Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-31 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] But the question is, for a given amount of money ($400 in the OP case) for which do you get the bigger bang ( or the better soundstage) for the buck. I would argue that it is for the headphone route.

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-30 Thread Bill Unruh
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Uli wrote: Bill Unruh unruh at physics.ubc.ca writes: [snip] There is a real problem between price and quality and exactly what you want with the end result. As I said, if you are handy with tools, making your own speakers is probably the way to go, but that is useless

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-30 Thread Chris Smith
On Saturday 28 July 2007, Uli wrote: I wanna get rid of my 10 year old crappy speakers and I'm looking for some really high class speakers and sound card. http://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/03/what_about_bose.html Sound Card Suggestions... PCI:

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-30 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007, Sergei Steshenko wrote: To all who are thinking about real 5.1 versus headphones - do not forget at least two important things: 1) sound perception greatly depend on reverberation, so a headphones solution should take care of this too; reverb in an 8x10 room is totally

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-29 Thread David Deutsch
Bill Unruh wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Uli wrote: David Deutsch skOre at skOre.de writes: Bose is known to color sound in a certain way. Its called the bose sound. In the end its down to whether you like it or not. You should definitely do some thorough testing. I heard

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-29 Thread Uli
Bill Unruh unruh at physics.ubc.ca writes: [snip] You have only two ears. The only difference in the sound coming in from the back is a fall off in the high freq response above about 1KHz (shielding by your ears. If you happen to have no outer ears there will be absolutely no difference. If

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-29 Thread Uli
David Deutsch skOre at skOre.de writes: Bill Unruh wrote: [snip] I have no idea what simulated 5.1 is. You only have two ears. And no number of speakers will alter that. Of course not. But what you can do is compute how the sound would come out if it were 5 speakers. Yes you have

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-29 Thread David Deutsch
Uli wrote: It also comes at the prize of a very specific speaker setup. According to a review I've read bose recommends that the speakers are about 60cm in front of you, facing straight ahead, and that the distance between the two is also about 60cm. Anything else and surround sound is gone.

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-29 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007, Uli wrote: Bill Unruh unruh at physics.ubc.ca writes: [snip] You have only two ears. The only difference in the sound coming in from the back is a fall off in the high freq response above about 1KHz (shielding by your ears. If you happen to have no outer ears there will

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-29 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007, David Deutsch wrote: Uli wrote: It also comes at the prize of a very specific speaker setup. According to a review I've read bose recommends that the speakers are about 60cm in front of you, facing straight ahead, and that the distance between the two is also about 60cm.

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-29 Thread David Deutsch
Bill Unruh wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2007, David Deutsch wrote: Uli wrote: It also comes at the prize of a very specific speaker setup. According to a review I've read bose recommends that the speakers are about 60cm in front of you, facing straight ahead, and that the distance between the two

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-29 Thread Sergei Steshenko
To all who are thinking about real 5.1 versus headphones - do not forget at least two important things: 1) sound perception greatly depend on reverberation, so a headphones solution should take care of this too; 2) sound localization greatly depends on humans' ability to instinctively rotate

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-29 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/28/2007 07:18 PM, Uli wrote: Does anyone have any experience with the bose companion 5? Is it known to work with the usb-audio driver? Is the sound really 5.1? I saw that OSS has some bose specific support in oss/cs4232.c. Didn't see anything in the alsa sources though...might that

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-29 Thread Jamie Lokier
Bill Unruh wrote: Ok, say I'd be willing to pay 2k max for a complete 5.1 setup including sound card, amp, and speakers. What would you suggest? The 5.1 is most likely created by psychoacoustic effects, so it can always only be simulated 5.1 - without a sub: no .1! I have no idea what

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-29 Thread Uli
Bill Unruh unruh at physics.ubc.ca writes: [snip] There is a real problem between price and quality and exactly what you want with the end result. As I said, if you are handy with tools, making your own speakers is probably the way to go, but that is useless if you are not. The cheap ( about

[Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-28 Thread Uli
Hi! I wanna get rid of my 10 year old crappy speakers and I'm looking for some really high class speakers and sound card. I did some research and it seems that the Bose Companion 5 provides a very good solution. It includes both - USB sound card and speakers - and people say that it really gives

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-28 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Uli wrote: Hi! I wanna get rid of my 10 year old crappy speakers and I'm looking for some really high class speakers and sound card. I did some research and it seems that the Bose Companion 5 provides a very good solution. It includes both - USB sound card and

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-28 Thread David Deutsch
Bose is known to color sound in a certain way. Its called the bose sound. In the end its down to whether you like it or not. You should definitely do some thorough testing. Wanting optimal sound at 400$ plus surround sound is ludicrous. You will indeed be far better off buying decent headphones

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-28 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, David Deutsch wrote: Bose is known to color sound in a certain way. Its called the bose sound. In the end its down to whether you like it or not. You should definitely do some thorough testing. Wanting optimal sound at 400$ plus surround sound is ludicrous. You will

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-28 Thread Uli
Bill Unruh unruh at physics.ubc.ca writes: [snip] Your better bet is to buy yourself a good set of headphones a small amp and a good soundcard. Headphones are far easier to make good No small speaker ( and I assume you are not going to be mounting 20 litre speakers near your computer) can do

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-28 Thread Uli
David Deutsch skOre at skOre.de writes: Bose is known to color sound in a certain way. Its called the bose sound. In the end its down to whether you like it or not. You should definitely do some thorough testing. I heard it's strong mids...I like that but I'd definitely wanna hear it first

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-28 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Uli wrote: Bill Unruh unruh at physics.ubc.ca writes: [snip] Your better bet is to buy yourself a good set of headphones a small amp and a good soundcard. Headphones are far easier to make good No small speaker ( and I assume you are not going to be mounting 20 litre

Re: [Alsa-user] Bose Companion 5 - any experiences?

2007-07-28 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Uli wrote: David Deutsch skOre at skOre.de writes: Bose is known to color sound in a certain way. Its called the bose sound. In the end its down to whether you like it or not. You should definitely do some thorough testing. I heard it's strong mids...I like that but