Re: [Alsa-user] Newbie: Problems connecting virtual MIDI ports

2006-07-28 Thread Clemens Ladisch
Paul Jensen wrote: I really appreciate your help. I've made some progress, although I do find it a bit strange. Basically, as I understand it, I've got aconnect transferring MIDI controller (20:0) events to /dev/midi02 (24:0), and have csound listening on 24:0. So, after reading your

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h * Takashi Iwai [Thu, Jul 27 2006, 01:12:34PM]: At Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:40:12 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 20:30 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: Hello, I try to make my 5.1 speaker set work properly on an SB Live! Player with Alsa from kernel 2.6.17.

Re: [Alsa-user] snd-dummy sound driver

2006-07-28 Thread csarid
Should I just install the driver only or should I install any of the other stuff at the site -- such as OSS lib etc.. Thanks!Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, csarid wrote: Bill, Thanks for the suggestions. I did look and search through the /lib/modules directory and their

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Arthur Marsh
Eduard Bloch wrote: ... Honnestly, the current set of mixer controls is cumbersome. $user can hardly understand what all the controls are good for, and mixer software is not user-friendly either. The Live! mixer from Creative gives you a joystick control where you can move the marker around

Re: [Alsa-user] Install ALSA on 2.6.17 kernel

2006-07-28 Thread Clemens Ladisch
Daniel Kraft wrote: No sound at all, although I get some entries in the ALSA devices (or so) list printed on kernel startup. Install alsa-utils and set the mixer levels with alsamixer. The default is muted because this setting is guaranteed not to blow up the speakers. There should be some

Re: [Alsa-user] snd-dummy sound driver

2006-07-28 Thread Bill Unruh
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, csarid wrote: Should I just install the driver only or should I install any of the other stuff at the site -- such as OSS lib etc.. Thanks! Install them all. Especially alsa-lib. This is weird-- this is the third time I have seen this post. Is there something at the

Re: [Alsa-user] snd-dummy sound driver

2006-07-28 Thread csarid
Bill,Thanks very much for all your suggestions. I think at this point, I'm going with a system that has a 2.6 kernel in which all of this is working fine. I have to devide-n-conquer and moving to the 2.6 kernel solved the problem. Thanks again for all your help!Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 12:47 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: Yes, I talk about useability which just sucks. I imagine a more clear frontend/backend infrastructure, an ultimate solution: - access to all backend settings is exported with consistent, fixed names (keywords) - a wrapper in the

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 12:47 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: Could I get a copy of that patch? Check the alsa-devel archive. Honnestly, the current set of mixer controls is cumbersome. $user can hardly understand what all the controls are good for, and mixer software is not user-friendly either.

[Alsa-user] How to change channel names on Audigy?

2006-07-28 Thread Lukas Zapletal
Hello, I would like to change my channel names. My mixers (gnome-mixer, alsamixergui) doesnt separate input and output channels and I have to guess which Microphone is the recording channel and which Microphone is the recording playback volume. Same with Aux-Aux, Aux 2-Aux2 etc. on my Audigy.

Re: [Alsa-user] How to change channel names on Audigy?

2006-07-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 20:21 +0200, Lukas Zapletal wrote: Hello, I would like to change my channel names. My mixers (gnome-mixer, alsamixergui) doesnt separate input and output channels and I have to guess which Microphone is the recording channel and which Microphone is the recording

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:07:51 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 12:47 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: Yes, I talk about useability which just sucks. I imagine a more clear frontend/backend infrastructure, an ultimate solution: - access to all backend settings is

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 21:48 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: If you, the developers, have already written the driver and know how it works, what hardware specs do you need ? It's the documentation issue and/or HAL issue. The guy expresses my thoughts very well. I'm glad yet another end user

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:52:55 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 21:48 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: If you, the developers, have already written the driver and know how it works, what hardware specs do you need ? It's the documentation issue and/or HAL

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Bill Unruh
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:07:51 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 12:47 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: Yes, I talk about useability which just sucks. I imagine a more clear frontend/backend infrastructure, an ultimate

[Alsa-user] No /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss (mmap'ing OSS app)

2006-07-28 Thread Matthias Czapla
Hi! I'm running Debian 3.0 Sarge with Linux 2.6.17.6 on a Nforce4 motherboard with integrated sound. So I'm using the snd-intel8x0 ALSA driver which is working fine otherwise. But sound isn't working in the game Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, only the infamous error: --- sound

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:07:51 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 12:47 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: Yes, I talk about useability which

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: What I know, is that when I bought M-Audio Revoluion 7.1 - fully supported by ALSA, I couldn't make capture loopback work - documentation said nothing on it. Blah blah blah, same old inflammatory complaints, no offer to help...

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:49:16 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: What I know, is that when I bought M-Audio Revoluion 7.1 - fully supported by ALSA, I couldn't make capture loopback work - documentation said nothing on

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:03 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: Did you help the guy with M-Audio Revolution 5.1 ? I DID tell him everything I knew based on my M-Audio Revolution 7.1, but, apparently, the cards are different. Are you satisfied that yet another ALSA end user stepped on the same

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: My logic is simple: * if you are saying that a feature is supported, this means you've tested it - otherwise you are simply irresponsible. You're assuming that ALSA developers have access to every sound card that ALSA supports which

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:10:36 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:03 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: Did you help the guy with M-Audio Revolution 5.1 ? I DID tell him everything I knew based on my M-Audio Revolution 7.1, but, apparently, the cards are

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:20:57 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: My logic is simple: * if you are saying that a feature is supported, this means you've tested it - otherwise you are simply irresponsible. You're

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:38:03 +0300 Sergei Steshenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:20:57 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: My logic is simple: * if you are saying that a feature is supported, this

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: Do you, the developers, test the card before announcing it as supported ? No, the ALSA developers rely on feedback from users to determine what is supported. The ALSA developers only have access to a small fraction of the supported

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:47 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: It should be 'why', not 'what' in what the controls for each tested feature You don't seem to understand that vendors can customize the hardware such that the same mixer controls do different things on different devices. The only

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:47:37 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: Do you, the developers, test the card before announcing it as supported ? No, the ALSA developers rely on feedback from users to determine what is

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:54 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: Then what was exactly the report claiming that M-Audio Revolution 5.1 indeed worked ? Where can end users find in order to read it ans assess its credibility ? That is, to see whether the end user indeed checked the featured

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:52:08 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:47 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: It should be 'why', not 'what' in what the controls for each tested feature You don't seem to understand that vendors can customize the hardware such

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:20:57 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: My logic is simple: * if you are saying that a feature is supported, this means you've tested it - otherwise you

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:20:57 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: My logic is simple: * if you

[Alsa-user] No master channel in alsamixer

2006-07-28 Thread james nagy
When I bring up alsamixer there is no master option so I cannot unmute the master channel. I think this is the reason whyI cannot hear sound.Mplayer seems to play a file with alsa but no sound is coming out of the card. Alsamixer starts with headphone as the first oprion (no master):

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:20:57 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:20:57 -0400

Re: [Alsa-user] Inconsistent mixer controls (SB Live!, Surround speakers)

2006-07-28 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote: