Re: [Alsa-user] about jitter... (digital does NOT mean perfect)

2007-12-01 Thread Paolo Saggese
On Saturday 1 December 2007 02:15, Rene Herman wrote: > Hey, don't apologise, I'm enjoying these messages. I do absolutely need to > comment on that last bit there though as all the hype I'm _ever_ hearing is > quite the other way around -- how old analogue is so obviously better then > anything c

Re: [Alsa-user] about jitter... (digital does NOT mean perfect)

2007-12-01 Thread Paolo Saggese
On Friday 30 November 2007 18:18, Bill Unruh wrote: > > Nevertheless, from a "perceptual" point of view, reasonable amounts > > of "analogue artifacts" (modulation) seems to be much more "benign" > > to our ears (brain, actually) than most currently common levels of > > "digital artifacts". > > Yo

Re: [Alsa-user] about jitter... (digital does NOT mean perfect)

2007-11-30 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 06:40:20 +0100 Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 01-12-07 06:12, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > > > On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 02:15:55 +0100 > > Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On 30-11-07 17:55, Paolo Saggese wrote: > >> > >>> This may seem (and should be) an

Re: [Alsa-user] about jitter... (digital does NOT mean perfect)

2007-11-30 Thread Rene Herman
On 01-12-07 06:12, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 02:15:55 +0100 > Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 30-11-07 17:55, Paolo Saggese wrote: >> >>> This may seem (and should be) an obvious statement... was it not for >>> the massive marketing hype trying (and often succee

Re: [Alsa-user] about jitter... (digital does NOT mean perfect)

2007-11-30 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 02:15:55 +0100 Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 30-11-07 17:55, Paolo Saggese wrote: > > > This may seem (and should be) an obvious statement... was it not for > > the massive marketing hype trying (and often succeeding) to convince > > everyone of the contrary. 8-

Re: [Alsa-user] about jitter... (digital does NOT mean perfect)

2007-11-30 Thread Rene Herman
On 30-11-07 17:55, Paolo Saggese wrote: > This may seem (and should be) an obvious statement... was it not for > the massive marketing hype trying (and often succeeding) to convince > everyone of the contrary. 8-) > > OK, we ended up quite OT... sorry. Hey, don't apologise, I'm enjoying these m

Re: [Alsa-user] about jitter... (digital does NOT mean perfect)

2007-11-30 Thread Bill Unruh
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Paolo Saggese wrote: > > On Friday 30 November 2007 13:15, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > >> I am sorry, but all the above said can be summarized in very few sentences: >> >> 1) any phase/frequency modulation produces a signal with infinite >> spectrum; > [...] > > well, sure... as

Re: [Alsa-user] about jitter... (digital does NOT mean perfect)

2007-11-30 Thread Bill Unruh
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:19:55 +0100 > Paolo Saggese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > I am sorry, but all the above said can be summarized in very few sentences: > > 1) any phase/frequency modulation produces a signal with infinite > spectrum;

Re: [Alsa-user] about jitter... (digital does NOT mean perfect)

2007-11-30 Thread Paolo Saggese
On Friday 30 November 2007 13:15, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > I am sorry, but all the above said can be summarized in very few sentences: > > 1) any phase/frequency modulation produces a signal with infinite > spectrum; [...] well, sure... as far as one knows what all that means. I tried to expla

Re: [Alsa-user] about jitter... (digital does NOT mean perfect)

2007-11-30 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:19:55 +0100 Paolo Saggese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] I am sorry, but all the above said can be summarized in very few sentences: 1) any phase/frequency modulation produces a signal with infinite spectrum; 2) analog recordings additionally have jitter due to tape el

[Alsa-user] about jitter... (digital does NOT mean perfect)

2007-11-30 Thread Paolo Saggese
ouch, some mails from the list get caught in the spam filter. This will be a very late answer... :-( On Thursday 22 November 2007 20:49, you wrote: > Just a random thought on jitter - if you like music recorded originally > before the digital era - don't bother. > > I.e. analog tape recorder wow