[AMRadio] hamfest tubes

2004-08-16 Thread Patrick Jankowiak
yep.. saw a 4-1000 at a hamfest, looked well used, the guy wanted $135 for it, when I asked for a guarantee that it was reasonably good, he lowered the price to $50, so I suspected.. and passed. "sure it's good, hilk hilk.. nope, not mine, belongs to a buddy, hilk hilk.." No way to test something

[AMRadio] Re: AMRadio Digest, Vol 7, Issue 16

2004-08-16 Thread Patrick Jankowiak
That's at -26dB, to allow the usual 6KHz without bizzarre filtering. I think it is to sugest a curve of a filter which would be easy to implement. >>And, just for the sake of me knowing, why would you (or ANY AM'er for that >>matter want to have audio that was 9kc wide?

[AMRadio] Re: Proposed AM 9 KHz BW limitation

2004-08-16 Thread Patrick Jankowiak
Ok, I'll ramble on about it. I have a few vague points. The cited article seems to be mostly about digital bandwidths and segregating the subbands by bandwidth rather than emission type. It does mention an AM bandwidth limitation of -26dB@ 9 KHz. (I wonder how many 6SN7's it would take to buil

Re: [AMRadio] filament voltages

2004-08-16 Thread Geoff/W5OMR
> It is only necessary to reduce filament voltage by a few tenths of a volt, > which is not going to hurt anything. The first thing you should do is check and > monitor your power line voltage. Mine varies during the day by +5 volts! A > variac is the easiest way to control it but you have to b

Re: [AMRadio] filament voltages

2004-08-16 Thread Dennis Pharr
This link might be helpful for this discussion: http://www.cpii.com/eimac/index.html Care and Feeding of Power Grid Tubes by Eimac.

Re: [AMRadio] filament voltages

2004-08-16 Thread W4AWM
It is only necessary to reduce filament voltage by a few tenths of a volt, which is not going to hurt anything. The first thing you should do is check and monitor your power line voltage. Mine varies during the day by +5 volts! A variac is the easiest way to control it but you have to be able

Re: [AMRadio] filament voltages

2004-08-16 Thread Geoff/W5OMR
> The theory that I have seen holds that the cathode of a tube is > protected against ion bombardment by the electrons it emits. When > the emission capability of the tube is not exceeded, the cathode > tries to emit too many electrons, but they have nowhere to go, so > they cluster around the c

Re: [AMRadio] filament voltages

2004-08-16 Thread Geoff/W5OMR
> Too low of a filament voltage WOULD be detrimental to the tube life, BUT > reduced PLATE voltage while maintaining full filament voltage WILL > extend the tube's overall lifespan. > > That's an area that I agree with Don completely! > > It's the one place that variac use on start up of an ol

Re: [AMRadio] filament voltages

2004-08-16 Thread Geoff/W5OMR
> >Of course, we know that running voltages that are too high will kill the > >life expectancy of the tube, by why is running too little voltage bad for the > >tube, if it's developing full emmission at a lower voltage? > > I think low voltage would be ok as long as you are not exceeding the curren

Re: [AMRadio] filament voltages

2004-08-16 Thread Bob Bruhns
The theory that I have seen holds that the cathode of a tube is protected against ion bombardment by the electrons it emits. When the emission capability of the tube is not exceeded, the cathode tries to emit too many electrons, but they have nowhere to go, so they cluster around the cathode and b

Re: [AMRadio] Warren ARA Hamfest Report

2004-08-16 Thread David Knepper
Don, is this same fest that used to cover a few acres at the campus location? Thank you again for these reports. Dave, W3ST Publisher of the Collins Journal Secretary to the Collins Radio Association www.collinsra.com Nets: 3805 Khz, Monday/Wednesdays 8 PM EDST 14250 Khz Saturday, 12 N

Re: [AMRadio] filament voltages

2004-08-16 Thread Rbethman
Too low of a filament voltage WOULD be detrimental to the tube life, BUT reduced PLATE voltage while maintaining full filament voltage WILL extend the tube's overall lifespan. That's an area that I agree with Don completely! It's the one place that variac use on start up of an older stored rig

RE: [AMRadio] filament voltages

2004-08-16 Thread Donald Chester
A while back, you said something about running too little voltage on the older big jugs, like 833's, 250THs, 4-1000's, etc... Of course, we know that running voltages that are too high will kill the life expectancy of the tube, by why is running too little voltage bad for the tube, if it's d

[AMRadio] Warren ARA Hamfest Report

2004-08-16 Thread Merz Donald S
I attended the Warren ARA hamfest in Warren Ohio yesterday. It was about an hour and 45 minutes drive for me--longer than I would have liked, but easy to find. Fest management was excellent and the breakfast food was good. They had space for probably 200 vendors and about 35 showed up. Many of

[AMRadio] filament voltages

2004-08-16 Thread Geoff/W5OMR
Calling K4KYV, Don, from W5OMR. Many wise and sage advices have been given out by your station in the past, Don, including one I use still, this very day; "Running your AM Rig without a 'scope, is like driving your car at night without headlights" (-Don/K4KYV AM/PX) A while back, you said somethi

[AMRadio] FS: Misc BA Gear

2004-08-16 Thread Merz Donald S
FS: Misc BA Gear Military WWII TS-34/AP ocilloscope. These WWII-era tst oscilloscopes with their distinctive shape and rubber viewing hood used to be common in surplus. But like the command sets, now they are somewhat harder to find. This one is in nice original shape and has the rubber hood. $39

Re: [AMRadio] Proposed AM 9 KHz BW limitation

2004-08-16 Thread Edward B Richards
I see that the 9 kc bandwidth is at -26 db (not dbm in which 0 db is set at 1 mw). -26 is way down there. Normally bandwidth is measured at -6 db, the half way point. Since the sides slope, what is the bandwidth at -6 db? It could easily be 6 kc or so. 73, Ed Richards K6UUZ On Mon, 16 Aug 200

Re: [AMRadio] Proposed AM 9 KHz BW limitation

2004-08-16 Thread Mark Miller
Since we are talking AM I think the audio would have to be 4.5 kc wide to produce an AM signal at 9kc -26dBm. 73 Mark N5RFX At 10:02 PM 8/15/2004, you wrote: And, just for the sake of me knowing, why would you (or ANY AM'er for that matter want to have audio that was 9kc wide?

Re: [AMRadio] Proposed AM 9 KHz BW limitation

2004-08-16 Thread Mark Miller
Traditionally AMers have been opposed to any bandwidth enumeration. Look at the history of docket 20777. I just am wondering if this is still the case? I hope not. 73, Mark N5RFX And, just for the sake of me knowing, why would you (or ANY AM'er for that matter want to have audio that was

Re: [AMRadio] RE: Bandwidth Proposal

2004-08-16 Thread Vince Wesa Werber
Don is right I remember well the first attempt of 'bandwidth' limits on the bands... We need to watch this close... very close 73 Vince ka1iic -.--. On Monday 16 August 2004 04:25 am, Donald Chester wrote: > One problem I see is that the FCC has a habit of twisting rulemaking > requests

[AMRadio] RE: Bandwidth Proposal

2004-08-16 Thread Donald Chester
One problem I see is that the FCC has a habit of twisting rulemaking requests to fit its own agenda as the actual rules are formulated, and sometimes the end result has little resemblence to the original proposal. Those who were around in the mid 70's will recall a similar plan was proposed