty 6.5
Hi list, I've connected an usb keyboard with a ps/2 converter to my braillestar 80. This way I can use the display with two different machines. It works for me most of the time with following issues: 1. some times brltty doesn't reliable get key releases. In that case typing isn't possible when EG. the left alt or right alt hangs etc. In other cases the last pressed key was repeated until pressing a key again. 2. selecting the some keytable in brltty.conf doesn't work here. I've tested EG the desktop keytable. Whn using the learn mode of brltty I get always same output when pressing down different keys. PASSAT: AT (set 2) keyboard-scancode [\XF0] 3. some times the Keyboard hangs completely and I have to switch to external / internal mode in braillestar 80 to get the keyboard working again. BTW.: The usb keyboard works reliable when connnecting it directly with the machine. If you can give some advice please do :-). BR. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] brltty 6.5 ignores ~/.config/brltty/brltty.prefs
Hi, fresh install of debian bookworm. brltty.prefs was created correctly but brltty seems to ignore using it. EG.: save-on-exit is set to yes but when I open the brltty settings save-on-exit is set to no. Same behaviour for autspeak options etc. Can you please help? Regards Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] brltty 6.5 from git: doesn't resume after suspend
Hi, I am currently testing brltty from git with a el80s Display from Papenmeier. brltty was started using run-brltty command in the build tree. It works great until I tried to use suspend function (suspend to ram). When the laptop wakes up brltty shows nothing on the braille display. Any sugestions / Ideas what causes this? It might also be helpful when a user with same display could test this as well. Thx in Advance. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] screen-driver a2: invalid async handle when trying to use cursorrouting
Hi Samuel, On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 01:25:54AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > Halim Sahin, le ven. 31 mars 2023 06:19:22 +0200, a ecrit: > > cursor routing no longer works in current brltty when using > > screen-driver a2 in Terminal (gnome-terminal and xfce4-terminal) tested. > > > > The only thing i see is invalid async handle in debug log and a segfault > > in dmesg. > > It seems that this is fixing it: Thx Samuel. Seems working now for me!!! Best Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] screen-driver a2: invalid async handle when trying to use cursorrouting
Hi, cursor routing no longer works in current brltty when using screen-driver a2 in Terminal (gnome-terminal and xfce4-terminal) tested. The only thing i see is invalid async handle in debug log and a segfault in dmesg. It would be great if this could be fixed. Maybe it's a Problem in ubuntu lts but I've also tried brltty 6.5 without success. Debug log attached. Please let me know If you need more / other information. My used brailledisplay is a Handytech braillestar 80. BTW.: routing works in tty, only in X it doesn't. BR. Halim 2023-03-31@06:12:09.019 [brltty] BRLTTY 6.5 rev BRLTTY-6.5-271-gbbaa3524 [https://brltty.app/] 2023-03-31@06:12:09.019 [brltty] Console Encoding: UTF-8 2023-03-31@06:12:09.019 [brltty] lock descriptor allocated: queue-discarded-elements 2023-03-31@06:12:09.019 [brltty] Log File: /tmp/brltty.log 2023-03-31@06:12:09.019 [brltty] Log Level: debug 2023-03-31@06:12:09.019 [brltty] Messages Locale: de_DE.UTF-8 2023-03-31@06:12:09.019 [brltty] Messages Domain: brltty 2023-03-31@06:12:09.019 [brltty] Messages Directory: /home/halim/jammy/home/halim/brltty/Messages/locale 2023-03-31@06:12:09.019 [brltty] Autospeak Threshold: good 2023-03-31@06:12:09.019 [brltty] Privilege Parameter: path= 2023-03-31@06:12:09.019 [brltty] Privilege Parameter: scfmode= 2023-03-31@06:12:09.019 [brltty] Privilege Parameter: shell= 2023-03-31@06:12:09.019 [brltty] Privilege Parameter: user= 2023-03-31@06:12:09.019 [brltty] environment variable set: PATH: /bin:/usr/bin 2023-03-31@06:12:09.019 [brltty] environment variable set: SHELL: /bin/sh 2023-03-31@06:12:09.019 [brltty] can't isolate namespaces 2023-03-31@06:12:09.020 [brltty] executing as the invoking user: halim 2023-03-31@06:12:09.020 [brltty] checking XDG runtime directory: /run/user/1000 2023-03-31@06:12:09.020 [brltty] XDG-Laufzeitverzeichnis existiert: /run/user/1000 2023-03-31@06:12:09.020 [brltty] environment variable set: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR: /run/user/1000 2023-03-31@06:12:09.020 [brltty] not claiming state directories 2023-03-31@06:12:09.021 [brltty] group not joined: 0(root) 2023-03-31@06:12:09.021 [brltty] pushed command environment: initial 2023-03-31@06:12:09.021 [brltty] report listener registered: 0: handleUpdateBrailleDeviceOnline 2023-03-31@06:12:09.021 [brltty] program exit event added: screen-data 2023-03-31@06:12:09.021 [brltty] Working Directory: /home/halim/jammy/home/halim/brltty 2023-03-31@06:12:09.021 [brltty] Configuration File: atspi.conf 2023-03-31@06:12:09.021 [brltty] Tables Directory: /home/halim/jammy/home/halim/brltty/Tables 2023-03-31@06:12:09.021 [brltty] Drivers Directory: /home/halim/jammy/home/halim/brltty/lib 2023-03-31@06:12:09.021 [brltty] Writable Directory: /run/brltty 2023-03-31@06:12:09.021 [brltty] Updatable Directory: /var/lib/brltty 2023-03-31@06:12:09.021 [brltty] Preferences File: brltty.prefs 2023-03-31@06:12:09.021 [brltty] loading preferences file: /var/lib/brltty/brltty.prefs 2023-03-31@06:12:09.021 [brltty] file opened: /home/halim/.config/brltty/brltty.prefs fd=6 2023-03-31@06:12:09.021 [brltty] file opened: /home/halim/.config/brltty/brltty.prefs fd=6 2023-03-31@06:12:09.021 [brltty] starting host command: /sbin/modprobe -q uinput 2023-03-31@06:12:09.022 [brltty] host command exit status: 0: /sbin/modprobe 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] device directory: /dev 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] checking uinput device: /dev/uinput 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] uinput device: uinput 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] cannot open device: /dev/uinput: Keine Berechtigung 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] lock descriptor allocated: umask 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] kann Verzeichnis nicht erstellen: /run/brltty: Keine Berechtigung 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] cannot open uinput device: uinput: Keine Berechtigung 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] program exit event added: tunes 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] tune thread state change: 0 -> 1 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] tune thread state change: 1 -> 3 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] regions: text=0.0 status=0.0 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] shifts: full=1 half=0 vertical=5 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] using autoselected text table: de 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] compiling text table: /home/halim/jammy/home/halim/brltty/Tables/Text/de.ttb 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] file opened: /home/halim/jammy/home/halim/brltty/Tables/Text/de.ttb fd=10 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] including data file: /home/halim/jammy/home/halim/brltty/Tables/Text/de.ttb 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] file opened: /home/halim/jammy/home/halim/brltty/Tables/Text/ltr-latin.tti fd=11 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] including data file: /home/halim/jammy/home/halim/brltty/Tables/Text/ltr-latin.tti 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] file opened: /home/halim/jammy/home/halim/brltty/Tables/Text/ltr-alias.tti fd=12 2023-03-31@06:12:09.523 [brltty] including data file: /home/halim/jammy/home/halim/brltty/Tables/Text/ltr-alias.tti
[BRLTTY] build broken in brltty git
Hi,
cd Programs && make all
make[1]: Entering directory '/home/halim/brltty/Programs'
gcc -I. -I. -I./../Programs -I../Programs -I../Headers -I./.. -I..
-D_DEFAULT_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=2 -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500
-D_XOPEN_SOURCE_EXTENDED -D_GNU_SOURCE -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -std=gnu99 -Wall
-Werror=format-security -Wno-address-of-packed-member -Wno-stringop-truncation
-fPIC -c ./brlapi_server.c
./brlapi_server.c: In function 'handleGetModelIdentifier':
./brlapi_server.c:835:54: error: 'BrailleDisplay' {aka 'struct
BrailleDisplayStruct'} has no member named 'keyBinding'; did you mean
'keyBindings'?
835 | return handleGetDriver(c, type, size, disp ? disp->keyBinding : "");
| ^~
| keyBindings
./brlapi_server.c:836:1: warning: control reaches end of non-void function
[-Wreturn-type]
836 | }
| ^
make[1]: *** [Makefile:723: brlapi_server.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/halim/brltty/Programs'
make: *** [Makefile:49: all] Error 2
BR.
Halim
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Re: [BRLTTY] Paste in console
Hi Lars, I am also experiencing some issues with the evo88 Display. Those don't happen when using the brlstar80. If this is fixed for you I.ll try to install a newer kernel. Thx for your information about modular evolution 88. Regards Halim On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 10:01:28PM +0200, Lars Bjørndal wrote: > Replying to myself > > > I can't paste from the braille display any more (Help Tech Modular > > Evolution 88. Could it be a hardware error? > > > > I notice when I'm writing this message that the cursor routing keys > > doesn't work either, and neither do the left triple action key up/down. > > In command learn mode, brltty reports the correct behavior of the > > respective keys. > > > > I've attached a debug log file. > > The problem is linked to a kernel update. With kernel 6.1.18-100.fc36.x86_64 > all works as expected. Booting with kernel-6.2.7-100.fc36.x86_64, the problem > occured. > > Thanks, Lars > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Strange problem when switching back to X & restarting brltty
Hi, I think the display is locked and sometimes orca does not display anything since you move eg. the mouse arround. This is the reason why I do not use lightlocker. To lock the machine I switch to tty1 and use vlock -a HTH. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] Q: brltty and udev rules
Hi, it seems my laptop tries to run brltty with a systemd unit and there are also udev rules in /lib/udev/rules.d After disabling the systemd unit with systemctl disable brltty my cursor routing in brltty seems to work for now. The question remains that is the systemd unit an old unremoved one from the upgrade process or is it needed for running brltty correctly? Thx in advance. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] again cursor routing issue
Hi, Hope you have an Idea after reading the se lines: The log is from brltty 6.5. The host runs 6.4 2023-02-17@14:40:50.303 [brltty] BRLTTY 6.5 rev BRLTTY-6.5-260-g559c0858 [https://brltty.app/] 2023-02-17@14:40:50.303 [brltty] can't isolate namespaces 2023-02-17@14:40:50.303 [brltty] executing as the invoking user: halim 2023-02-17@14:40:50.304 [brltty] group not joined: 0(root) 2023-02-17@14:40:50.306 [brltty] CLDR data can't be loaded - no supported XML parser 2023-02-17@14:40:50.306 [brltty] emoji substitutiion won't be performed 2023-02-17@14:40:50.335 [brltty] Screen Driver: a2 [AtSpi2] 2023-02-17@14:40:50.346 [brltty] Braille Driver: ba [BrlAPI] Version:0.1, 2005 2023-02-17@14:40:50.347 [brltty] Speech Driver: sd [SpeechDispatcher] 2023-02-17@14:40:54.026 [cursor-routing] invalid async handle 2023-02-17@14:40:54.026 [cursor-routing] invalid async handle 2023-02-17@14:40:54.051 [cursor-routing] report listener already registered: 5: a2CoreSelUpdated 2023-02-17@14:40:54.945 [cursor-routing] invalid async handle 2023-02-17@14:40:54.945 [cursor-routing] invalid async handle 2023-02-17@14:40:54.970 [cursor-routing] report listener already registered: 5: a2CoreSelUpdated 2023-02-17@14:40:55.624 [cursor-routing] invalid async handle 2023-02-17@14:40:55.624 [cursor-routing] invalid async handle 2023-02-17@14:40:55.652 [cursor-routing] report listener already registered: 5: a2CoreSelUpdated 2023-02-17@14:40:56.064 [cursor-routing] invalid async handle 2023-02-17@14:40:56.064 [cursor-routing] invalid async handle 2023-02-17@14:40:56.092 [cursor-routing] report listener already registered: 5: a2CoreSelUpdated 2023-02-17@14:40:56.383 [cursor-routing] invalid async handle 2023-02-17@14:40:56.383 [cursor-routing] invalid async handle 2023-02-17@14:40:56.408 [cursor-routing] report listener already registered: 5: a2CoreSelUpdated 2023-02-17@14:40:56.542 [cursor-routing] invalid async handle 2023-02-17@14:40:56.542 [cursor-routing] invalid async handle 2023-02-17@14:40:56.567 [cursor-routing] report listener already registered: 5: a2CoreSelUpdated 2023-02-17@14:40:59.299 [brltty] deleting 28 28 past end of text ! 2023-02-17@14:40:59.762 [brltty] deleting 14 14 past end of text ! 2023-02-17@14:41:02.130 [brltty] deleting 5093 298 past end of text ! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] truoble with cursor routing in ubuntu 22.04
Hi Folks, Yesterday I upgraded my machine to ubuntu 22.04 LTS. Brltty version is now 6.4. In the terminal I run brltty -b ba -x a2 -s sd -N Problem: no cursor routing works there. Following message is from dmesg: cursor-routing[85595]: segfault at 0 ip 55bdcf4a2d24 sp 7f3569285b78 error 4 in brltty[55bdcf481000+84000] Code: 5b 41 5c c3 66 90 4c 89 e7 45 31 e4 e8 95 fd fd ff 48 83 c4 08 4c 89 e0 5b 41 5c c3 e8 35 44 fe ff eb d6 0f 1f 00 f3 0f 1e fa <48> 8b 3f e9 54 41 ff ff 0f 1f 40 00 f3 0f 1e fa 55 48 8b 2d 04 a1 Regards Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] Keyboard support HandyTech braille star 80 in brltty
Hi Folks, I've connected a Keyboard to my braillestar and use brltty 6.3. The display is connected via usb or serial (both tested). The keyboard works well most of the time but. 1. sometimes the pc doesn't get keyreleases reliably This results in blocked keyboard or hanging arrowkeys etc. 2. Somethimes the braille display freezes completely so it want a restart and switching to extern keyboard and back. to work again in brltty. Any ideas? Regards Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] 6.5 within a couple of weeks.
Hi, On Mon, May 09, 2022 at 05:43:59AM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Christian Schoepplein on 2022/05/09 at 10:39 +0200] > > >But lets take again the example when you type in a shell "ssl", press > >enter, type "ssh" and then go up one line. In this case brltty only > >speaks "l". This isn't the right behaviour IMHO because not the "l" > >is focused and its not the character where the cursor is positioned. > >The cursor is located behind the "l" so IMHO speaking "blank", or > >whatever is spoken for a empty sign, should be spoken. > > But wouldn't that be even more useless when using speech only? I'd > think that knowing what has changed, rather than what hasn't changed, > is more helpful. I agree with christian. Brltty should report the selected char and not the changed one. This would be the expected behaviour also comprared with other screenreaders. In Editors the expected behavour would be to read the complete Line. I don't know idf this might be configurable in brltty. BR. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: Improved choice selection in speech-enabled Debian installer
Am 13.04.22 um 23:47 schrieb Samuel Thibault: Hello, I have improved the choice selection in the speech-enabled Debian installer, please give it a try: https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/mini.iso The idea is that one can now not only type the number followed by enter, but also select the answer with the arrow keys and press enter to validate. Samuel Hi, looks good here. Thx a lot. BR. Halim
[BRLTTY] speechd: configuraable socketpath?
Hi, is it possible to configure the socketpath of the unix socket of speech-dispatcher in brltty.conf? Where does brltty expect the socket if running with the root user? Thx in advance. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] again cut and paste problem with brltty and at-spi screen driver
Hi, Thx!!! Regards Halim On Sun, Feb 06, 2022 at 03:41:18PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Halim Sahin, le mar. 01 févr. 2022 08:48:06 +0100, a ecrit: > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 01:13:31PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Halim Sahin, le lun. 31 janv. 2022 12:56:42 +0100, a ecrit: > > > > Example: > > > > copy the string with brltty in to clipboard and paste the contents. > > > > /abcd/ > > > > > > > > Result: > > > > / > > > > > > > > Brltty changes the first slash with &. > > > > > > > > This only happens when using a2 screendriver. > > > > Tested in xfce4-terminal. > > > > > > Does it happen only with the very first paste, or with all pastes? > > > > it happens with all pastes if you do not hit space between the pastes. > > Ok, I could write a simple reproducer. I have submitted it to xserver: > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1298 > > Samuel > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] again cut and paste problem with brltty and at-spi screen drivern
Hi Samuel, yes it is ctrl+shift+v and xbrlapi is running as well. I thought, that brltty is using its own clipboard so that never worked here. But I don't need to have the clipboard merged so I thought that brltty uses it's own clipboard. BR. halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] again cut and paste problem with brltty and at-spi screen driver
Hi, On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 01:13:31PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Halim Sahin, le lun. 31 janv. 2022 12:56:42 +0100, a ecrit: > > Example: > > copy the string with brltty in to clipboard and paste the contents. > > /abcd/ > > > > Result: > > / > > > > Brltty changes the first slash with &. > > > > This only happens when using a2 screendriver. > > Tested in xfce4-terminal. > > Does it happen only with the very first paste, or with all pastes? it happens with all pastes if you do not hit space between the pastes. > That being said, for pasting you should be able to just use > control-shift-V, which will directly paste from the brltty cutbuffer > into the application, without having to go through keypresses > simulation, thus much more robust. ctrl+shift+v doesn't paste anything. Is this a new feature after brltty 6.0? BR. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] again cut and paste problem with brltty and at-spi screen driver
Hi, could someone please test the following described issue with brltty 6.4? My machine runs ubuntu 20.04 with brltty 6.0. Example: copy the string with brltty in to clipboard and paste the contents. /abcd/ Result: / Brltty changes the first slash with &. This only happens when using a2 screendriver. Tested in xfce4-terminal. Br. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] BUG: cut and paste problem
Hi, I don't know if was intended behaviour :-(. If a user has some text copied in to brltty's clipboard and accidentaly hits cupslock, brltty pastes the copied text in uppercase as well. In my opinion brltty should paste the copied text unmodified. Tested with latest brltty from git. A second thing is: Brltty doesn't check the presence of python3-setuptools in the configure script. This produces an error in the build process of the python stuff. BR. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Making brltty speak
Hi again, if you're using a desktop as well you can reconfigure pulseaudio to store it's socket in /tmp. That way you can access one running pulseaudio from diferent user accounts. Another dirty hack is to set dmix for pulseaudio. That way it can not block the audio device and speechd can use alsa at the same time with pulseaudio. To get this working edit /etc/pulse/default.pa and search the line #load-module module-alsa-sink uncomment that line by remove the # and change it to load-module module-alsa-sink device=dmix a 3rd method: set a symlink so that user root can use speech-dispatcher of the desktop user. 1. logon as root 2. ln -sf /run/user/1000/speech-dispatcher/speechd.sock ~/.cache/speech-dispatcher/speechd.sock In Ubuntu 20.04 LTS> I use the last described setup. BR. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Making brltty speak
Hi Sébastien, if you want to use only plain consoles set audiooutputmethod in speechd.conf to EG. libao and uninstall pulseaudio. BR. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] please check needed version of hid stuff in configure scripts
Hi, On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 01:40:51PM -0500, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Halim Sahin on 2021/11/22 at 18:33 +0100] > > >see attachment. > > Those three macros are definitely not being defined. Which package is > your /usr/include/linux/hidraw.h in, and which version of that package > do you have? The file comes from linux-libc-dev. LANG="" apt-cache policy linux-libc-dev linux-libc-dev: Installed: 5.4.0-90.101 Candidate: 5.4.0-90.101 Version table: *** 5.4.0-90.101 500 500 http://ftp.thm.de/ubuntu/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 Packages 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 5.4.0-26.30 500 500 http://ftp.thm.de/ubuntu/ubuntu focal/main amd64 Packages HTH. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] please check needed version of hid stuff in configure scripts
Hi,
see attachment.
BR.
Halim Sahin
--
Dipl.-Inform. (FH) Halim Sahin
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/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 WITH Linux-syscall-note */
/*
* Copyright (c) 2007 Jiri Kosina
*/
/*
* This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
* under the terms and conditions of the GNU General Public License,
* version 2, as published by the Free Software Foundation.
*
* You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with
* this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc.,
* 51 Franklin St - Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA.
*/
#ifndef _HIDRAW_H
#define _HIDRAW_H
#include
#include
struct hidraw_report_descriptor {
__u32 size;
__u8 value[HID_MAX_DESCRIPTOR_SIZE];
};
struct hidraw_devinfo {
__u32 bustype;
__s16 vendor;
__s16 product;
};
/* ioctl interface */
#define HIDIOCGRDESCSIZE _IOR('H', 0x01, int)
#define HIDIOCGRDESC _IOR('H', 0x02, struct hidraw_report_descriptor)
#define HIDIOCGRAWINFO _IOR('H', 0x03, struct hidraw_devinfo)
#define HIDIOCGRAWNAME(len) _IOC(_IOC_READ, 'H', 0x04, len)
#define HIDIOCGRAWPHYS(len) _IOC(_IOC_READ, 'H', 0x05, len)
/* The first byte of SFEATURE and GFEATURE is the report number */
#define HIDIOCSFEATURE(len)_IOC(_IOC_WRITE|_IOC_READ, 'H', 0x06, len)
#define HIDIOCGFEATURE(len)_IOC(_IOC_WRITE|_IOC_READ, 'H', 0x07, len)
#define HIDRAW_FIRST_MINOR 0
#define HIDRAW_MAX_DEVICES 64
/* number of reports to buffer */
#define HIDRAW_BUFFER_SIZE 64
/* kernel-only API declarations */
#endif /* _HIDRAW_H */
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Re: [BRLTTY] please check needed version of hid stuff in configure scripts
Hi Dave, On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 03:48:26PM -0500, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Halim Sahin on 2021/11/21 at 12:29 +0100] > > >well now I could build latest brltty from git with > > > >./configure --without-hid-package > > > >I think my hid packages are outdated and brltty didn't check the needed > >versions. > > There are no HID packages as such. It does include , > which you must have, so it makes no sense to me that those macros > wouldn't be defined. How old is your Linux instllation? I am using ubuntu 20.04 lts Br. halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] please check needed version of hid stuff in configure scripts
Hi, well now I could build latest brltty from git with ./configure --without-hid-package I think my hid packages are outdated and brltty didn't check the needed versions. BR. halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] please check needed version of hid stuff in configure scripts
Hi, can you please check which versions are needed for hid support and disable drivers which need hid libraries? Currently I can not build brltty on ubuntu 20.04. I am getting: cd Programs && make all make[1]: Entering directory '/home/halim/brltty/Programs' ../getrevid -s -f revision_identifier.h -d unknown ../ gcc -I. -I. -I./../Programs -I../Programs -I../Headers -I./.. -I.. -D_DEFAULT_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=2 -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_XOPEN_SOURCE_EXTENDED -D_GNU_SOURCE -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -std=gnu99 -Wall -Werror=format-security -Wno-address-of-packed-member -Wno-stringop-truncation -fPIC -c ./revision.c ./tbl2hex -- ../Tables/Text/en-nabcc.ttb >ttb.auto.h gcc -I. -I. -I./../Programs -I../Programs -I../Headers -I./.. -I.. -D_DEFAULT_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=2 -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_XOPEN_SOURCE_EXTENDED -D_GNU_SOURCE -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -std=gnu99 -Wall -Werror=format-security -Wno-address-of-packed-member -Wno-stringop-truncation -fPIC -c ./ttb_translate.c ./tbl2hex -- ../Tables/Contraction/none.ctb >ctb.auto.h gcc -I. -I. -I./../Programs -I../Programs -I../Headers -I./.. -I.. -D_DEFAULT_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=2 -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_XOPEN_SOURCE_EXTENDED -D_GNU_SOURCE -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -std=gnu99 -Wall -Werror=format-security -Wno-address-of-packed-member -Wno-stringop-truncation -fPIC -c ./ctb_translate.c ./tbl2hex -- ../Tables/Attributes/left_right.atb >atb.auto.h gcc -I. -I. -I./../Programs -I../Programs -I../Headers -I./.. -I.. -D_DEFAULT_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=2 -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_XOPEN_SOURCE_EXTENDED -D_GNU_SOURCE -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -std=gnu99 -Wall -Werror=format-security -Wno-address-of-packed-member -Wno-stringop-truncation -fPIC -c ./atb_translate.c gcc -Wl,-export-dynamic -o brltty brltty.o core.o program.o pgmpath_linux.o pid.o options.o params_linux.o messages.o log.o log_history.o addresses.o file.o device.o parse.o variables.o datafile.o unicode.o utf8.o timing.o async_handle.o async_data.o async_wait.o async_alarm.o async_task.o async_io.o async_event.o async_signal.o thread.o queue.o lock.o dynld_dlfcn.o ports_glibc.o system_linux.o hostcmd.o hostcmd_unix.o revision.o pgmprivs_linux.o report.o config.o rgx.o rgx_libpcre2-32.o service_libsystemd.o activity.o prefs.o pref_tables.o profile.o menu.o menu_prefs.o ses.o status.o update.o blink.o dataarea.o cmd.o cmd_brlapi.o cmd_queue.o cmd_utils.o cmd_clipboard.o cmd_custom.o cmd_input.o cmd_keycodes.o cmd_learn.o cmd_miscellaneous.o cmd_navigation.o cmd_override.o cmd_preferences.o cmd_speech.o cmd_toggle.o cmd_touch.o clipboard.o learn.o pipe.o ttb_translate.o ttb_compile.o ttb_native.o charset.o charset_iconv.o ctb_compile.o cldr.o ctb_translate.o ctb_native.o ctb_external. o ctb_louis.o atb_translate.o atb_compile.o ktb_translate.o ktb_compile.o ktb_list.o ktb_cmds.o ktb_keyboard.o kbd.o kbd_linux.o kbd_keycodes.o bell.o bell_linux.o leds.o leds_linux.o alert.o tune_build.o message.o tune.o notes.o notes_beep.o beep.o beep_linux.o notes_pcm.o pcm.o pcm_alsa.o notes_midi.o midi.o midi_alsa.o notes_fm.o fm_adlib.o hidkeys.o drivers.o driver.o scr.o scr_utils.o scr_base.o scr_main.o scr_real.o scr_gpm.o scr_driver.o routing.o scr_special.o scr_frozen.o scr_help.o scr_menu.o brl.o brl_utils.o brl_input.o brl_driver.o brl_base.o io_misc.o io_log.o serial.o serial_termios.o usb.o usb_hid.o usb_devices.o usb_serial.o usb_adapters.o usb_cdc_acm.o usb_belkin.o usb_ch341.o usb_cp2101.o usb_cp2110.o usb_ftdi.o usb_linux.o bluetooth.o bluetooth_names.o bluetooth_linux.o hid.o hid_items.o hid_braille.o hid_linux.o gio.o gio_serial.o gio_usb.o gio_bluetooth.o gio_hid.o gio_null.o mntpt.o mntpt_mntent.o mntfs_linux.o crc_generate.o ihex.o ezusb.o spk.o spk_thread. o spk_driver.o spk_base.o spk_input.o api_control.o brlapi_server.o brlapi_keyranges.o auth.o-lsystemd -lasound -lasound -ldbus-1 -ludev -llouis -lexpat -lpcre2-32 -lpolkit-gobject-1 -lgio-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -licuuc -licudata -lbluetooth -lbluetooth -ldl -lcap -lgpm -lpthread /usr/bin/ld: hid_linux.o: in function `hidLinuxGetRawUnique': /home/halim/brltty/Programs/./hid_linux.c:231: undefined reference to `HIDIOCGRAWUNIQ' /usr/bin/ld: hid_linux.o: in function `hidLinuxSetReport': /home/halim/brltty/Programs/./hid_linux.c:130: undefined reference to `HIDIOCSOUTPUT' /usr/bin/ld: hid_linux.o: in function `hidLinuxGetReport': /home/halim/brltty/Programs/./hid_linux.c:119: undefined reference to `HIDIOCGINPUT' collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [Makefile:915: brltty] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/halim/brltty/Programs' make: *** [Makefile:49: all] Error 2 BR. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] papenmeier el80s and cut and paste
Hi, I am interested to know if someone could test cut and paste with a braillex el80s. On my machine at work it doesn't work for me. in Ubuntu 20.04 (brltty 6.0). Same ubuntu version and using a Handy Tech Braillestar 80 is works as expected. I.ll try to test it with latest git version as well soon. Maybe someone else uses that device and could help? Thx in Advance. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] OT: BrlAPI connection through rdp
Hi folks, since some time I am looking for a solution to use my brailledisplay with a rdp session. The only thing I've got running is to stop brltty, load the kernel drivers ftdi_sio and usbserial and redirect /dev/ttyUSB0 to the remote machine. This works with freerdp-x11. Doing it that Way isn't much practicable. Stopping brltty is bad if something goes wrong and then you have no chance to get feedback in braille from the client machine. If you know a better way to do that please help! BR. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: java-atk-wrapper: which files ar used in /run/user/1000/*
Hi Samuel, I am sorry I was not able to build java-atk-wrapper in debian sid as well. How did you build java-atk-wrapper on you machine? BR. Halim
Re: java-atk-wrapper: which files ar used in /run/user/1000/*
Am 31.08.21 um 10:30 schrieb Samuel Thibault: Hello Halim, Samuel Thibault wrote: Samuel Thibault, le jeu. 26 août 2021 01:09:46 +0200, a ecrit: > - jaw still relying on the AT_SPI_BUS X property (but possibly some > other toolkits do that as well, but on wayland it'll have to go > through a session bus anyway). I have fixed it in version 0.38.0-4 of jaw. Can you confirm that this version fixes your bug? Samuel Hi Samuel, the deps are hard for my system to try it out :-(. I.ll build a vm with debian unstable and build a git snapshot to test. I'll get back to you. BR. halim
Re: [BRLTTY] brltty and speech
Hi, one more thing for speech output with a2 screen driver: It would be great if a user could stop speaking by pressing ctrl key. Currently it seems keyboard support for brltty functions are missing in brltty when running it in EG. mate-terminal? BR. Halim On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 08:03:07PM +0200, Halim Sahin wrote: > Hi Dave, > > it would be a great start if we could improve existing speech features. > > First: > with autospeak enabled try to read a info page like > > info bash > > then type and hold down arrow key > > Result: brlltty stops reading the selected line > > An other thing is when using the a2 screendriver: > The message not an at-spi2 text widget should be dropped > or it should be configurable. > > my last point for now is the stuff with the focus for a2 screen driver > parameter which should > be re-added :-). > BR. > Halim > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] brltty and speech
Hi Dave, it would be a great start if we could improve existing speech features. First: with autospeak enabled try to read a info page like info bash then type and hold down arrow key Result: brlltty stops reading the selected line An other thing is when using the a2 screendriver: The message not an at-spi2 text widget should be dropped or it should be configurable. my last point for now is the stuff with the focus for a2 screen driver parameter which should be re-added :-). BR. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] 6.4 soon
Hi Dave, will the focus parameter for at-spi2 screen driver added again in brltty-6.4? BR. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
java-atk-wrapper: which files ar used in /run/user/1000/*
Hi, when a running desktop crashs or a user does sudo systemctl lightdm restart a11y including orca etc works as expected. Only java apps which use atk-wrapper is completely inaccessible. Then removing all files in /run/user/1000/* works or a full reboot. My Question is: which files are needed by java-atk-wrapper? It could be an issue of atk-wrapper if it can't determine some interfaces and use obsolete sockets etc. Thx in Advance. Regards halim
Re: [BRLTTY] Using BRLTTY with Orbit Reader 20 on Android and Windows with NVDA
Hi, How did you install brltty on windows? brltty can be installed in windows which works fine here in my qemu based windows vm. Press windows+u and select install brltty there. You have to select your braille driver there as well. Last Step is to enable brlapi service in windows. Per default brlapi service starts only with narrator. Press windows+r and type services.msc Find the brlapi service and change it's start behaviour. HTH. halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Problems when using brltty in the terminal
Hi, On Sun, May 09, 2021 at 04:35:27PM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Christian Schoepplein on 2021/05/09 at 22:04 +0200] > > >It would be really cool if you have another idea that could help. > > The AtSpi2 screen driver used to have a focus parameter which could > contrain it to terminal windows. We dropped that parameter when brlapi > priorities were introduced because that let tee AtSpi2 screen driver > drop its content quality when not on a terminal window, thus giving > brlapi preference to Orca. We didn't consider the possibility that > Orca wouldn't be using that brltty's brlapi interface. We could, > therefore, restore the focus parameter, but, for you, that'd mean > either waiting for 6.4 or using a development release. Of course, I'd > prefer that you'd use a development release so tat you can test it. > :-) Please let me know if the patch is in the development repo so I could test that as well. My brltty 6.0 doesn't have the double speech problem but other speech related problems which I hope to get a workarround with a new brltty version. Unfortunately we use Ubuntu 20.04 LTS at work and I couldn't find a ppa with newer Version of brltty so I have to build it myself. Thx in Advance Regards Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] android: braille star 40 and external keyboard supported?
Hi, found the problem :-). The ext keyboard switch has to be disabled. now the phone does something that I could not understand. Some keys like alt ctrl are not working. I am not sure if that must be configured somewhere but I.ll do more testing. Regards Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] android: braille star 40 and external keyboard supported?
Hi, these day I connected my braillestar 40 to my android phone. Is the external keyboard of the braillestar supported? Brailleinput worksAS EXPECTED :-). My phone runs android 10. Ciao. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] a2: howto stop speech with keyboard?
Hi, It seems that my brltty v6.0 can not be controled with keyboard when screendriver a2 is in use. Keyboard-table is set to deskitop but that works only in real tty's. Is there a way to get these keys to work in xfce-terminal as well? Regards Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Problems when using brltty in the terminal
Hi, I would be intersting to test our accessibility stuff with pipewire which will replace pulseaudio. @Christian: If you don't need pulseaudio switch back to alsa and use libao output driver. Running pulseaudio through dmix has some disadvantages if you want to use usb headsets. Dmix will break Autoswitching of audio output. HTH. Halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] speech in brltty when conntent begin to scroll probllem
Hi, Am 09.05.21 um 11:17 schrieb Dave Mielke: [quoted lines by halim.sa...@freenet.de on 2021/05/09 at 09:41 +0200] > For plain tty stuff with speech enabled I found some problems which > makes things dificult for me. Have you enabled autospeak? yes > When I read a man page with info brltty stops speaking when the screen > content starts to scroll. > This is also a problem when you read a txt file which has more lines > than the current tty has. The reason for that is that brltty simply reads what's on the screen. It's primary anchor point is the cursor. However: There's a setting you might want to try. In the Navigation Options submenu you'll find a setting called Track Screen Scroll. It tries to do what I think you want. It's known to work very well for IM screens. It works by remembering the content of the current line, i.e. the line you're reading in braille (not the line wehre the cursor is). As long as that line is on the screen, things tend to be okay. It has two weak points. One is if the current line's content also occurs on other lines, which means that it can't tell which line of all of those it should be following. The other is if the current line scrolls off the screen. Hmm has no effect here speech stopps when screen starts to scroll. The conntent on the brailledisplay is not affected only speech stopps working. Regards halim ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Fwd: Problems when using brltty in the terminal
Hi Samul, Goodpoint :-). Then a keyboard command for enablig/disabling that behaviour would be useful. Regards Halim Am 09.05.2021 12:40 schrieb Samuel Thibault :halim.sa...@freenet.de, le dim. 09 mai 2021 12:33:30 +0200, a ecrit: > just for understanding the reason why should brltty with a2 screen driver read > widgets outside gnome / xfce /lxde /mate terminal? Just because it can, which can be useful in case orca crashes. Samuel ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Fwd: Problems when using brltty in the terminal
Hi, just for understanding the reason why should brltty with a2 screen driver read widgets outside gnome / xfce /lxde /mate terminal? Does atspi provide information from which application the content is comming from? I would prefer orca to read all thing ousdide terminals and brltty with a2 screendriver read only things coming from the mentioned terminals. So we could use the best from both worlds. I hope Chris can give us feedback about brltty 6.3 and the type parameter. My brltty 6.0 does not read something outside terminals which is ok for me. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] speech in brltty when conntent begin to scroll probllem
Hi, Please excuse my bad English :-(. I am new in this list. I use brltty last years only for braille in orca. For plain tty stuff with speech enabled I found some problems which makes things dificult for me. When I read a man page with info brltty stops speaking when the screen content starts to scroll. This is also a problem when you read a txt file which has more lines than the current tty has. Maybe it is a setting in brltty which I did not find myself? Help welcome. Thx for your work on brltty. BR. Halim Sahin ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Fwd: Problems when using brltty in the terminal
Hi Dave, Yes, brltty should talk when a user enables speech. But It should _only_ talk in xfce/mate/gnome terminals and not when using the graphical desktop. On my Machine brltty 6.0 is in use in ubuntu 20.04 and that version of brltty works as described. I think the work on a2 driver in brltty 6.1 is the problem here. HTH. Halim Sahin Am 09.05.2021 08:22 schrieb Dave Mielke :[quoted lines by Samuel Thibault on 2021/05/08 at 20:29 +0200] >From: Christian Schoepplein >To: debian-accessibil...@lists.debian.org >Subject: Problems when using brltty in the terminal >Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 16:20:35 +0200 > >3. Edited the file /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xbrlapi and removed the "-s no" parameter for the startcommand of brltty. ... >But it seems, and that is totaly not understandable for me, that the brltty also is able to read things in ghe graphical environment. Wehn I open the application menu for example with Alt + F1 the entries are also outputed by the speech system, when no Orca and also only the brltty in the terminal with speech support is running. I'm not fully understanding, but that's probably because I don't work within the graphical environment. What I'm not understanding is that he enables brltty speech and then wonders why its speaking. It seems that both brltty and orca are speaking, but, if so, why did he enable brltty speech? -- I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ Dave Mielke | 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
some keys dont go to guest when using -display gtk
Hi List, build qemu-6.0 on my ubuntu focal machine. All seems working well so far. Some Problems apeared which I wanted to share with you :-). qemu-system-x86_64 -M q35 -enable-kvm ... -display gtk Some keys can not be used in the Guest EG.: capslock, insert, numpad keys ... Using the sdl display output works as expected. Help is welcome! Regards Halim
Re: java-atk-wrapper in ubuntu 20.04
Am 18.10.20 um 19:22 schrieb Samuel Thibault: Hello, Halim Sahin, le sam. 17 oct. 2020 09:55:45 +0200, a ecrit: there seems to be a problem with atkwrapper in Ubuntu focal. When I run a java application orca reads nothing and the app itself seems to be crashed. Which application is this? Is this a known problem? No, otherwise it would either be fixed, or the package would have been dropped out of release-critical-bug-ness. Samuel Hi Samuel, the app is called mediathekview. apt install mediathekview Here the first screen where you can do some settings is allready inaccessible. HTH. Halim -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
java-atk-wrapper in ubuntu 20.04
Hi, there seems to be a problem with atkwrapper in Ubuntu focal. When I run a java application orca reads nothing and the app itself seems to be crashed. My workaround is to use the atkwrapper packages from ubuntu 18.04. Is this a known problem? Regards halim -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: How to switch Libao to Alsa?
Am 19.08.20 um 15:57 schrieb Vojtěch šmiro: Hello, how to switch Libao to Alsa in Ubuntu on Raspberry Pi 4B 4 GB RAM? I have Ubuntu Mate 20.04 32 bit for Arm. Espeak on Libao speaks scarry. Thanks. Best regards Vojta. Hi, edit /etc/libao.conf and change first line to default_driver=alsa Regards Halim -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: using kvm with brltty
Hi Samuel, The problem that brltty / brlapi inside qemu doesn't work in ubuntu is the missing sdl output. I've build qemu from sourcen with sdl support and now it works. Is it planed to add support for gtk or curses output as well? Both output methods don't work with brlapi support. MfG. Halim Am 10.10.20 um 17:15 schrieb Samuel Thibault: Halim Sahin, le ven. 09 oct. 2020 19:30:06 +0200, a ecrit: well updated qemu to 5.0 from ppa on ubuntu 20.04. running brltty inside qemu-kvm displays nothing on the braille display. As I mentioned previously, please send the whole content from the brltty log inside the guest, for us to look. Otherwise we have no way to have the slightest idea of what is happening. Samuel
Re: using kvm with brltty
Am 10.10.20 um 17:15 schrieb Samuel Thibault: Halim Sahin, le ven. 09 oct. 2020 19:30:06 +0200, a ecrit: well updated qemu to 5.0 from ppa on ubuntu 20.04. running brltty inside qemu-kvm displays nothing on the braille display. As I mentioned previously, please send the whole content from the brltty log inside the guest, for us to look. Otherwise we have no way to have the slightest idea of what is happening. Samuel Hi, Here it comes. I set log-level server in brltty.conf as you wrote in a previous mail. Regards Halim 2020-10-12@17:40:13.976 [brltty] BRLTTY 6.0 rev BRLTTY-6.0 [http://brltty.app/] 2020-10-12@17:40:13.981 [brltty] BrlAPI Server: release 0.7.0 2020-10-12@17:40:13.981 [server-main] server: server thread started 2020-10-12@17:40:13.996 [brltty] NoSpeech Speech Driver: 2020-10-12@17:40:14.000 [server-main] server: socket creation started: 1 2020-10-12@17:40:14.000 [server-main] server: creating socket: 1 (127.0.0.1:4101) 2020-10-12@17:40:14.001 [server-main] server: socket 1 created (fd 17) 2020-10-12@17:40:14.001 [server-main] server: socket creation finished: 1 2020-10-12@17:40:14.004 [server-main] server: socket creation started: 0 2020-10-12@17:40:14.004 [server-main] server: creating socket: 0 (LOCAL:0) 2020-10-12@17:40:14.004 [server-main] server: socket 0 created (fd 24) 2020-10-12@17:40:14.004 [server-main] server: socket creation finished: 0 2020-10-12@17:40:14.012 [brltty] Unexpected Packet: 7E 2020-10-12@17:40:14.012 [brltty] Unexpected Packet: 00 2020-10-12@17:40:14.014 [brltty] Unexpected Packet: FE 37 2020-10-12@17:40:14.014 [brltty] state 1 2020-10-12@17:40:14.014 [brltty] Unexpected Packet: FE 37 2020-10-12@17:40:14.014 [brltty] state 1 2020-10-12@17:40:14.014 [brltty] HandyTech Braille Driver: version 0.6 2020-10-12@17:40:14.014 [brltty] server: api link 2020-10-12@17:40:14.492 [brltty] Linux Screen Driver: 2020-10-12@17:40:14.492 [brltty] server: api unlink 2020-10-12@17:40:15.002 [server-main] BrlAPI connection fd=29 accepted: local 2020-10-12@17:40:15.008 [server-main] server: received GetDisplaySize request on fd 29 2020-10-12@17:40:15.008 [server-main] server: received EnterTtyMode request on fd 29 2020-10-12@17:40:15.008 [server-main] server: allocated tty 0x0007 2020-10-12@17:40:15.008 [server-main] server: fd 29 taking control of tty 0x0007 (how=0) 2020-10-12@17:40:15.008 [server-main] server: received IgnoreKeyRanges request on fd 29 2020-10-12@17:40:15.008 [server-main] server: fd 29 range: [..] 2020-10-12@17:40:15.009 [server-main] server: received AcceptKeyRanges request on fd 29 2020-10-12@17:40:15.009 [server-main] server: fd 29 range: [..1fff] 2020-10-12@17:40:15.009 [server-main] server: received AcceptKeyRanges request on fd 29 2020-10-12@17:40:15.009 [server-main] server: fd 29 range: [204d..204d] 2020-10-12@17:40:15.009 [server-main] server: received AcceptKeyRanges request on fd 29 2020-10-12@17:40:15.009 [server-main] server: fd 29 range: [204e..204e] 2020-10-12@17:40:15.009 [server-main] server: received AcceptKeyRanges request on fd 29 2020-10-12@17:40:15.009 [server-main] server: fd 29 range: [204f..204f] 2020-10-12@17:40:15.009 [server-main] server: received AcceptKeyRanges request on fd 29 2020-10-12@17:40:15.009 [server-main] server: fd 29 range: [2050..2050] 2020-10-12@17:40:15.009 [server-main] server: received IgnoreKeyRanges request on fd 29 2020-10-12@17:40:15.009 [server-main] server: fd 29 range: [000c..000c] 2020-10-12@17:40:15.009 [server-main] server: received SetFocus request on fd 29 2020-10-12@17:40:15.009 [server-main] server: focus on window 0x036076c1 from fd29 2020-10-12@17:40:18.495 [brltty] server: api link 2020-10-12@17:40:21.726 [server-main] server: received SetFocus request on fd 29 2020-10-12@17:40:21.726 [server-main] server: focus on window 0x04db from fd29 2020-10-12@17:40:21.727 [server-main] server: received SetFocus request on fd 29 2020-10-12@17:40:21.727 [server-main] server: focus on window 0x04db from fd29 2020-10-12@17:40:21.811 [server-main] server: received SetFocus request on fd 29 2020-10-12@17:40:21.811 [server-main] server: focus on window 0x006e from fd29 2020-10-12@17:40:21.886 [server-main] server: received SetFocus request on fd 29 2020-10-12@17:40:21.886 [server-main] server: focus on window 0x006e from fd29 2020-10-12@17:40:22.306 [server-main] BrlAPI connection fd=27 accepted: local 2020-10-12@17:40:22.308 [server-main] server: received GetDisplaySize request on fd 27 2020-10-12@17:40:22.308 [server-main] server: received EnterTtyMode request on fd 27 2020-10-12@17:40:22.308 [server-main] server: tty 0x0007 ok 2020-10-12@17:40:22.308 [server-main] server: fd 27 taking control of tty 0x0007 (how=0) 2020-10-12@17:40:22.309 [server-main] server: received
Re: using kvm with brltty
Hi, well updated qemu to 5.0 from ppa on ubuntu 20.04. running brltty inside qemu-kvm displays nothing on the braille display. My guest operating system was debian buster. BR. Halim
Re: using kvm with brltty
Hi Samuel, I.ll try that setup again with a fresh ubuntu 20.04 setup. My machine was updated from 18.04. Alls seems working well and there is a log entry when qemu start in brltty.log but I can't get any output on the host. I se nothing wrong in the log except 2020-09-16@10:43:09.908 [brltty] Unexpected Packet: 9F Thx. Halim
Re: using kvm with brltty
Hi, yes, orca works fine. what about xbrlapi? Does qemu use it? MfG. Halim
Re: using kvm with brltty
Hi,
Am 16.09.20 um 09:40 schrieb Samuel Thibault:
Halim Sahin, le mer. 16 sept. 2020 08:13:37 +0200, a ecrit:
Am 15.09.20 um 10:38 schrieb Samuel Thibault:
> Halim Sahin, le mar. 15 sept. 2020 10:17:57 +0200, a ecrit:
> > $WINDOWSID is not set on my machine :-(, who sets it?
>
> How are you running kvm? In the console? In X? In Wayland?
I run qemu in xfce4-terminal and don't use wayland.
I run qemu like this:
#!/bin/bash
export WINDOWPATH=${WINDOWPATH:+${WINDOWPATH}:}$WINDOWID
qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -display curses \
-full-screen -m 4G -soundhw hda \
-usb -device usb-braille,chardev=char0 -chardev braille,id=char0 \
-drive file=myimage.img,if=virtio
tested with netinst iso as well.
I see no braille output.
I just tried it and it worked.
Just to make sure: did you press enter to pass the boot menu?
yes.
Maybe its a problem with brltty 6.0 orca libbrlapi on the host?
Does brlapi write a log where we can see if qemu connects to brltty or not?
MfG.
Halim
Re: using kvm with brltty
Hi Samuel,
Am 15.09.20 um 10:38 schrieb Samuel Thibault:
Halim Sahin, le mar. 15 sept. 2020 10:17:57 +0200, a ecrit:
How does this work $WINDOWID is this an environment variable?
It should be when you are running under X.
OK.
$WINDOWSID is not set on my machine :-(, who sets it?
How are you running kvm? In the console? In X? In Wayland?
I run qemu in xfce4-terminal and don't use wayland.
I run qemu like this:
#!/bin/bash
export WINDOWPATH=${WINDOWPATH:+${WINDOWPATH}:}$WINDOWID
qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -display curses \
-full-screen -m 4G -soundhw hda \
-usb -device usb-braille,chardev=char0 -chardev braille,id=char0 \
-drive file=myimage.img,if=virtio
tested with netinst iso as well.
I see no braille output.
MfG.
Halim
Re: using kvm with brltty
Hi, my misstake sorry now I have a terminal where windowid is set. Will test and report (thx). MfG. Halim
Re: using kvm with brltty
Hi Samuel,
I am confused a bit.
How does this work $WINDOWID is this an environment variable?
$WINDOWSID is not set on my machine :-(, who sets it?
Should your mentioned bug reported to upstream?
Regards Halim
Am 14.09.20 um 21:53 schrieb Samuel Thibault:
Hello,
Halim Sahin, le lun. 14 sept. 2020 10:29:15 +0200, a ecrit:
Now I tried to use kvm to install a debian buster vm.
qemu-system-x86_64 -m 4G -usb -usbdevice braille -cdrom debian...netinst.iso
.
qemu starts up and info usb in qemu console displays a braille device but
nothing was displayed on the connected braille display.
It seems a bug slipped in indeed for the non-sdl display case. You can
run
export WINDOWPATH=${WINDOWPATH:+${WINDOWPATH}:}$WINDOWID
before calling qemu-system-x86_64, and use -display curses, so the
braille input/output correctly gets routed through your terminal window.
Samuel
using kvm with brltty
Hi, my host pc is running ubuntu 20.04 with brltty 6.0. Now I tried to use kvm to install a debian buster vm. qemu-system-x86_64 -m 4G -usb -usbdevice braille -cdrom debian...netinst.iso . qemu starts up and info usb in qemu console displays a braille device but nothing was displayed on the connected braille display. Ideas? Regards Halim
[Gajim-devel] audiocals not working in gajim in ubuntu 20.04
Hi, Now conversations support audio / video calls. I wanted to try if this is compatible with gajim but no luck. Could you please have a look into this? Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gajim/command_system/implementation/middleware.py", line 64, in execute_command parents.execute_command(name, arguments) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gajim/command_system/framework.py", line 106, in execute_command value = cmd(self, *args, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gajim/command_system/framework.py", line 161, in __call__ return self.handler(*args, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gajim/command_system/implementation/standard.py", line 204, in audio state = self._audio_button.get_active() AttributeError: 'ChatControl' object has no attribute '_audio_button' Gajim is 1.3.1-2. Thx in advance. BR Halim Sahin ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
[Gajim-devel] gajim-remote doesn't detect running gajim
Hi, I am using gajim 1.0.1 in ubuntu 18.04. My desktop environment is xfce. When I run gajim and switch to a terminal gajim-remote check_gajim_running allways returns false. How does gajim-remote detect a running gajim? MfG. Halim ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: orca and remote apps from ssh session
Hi Samuel, Seems you've looked into this in the past :-). It might be useful for some remote sessions for my daily work but can't implement this myself. Thx for your answer! MfG. Halim Sahin
orca and remote apps from ssh session
Hi, Any one who got this working? In some cases it might be useful to run an app (in ssh) and get feedback from local running orca. Thx in Advance. Halim
[g-a-devel] accessibility of remote apps (ssh)
Hi, Maybe there is no way to do that then i.ll stop searching the net :-). Is there a working setup to use at-spi2 atk alltogether using a ssh session? EG: running a remote firefox or other gnome app and get feedback from local running orca? Thx. Halim ___ gnome-accessibility-devel mailing list gnome-accessibility-devel@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-devel
Re: a11y of lxqt
Hi, Ok,, it was my fault sorry. Installed lxqt again on my buster vm. sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager There select lxqt. Orca libatk ... are from buster-backports. Now the desktop seems accessible :-). To run orca use simply alt+f2 and type orca. Like in other enviroments :-). Regards halim
a11y of lxqt
Hi, Is lxqt accessible in debian Buster? Regards halim
Re: Using Mbrola with BRLTTY
Hi, On Sa, Jul 28, 2018 at 10:51:59 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Halim Sahin, le sam. 28 juil. 2018 10:10:23 +0200, a ecrit: On Fr, Jul 27, 2018 at 03:17:30 +0200, Ali Gürler wrote: > > is there any chance to use the mbrola voices with BRLTTY? Yes if you write a speech-dispatcher generic module for txt2pho and mbrola and add it to speechd.conf Note that there already exists an espeak-mbrola-generic.conf file using the generic module, to do this. Yes but it doesn't use txt2pho which produces better german phonemes compared with espeak. Unfortunately it supports only german and is not OS. Unfortunately debian soesn't ship the de2 voice. It does since Stretch. Great!! Thx. Halim
Re: Using Mbrola with BRLTTY
Hi, On Sa, Jul 28, 2018 at 12:24:20 +0200, Sebastian Humenda wrote: Halim Sahin schrieb am 28.07.2018, 10:10 +0200: On Fr, Jul 27, 2018 at 03:17:30 +0200, Ali Gürler wrote: is there any chance to use the mbrola voices with BRLTTY? Yes if you write a speech-dispatcher generic module for txt2pho and mbrola and add it to speechd.conf What about using espeak's mbrola phoneme generation? This avoids yet another non-free binary and is packaged in Debian :). Last time I tried the phoneme generation of espeak (German) was realy bad compared with txt2pho. Have you espeak and mbrola running on your machine? MfG. Halim
Re: Using Mbrola with BRLTTY
Hi Ali, On Fr, Jul 27, 2018 at 03:17:30 +0200, Ali Gürler wrote: is there any chance to use the mbrola voices with BRLTTY? Yes if you write a speech-dispatcher generic module for txt2pho and mbrola and add it to speechd.conf I would like to do so, but I don't find any documentation. tart installing all components I.ll send you a working mbrola-generic.conf. You need: txt2pho from (github) alsa-utils and mbrola from debian repos: make sure that you have non-free enabled. Unfortunately debian soesn't ship the de2 voice. You can download it from the mbola website. MfG. Halim Regards, Ali
[vdr] OT: problem with Technotrend ct2-4400
Hi, I've trying to get that stick working. Driver loads, firmware is available but I can't find any channels using w_scan. The following output from dmesg seems the problem or not??? si2157 7-0060: unknown chip version Si210-si2157 7-0060: unknown chip version Si 210- utput comes after trying to tune or scan for channels. Any Ideas what is wrong here? MfG. Halim ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org https://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: No speech in recent stretch?
Hi, On Di, Okt 27, 2015 at 01:59:14 +0100, Mario Lang wrote: > I ended up deinstalling pulseaudio, so that I can at least have music in > X11. But I dont have any speech output at all. You can change audio output method from pulse to libao in speechd.conf like this: AudioOutputMethod "libao" Don't forrget to remove the '#'. Then you should get sound as expected. HTH. Halim
Re: No speech in recent stretch?
Hi, I don't think that what Mario wrote has something to do with speech-dispatcher. He wrote that orca running in gdm session talks so it must be an other issue here. On So, Okt 25, 2015 at 12:23:27 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > I have just uploaded the newer release of speech-dispatcher (0.8.3) in > experimental, it includes various fixes, perhaps you can give it a try? > > Samuel > >
Re: Pluseaudio, speech-dispatcher, and console + graphical screen readers
Hi, On Di, Okt 06, 2015 at 08:49:07 +1100, Luke Yelavich wrote: > Currently work is ongoing to refactor the audio code in Speech > Dispatcher. However, this probably could be done even now, and is likely > the way to go given that the new code in Speech DIspatcher has no ETA on > release, as there are other improvements also being made. Could you please explain how the refactoring will help solving the described issues? Will speech-dispatcher work for console screenreaders and orca running on the same machine? What's is not working in speechd and must be refactored to work with pulseaudio? Regards Halim
Re: Pluseaudio, speech-dispatcher, and console + graphical screen readers
Hi, On Fr, Okt 02, 2015 at 03:41:59 +, Sam Hartman wrote: > the latency you're talking about there is very close to what you'd see > if you restart the streat between speech-dispatcher and pulseaudio and > that restarts the alsa stream within pulseaudio. My prefered setup doesn't restart alsa streams in pa. Pa is installed and can be used in the graphical desktop etc. Speech-dispatcher uses alsa. > > Actually, I do have hard data on this. I use espeak with emacspeak > through pulseaudio directly without speech-dispatcher. Which is a different approach and not much comparable :-(. Are you using orca as well?
Re: Pluseaudio, speech-dispatcher, and console + graphical screen readers
Hi, I am not sure if I got it right. If you want to shutdown connection to pa every time after speechoutput this will produce latency and would reduce responsiveness of speechd. Responsiveness is an important thing for a11y Applications. Maybe there is an easy fix for accessible installations of debian: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio#ALSA.2Fdmix_without_grabbing_hardware_device These steps could be configured if someone installs debian with brltty or with speech. Please try it out! Regards Halim
error in speech-dispatcher init script in debian stable
Hi, if [ x$RUN != xyes ... will not allow to enable speechd in /etc/default/speech-dispatcher when setting RUN=yes I am aware that running speechd in system mode is not recommended but I see no reliable working setup for using plain text consoles. Using pulseaudio for speechd will not work with eg. brltty's speech output. Today I tried to install xfce. All worked fine except sound through pulseaudio. It started muted and I was not able to get sound. I am using a sblive which should allow concurent sound output. Regards Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150725094922.ga20...@intel.heim
Re: restart of brltty not working correctly
Hi Samuel, I've did more testing and found that must be an issue in the systemd service file of brltty. Have looked into the brltty debug file but don't see any critical output. Restart takes sometimes 10 sec or longer. Btw.: I can reproduce that problem with my handytech brlstar40 as well. The Problem seems the stop action in the systemd service file. systemctl stop brltty The service file was not modified! HTH. Halim On Do, Jul 09, 2015 at 10:29:08 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, Halim Sahin, le Tue 30 Jun 2015 14:23:31 +0200, a écrit : When I try to systemctl restart brltty The shell freezes. I must reconnect my brailledisplay (el80s) to get brltty running again. On brl...@mielke.cc, Dave requests debug logs: for instance, uncomment log-level debug and log-file /tmp/brltty.log from /etc/brltty.conf Also, he asks whether you have perhaps modified /lib/systemd/system/brltty.service Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150709082908.ga18...@type.u-picardie.fr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150712074944.ga1...@intel.heim
restart of brltty not working correctly
Hi, When I try to systemctl restart brltty The shell freezes. I must reconnect my brailledisplay (el80s) to get brltty running again. Ideas? MfG. Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150630122331.GA1851@debian.local
Re: brltty handy tech issue
Hallo Mario, I used Brltty from jessie and my Display is a braillestar 40. It is connected via usb. MfG. Halim On Di, Jun 02, 2015 at 12:22:35 +0200, Mario Lang wrote: Halim Sahin halim.sa...@freenet.de writes: Hi, Brltty doesn't accept any key on the brailledisplay if it displayed a frequently chaning content. EG.: start playing a file in mplayer with the std status line on the bottom of the display turned on. After some time the handytech braille keys don't work any more. restarting brltty helps. What display model and BRLTTY version are you using? I have never seen this issue, and I use mpv regularily, which should show this issue. -- CYa, ⡍⠁⠗⠊⠕ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150603062924.ga...@intel.heim
brltty handy tech issue
Hi, Brltty doesn't accept any key on the brailledisplay if it displayed a frequently chaning content. EG.: start playing a file in mplayer with the std status line on the bottom of the display turned on. After some time the handytech braille keys don't work any more. restarting brltty helps. Regards Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150528092114.GA1506@debian.local
Trouble with brltty-speechd in jessie
Hi, When I open a text in EG. vim and start to read it with the arrowkeys on the keyboard, brltty stops speech when the bottom of the screen is reached and brltty start to scroll the screen. I am using brltty-speechd with espeak but it's not related to the speechdriver because brlty-espeak produces same result. Ideas??? MfG. Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150525081935.ga...@intel.heim
Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR version 2.2.0 released - Celebrating 15 years of VDR!
Hi, Congratulations. Thx for all of your work! Regards Halim ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] looking for workingvaapi config for xineliboutput
Hi, I am trying to setup my new vdr using an intel hd graphic device. Could you please post a working config for xineliboutput? MfG. Halim ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
orca and iceweasel in debian wheezy not working well since iceweasel 31 upgrade
hi, Currently orca doesn't work very well with currently shipped iceweasel 31 version in debian stable. I was told that a mapping should be added to orca for loading the correct firefox script. I did some testing and found that some tracesbacks in orca don't happen. The mentioned addition doesn't fix all problems :-(. It's hard to describe it but it's not usable in it's current combination. I am now thinking about upgrading to testing. Regards Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141026100154.GA3147@gentoo.local
Re: solution to the problem of orca and gecko not working in non-gnome environment
Hi, I would prefer to fix it in debian's directory structure and not in iceweasel package. It should be possible to use an upstream firefox without recompiling it under debian when using xfce etc. Just my two cents. MfG. Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140311170703.GA27880@gentoo.local
systemd and accessible vt's
Hi all, Last week I've read about a rfc in systemd which tries to implement vt in userspace. In that case config_vt in kernel don't need to be set. If someone tries to remove vt support from kernel completely we.ll loose a great, stable environment. Afaik sbl and brltty depend on /dev/vcs* /dev/tty* /dev/console ... to read the plain console. Perhaps it will never replace plain vt in kernel but: In the past we got many other projects which were developed with great new features but they produced many a11y related bugs. What do you think? Regards Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131203171728.GA3590@gentoo.local
Re: systemd and accessible vt's
Hi, On Di, Dez 03, 2013 at 06:59:13 +0100, Sebastian Humenda wrote: Halim Sahin schrieb am 03.12.2013, 18:17 +0100: Last week I've read about a rfc in systemd which tries to implement vt in userspace. In that case config_vt in kernel don't need to be set. If someone tries to remove vt support from kernel completely we.ll loose a great, stable environment. This is not fully true, though. BRLTTY and SBL could then run as less-privileged processes and wouldn't need root privileges therefore. Well if someone writes new screereading routines for that this might be true but: It should now the time to figure out: * how early boot messages should be read No not really, First step would be how to implement screenreading in such environment. * what happens after the user logs in: * e.g. end the login-specific screen reader and replace it through a user-specific instance (as with orca) Now and here comes the point I don't like. Currently I don't know any distro which has got this setup running stable for endusers. My PC in the office starts orca in gdm3. That process hangs and consumes 100% cpu power after login to gnome. and so forth. If we find a solution, we actually get a better experience than before. Well I am not sure about this. It's more an oportunity, I think. Perhaps if screenreading would be possible in their environment. Regards Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131203184657.GA4118@gentoo.local
[vdr] a bit OT: receiving free iptv channels in germany
Hi, Using the iptv plugin I tried to watch some german Stations like das Erste, Phoenix etc. It seems unfortunately that only entertain provides these channels and (I don't have it). Is there a way to watch these stations without t-home entertain? Some working examples for channels.conf would be great! Have a nice Day. Regards Halim ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: Accessibility as a reason to switch to XFCE?
Hi all, In my point of view debian should really change it's default desktop to xfce because of the systemd requirement of gnome. I am not happy with current situation but debian support other os's as well and systemd is only available for Linux. At this time I.ll whant to say thx to all people who work on a11y in gnome and debian. Unfortunately some guys in gnome project made anoying decisions. Most are design related. A big mistake is the decision for systemd dependency. It's really bad that new software like systemd or pulseaudio will make things hard to handle in linux based systems. Pulseaudio broke a11y for console screenreaders few years ago and I see no work in that area. Systemd will force gnome to use the linux kernel and so other systems like bsd's will get trouble to use it. @Mario: +1 it was a bad time to freeze wheezy and ship gnome 3.4 but we should make it better in next stable :-). Just my two cents. Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131109131546.GA31071@gentoo.local
Re: [vdr] vdr 1.7 - 2.1 upgrade tips (FHS)
Hi, Have a look to Make.config.template if you want to use vdr 2.x like 1.6 running in one single dir! Regards halim ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] reelchannelscan: scan abborted
Hi, reelchannelscan seems not working here when trying to scan for dvb-t channels. Other stuff dvb-c/s not tested. I get scan aborted and nothing happens. Is this problem known or where can I donwload latest version of that plugin for plain vdr? Regards Halim ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Problem running lxde and iceweasel in wheezy
Hi, Ok it seems gnome-3.4 is not much usable in wheezy due to posted stability problems. Unfortunately xfce is at 4.8. so I installed lxde and got a11y working except iceweasel. What I did: export GNOME_ACCESSIBILITY=1 export MOZILLA_ACCESSIBILITY=1 export GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge Now iceweasel report when started in terminal gtk accessibility module initialized. Thats it. Orca can't read anything inside firefox/iceweasel. I have also tested a plain firefox from mozilla.org (same result). Any idea what's wrong there? Thx in advance. Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130706090410.GA15166@gentoo.local
