[Amforth] Easy Start without Atmel Studio 6 possible?

2013-10-08 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Hello, i just want to try Amforth and downloaded the sources. Now i read that i must have Atmel Studio 6 just for compiling Forth. It seems that only a Assembler is needed, so why download an install a monster package of 638 MB? Is this not possible with a smaller solution like this here ? http

Re: [Amforth] Easy Start without Atmel Studio 6 possible?

2013-10-08 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
p;id=859&showinfo=1 What's about this application notes? Is it not possible to ask Atmel if it is possible to ship the needed files for this opensource project? Cheers Karsten Am 08.10.2013 19:22, schrieb Artem Kim: > I only can do this using studio4 > On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 19:

Re: [Amforth] Easy Start without Atmel Studio 6 possible?

2013-10-08 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Are this appnotes missing? karsten@PC10:/srv/test/amforth-5.1/appl/template$ make template.hex wine ../../Atmel/avrasm2.exe -I ../../Atmel/Appnotes2 -I ../../core -I ../../core/devices/atmega1284p -fI -v0 -e template.eep.hex -l template.lst template.asm err:winedevice:ServiceMain driver L"IOPor

Re: [Amforth] Easy Start without Atmel Studio 6 possible?

2013-10-08 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Am 08.10.2013 20:57, schrieb Matthias Trute: > >> Are this appnotes missing? > Yes. They are copyrighted by Atmel and thus not part of amforth. > For the Atmega32 you may have luck with the files from avra, but > I don't know about their legal status. > > Matthias > O.K. Now i tried to compile wit

Re: [Amforth] Easy Start without Atmel Studio 6 possible?

2013-10-08 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Am 08.10.2013 20:57, schrieb Matthias Trute: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > >> Are this appnotes missing? > Yes. They are copyrighted by Atmel and thus not part of amforth. > For the Atmega32 you may have luck with the files from avra, but > I don't know about their legal sta

Re: [Amforth] Easy Start without Atmel Studio 6 possible?

2013-10-09 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Hello Erich, Am 09.10.2013 07:43, schrieb Erich Waelde: > Hello, > >> But there are much errors for the ATMega32: >> >> @/srv/test/amforth-5.1/appl/template$ make template.hex >> wine ../../Atmel/avrasm2.exe -I ../../Atmel/Appnotes -I ../../core >> -I ../../core/devices/atmega32 -fI -v0 -e templat

Re: [Amforth] Easy Start without Atmel Studio 6 possible?

2013-10-09 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Am 09.10.2013 19:31, schrieb Matthias Trute: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello, > >> At this moment i am sceptical about the produced code, because >> after converting hex to bin i get 30447 bytes with a big block of >> FF in the middle ? > That's right. You may want to st

Re: [Amforth] Easy Start without Atmel Studio 6 possible?

2013-10-09 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Am 09.10.2013 19:51, schrieb Matthias Trute: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello, > >> What i can found within the assembler is this License.rtf for the >> assembler. >> >> "Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or >> without >> >> modification, are permitt

[Amforth] Easy Start with AMForth and ATMega32

2013-10-12 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Hello, i am not as fast as i want, but today i could setup my Test-system with an ATMega32 developement board and AMForth. It does not run. :-( There is nothing transmitted over the RS232. First thing i wonder about is when i convert the template.hex to a binary file: $ hex2bin template.hex hex

[Amforth] Heavy Start with AMForth and ATMega32

2013-10-12 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Hello, for hardware security i tested that the communication with the UART works. I wrote the attached "Hello world" with an additional counter output that works perfect. But when i program the Forth there comes nothing over the UART. :-( I have no idea how to proceed? Best regards Karsten --

Re: [Amforth] Easy Start with AMForth and ATMega32

2013-10-12 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Hello Erich, Am 12.10.2013 12:01, schrieb Erich Waelde: > Hello Karsten, > > On 10/12/2013 10:53 AM, developm...@decotrain.de wrote: > > Well, attaching .hex files does not really help, imho. > If you need to attach code, use the .asm or the .lst file(s). Done this time. >

Re: [Amforth] Easy Start with AMForth and ATMega32

2013-10-12 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Now it comes up again - i don't know what happened before ... amforth 5.1 ATmega32 > 24 42 + . 66 ok > 36 30 - . 6 ok Thank You! Now i must spend time to read the manual and expreiment with forth. In a week i have holidays and this will be interesting ... Cheers Karsten ---

[Amforth] Correct fuses for ATMega32

2014-10-15 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Hello, what should be the correct settings of the fuses for an ATMega32? In the makefile i find only the hint that the fuses should be set. But what is the correct setting? MCU=atmega32 # set the fuses according to your MCU LFUSE=0xnn HFUSE=0xnn --

[Amforth] Compiling failed with AMForth 5.5 for ATMega32

2014-10-15 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Hello, i tried to compile the newest Release for AMForth 5.5. $ make wine ../../Atmel/avrasm2.exe -I ../../Atmel/include -I ../../core -I ../../core/devices/atmega32 -fI -v0 -e template.eep.hex -l template.lst template.asm err:winedevice:ServiceMain driver L"IOPort" failed to load ../../core\dr

Re: [Amforth] Compiling failed with AMForth 5.5 for ATMega32

2014-10-15 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
I tried the same without any options for the UART - I got the same result. The same errors i get with AMForth 5.4 In AMForth 5.1 i had the problem that i get it compiled, but it does not start. It starts only sometimes. I tried AMForth 5.2 but here i have 101 Errors: $ make wine ../../Atmel/av

Re: [Amforth] Correct fuses for ATMega32

2014-10-16 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Hello Matthias, thank you for the answer, but everything you have written was clear before - sorry. I have quoted the relevant part before: --- zip -- http://amforth.sourceforge.net/TG/Hardware.html#fuses Fuses are the main cause for problems with

Re: [Amforth] Compiling failed with AMForth 5.5 for ATMega32

2014-10-16 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Hello Matthias, you are answering to my second email where i tested older versions of AMForth. Interesting is why it fails in AMForth 5.5? --- zip -- $ make wine ../../Atmel/avrasm2.exe -I ../../Atmel/include -I ../../core -I ../../core/devices/at

Re: [Amforth] Correct fuses for ATMega32

2014-10-16 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Hello Matthias, i have tested now every possible permutation of the lfuse bits. With BODEN (brownout) activated or not and with SUT 01 or 10. Nothing works! The only configuration that works was hfuse = 80 lfuse = AF (SUT 10 CKSEL BODEN) That is for Crystal Oscillator > 8MHz and fast ris

[Amforth] Which firmware is for which Pollin board?

2014-10-16 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Hello together, I found a ready compiled firmware for an ATMega32 in this path: .../amforth-5.5/appl/eval-pollin/ I tried this one because it seems to be compiled for an ATMega32: avrdude -c usbasp -p m32 -U flash:w:p32-8.hex:i avrdude -c usbasp -p m32 -U eeprom:w:p32-8.eep.hex:i The firmware

Re: [Amforth] Which firmware is for which Pollin board?

2014-10-16 Thread developm...@decotrain.de
Hello Am 16.10.2014 12:36, schrieb Hannu Vuolasaho: > That is 8MHz binary. I thought you had 16MHz system. Yes - that's right. But i don't understand the sources, because there is no clean set of configuration for each binary. > Now the rest is just about which baud binary works. 9600 19200 and