Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-11 Thread Daren Krive
Hi everyone, I have found this discussion quite interesting and informative. However (and I don’t mean to sound negative) but I am **really** hoping someone can help me out with my particular case: 1) Sound DOES work for the first few minutes after rebooting particularly if I have not run Linux

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-11 Thread stan
Daren Krive wrote: Hi everyone, I have found this discussion quite interesting and informative. However (and I don’t mean to sound negative) but I am **really** hoping someone can help me out with my particular case: 1) Sound DOES work for the first few minutes after rebooting

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-10 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 23:09:45 -0400 Lee Revell rlrev...@joe-job.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Jamie Lokierja...@shareable.org wrote: But that doesn't explain why new kernels every few months behave so differently on my Intel HDA laptop. Because a patch that makes sound work

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-10 Thread John Haxby
Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 23:09:45 -0400 Lee Revell rlrev...@joe-job.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Jamie Lokierja...@shareable.org wrote: But that doesn't explain why new kernels every few months behave so differently on my Intel HDA laptop.

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-10 Thread Jamie Lokier
John Haxby wrote: On the other hand, the hda hardware in the machines I've had is seriously lacking in quality and I'd much rather pay more money and go for something else, something that sounds nice. Something which, alas, is rather impractical for 50% of all PCs sold these days, which are

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-10 Thread Steven Hicks
I completely agree, but I just bought a CM108 USB sound card from NewEgg. Its $19 and I've probably spent a lot more time trying to get an Intel HDA working. Why is there a need to keep a bunch of different drivers under the same package? The Linux drivers do not have a history of attempting

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-10 Thread Daren Krive
I am running the latest version of Ubuntu 9.04 - so whatever version of Alsa comes with that I have already run the script you mention. The output is here: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=9e5b4548ded9b389661b0e669ecb5cd7364ff973 I have a Realtek ALC883 soundcard. What happens is that if

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-09 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Jamie Lokierja...@shareable.org wrote: But that doesn't explain why new kernels every few months behave so differently on my Intel HDA laptop. Because a patch that makes sound work on one laptop can break sound on another laptop. Due to the design of HDA, the

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-08 Thread Daren Krive
Hi Bill, On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Bill Unruh un...@physics.ubc.ca wrote: Nope. sound works fine on mine. Note that alsa is now on .19, and .12 is ancient. I did not mean that I was running Alsa .12. I am running the latest that comes with Ubuntu 9.04. I simply meant that according to

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-08 Thread Daren Krive
I am all over the idea of getting a Linux friendly laptop the next time I go shopping. So far I know enough to stay away from: 1) ATI video cards 2) Intel HDA sound anything else I should be aware of? I still want to get decent hardware. Can someone recommend a laptop brand that typically has

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-08 Thread Steven Hicks
The difficult thing about this is that its hard to know that you are getting an Intel HDA setup. I got a NVidia chipset and it ended up being a Intel HDA. Also watch out for VIA video cards, they are awful and have poor Linux support (yes they have drivers but its locked down to kernel and

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-08 Thread lists
I'm an ATI fan, but I have to agree Nvidia linux support is better. On Suse, they has their own repository set up. I gave up on HDA in favor of a C-media based XS71 soundcard. You can only spend so much time beating your head against the wall before $30 US sounds like a bargain.

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-08 Thread Jamie Lokier
li...@lazygranch.com wrote: I'm an ATI fan, but I have to agree Nvidia linux support is better. On Suse, they has their own repository set up. Heh. To be honest I always avoid Nvidia for Linux. Intel graphics first, because they actively support open source Linux drivers, and push forward

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-08 Thread Matthew Patenaude
Oddly enough, my ATI card sets up much easier (and extremely stable) than my brother's Nvidia, and my sound has worked great since Ubuntu 7.10, on a HDA intel chip. I have full functionality with headphones, externals, mic, and all. I don't recommend my machine (a Gateway MT6451) per se, but it

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-08 Thread Matthew Patenaude
Actually, with Ubuntu 9.04, my ATI has full 3D effects immediately upon installation, without having to enable proprietary drivers. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Matthew Patenaude mnglfid...@gmail.comwrote: Oddly enough, my ATI card sets up much easier (and extremely stable) than my

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-08 Thread Steven Hicks
ATI's support has gotten better over the years.. I have a R280 card and the driver took a little bit of work to get working (then again I upgraded from a NVidia g 440mx. -Steven Hicks Graduate Student Department Of Computer Science University Of North Carolina at Charlotte On Monday 08

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-08 Thread gary
I see there is an ATI video repository for Suse. I'll give it another shot. No problem with Nvidia drivers and 3D. Incidentally, Google Earth runs a bit better under linux than windows. There are a few features in the Linux version missing from the windows version, but I've gone too far off

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-07 Thread Jamie Lokier
Daren Krive wrote: I do not mean to be negative but I am seriously wondering. Do most Linux users simply learn to live without sound? Or live with sound that does not operate as expected? I have been searching for over a year on how to get sound working on my LG QB01A9

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-07 Thread Steven Hicks
From my experience (two different laptops) I've never have been able to stablize the driver. I've always had a hitch or two. My previous laptop everything worked by the headphones (required a third party patch just to get working) and they only played in the left ear (except when used through

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-05 Thread John Haxby
Daren Krive wrote: I have been using Ubuntu for about a year now and prior to that I was an big Suse fan (it still holds a soft spot in my heart). Overall I am VERY impressed with the quality of open source software. Ubuntu in particular impresses me with it's polished and professional

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-05 Thread Arthur Marsh
Daren Krive wrote, on 2009-06-05 08:59: Dear list, I have been using Ubuntu for about a year now and prior to that I was an big Suse fan (it still holds a soft spot in my heart). Overall I am VERY impressed with the quality of open source software. Ubuntu in particular impresses me with

[Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-04 Thread Daren Krive
Dear list, I have been using Ubuntu for about a year now and prior to that I was an big Suse fan (it still holds a soft spot in my heart). Overall I am VERY impressed with the quality of open source software. Ubuntu in particular impresses me with it's polished and professional appearance right

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-04 Thread Bill Unruh
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Daren Krive wrote: Dear list, I have been using Ubuntu for about a year now and prior to that I was an big Suse fan (it still holds a soft spot in my heart). Overall I am VERY impressed with the quality of open source software. Ubuntu in particular impresses me with

Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?

2009-06-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Daren Krive daren.kr...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP I do not mean to be negative but I am seriously wondering.  Do most Linux users simply learn to live without sound?  Or live with sound that does not operate as expected?  I have been searching for over a year on how