Re: [AMRadio] Ranger Audio... the numbers

2006-11-17 Thread Jack Schmidling
Gary Schafer wrote: Check at the center tap of the mod driver transformer with your scope and see if you see anything there. Could be a bad or missing bypass cap there. It's brand new but I didn't have a 15mf so I used a 47mf.. ditto for C59A. Check the jumpers on the plug in the back to be

Re: [AMRadio] Ranger Audio... the numbers

2006-11-17 Thread Rick Brashear
Jack, The adjustable resistor (R35) has a direct affect on the screen of the 6146, so that is normal if the clamper (V6) is performing correctly. I'm sorry, I have lost track of what you have checked/replaced, but I would substitute a known good 6AQ5 if you haven't. You may have to adjust R3

RE: [AMRadio] Ranger Audio... the numbers

2006-11-17 Thread Gary Schafer
It's beginning to sound like a partially shorted mod transformer. With 20 volts signal on the grids of the mod tubes I would think that you should see at least 200 volts on the plates?? Could be bad 6L6's. The reason that you see a slightly distorted audio pattern on the audio amplifiers when in

Re: [AMRadio] Ranger Audio... the numbers

2006-11-17 Thread Jack Schmidling
Rick Brashear wrote: Jack, The adjustable resistor (R35) has a direct affect on the screen of the 6146, so that is normal if the clamper (V6) is performing correctly. Then why is is called the "modulator screen voltage adjustment" on the schematic and used to adjust the mod current? > You m

Re: [AMRadio] Ranger Audio... the numbers

2006-11-17 Thread Larry Taft
Gary has, I think, hit the tube on the plate cap. I went looking for a set of curves for the 6L6 in my pile of old books and data but no find yet. Just from "rule of thumb" for audio tube amps you should get a couple hundred volts audio swing (not related to BIRD WATTS) at each plate to gro

Re: [AMRadio] Ranger Audio... the numbers

2006-11-17 Thread Jack Schmidling
Gary Schafer wrote: It's beginning to sound like a partially shorted mod transformer. I checked the resistances of the transformer earlier in the game and they are nominal. >With 20 volts signal on the grids of the mod tubes I would think that >you should see at least 200 volts on the plat

Re: [AMRadio] Ranger Audio... the numbers

2006-11-17 Thread Rick Brashear
Switch SW4b connects the resistor to the screens of the modulator tubes when in the "Phone" mode, so it is the "modulator Screen" adjustment. It also plays a role in the screen voltage of the 6146 final. Ideally, if the modulator idling current is correct the screen voltage on the final will

Re: [AMRadio] Ranger Audio... the numbers

2006-11-17 Thread Larry Taft
Jack Schmidling wrote: Gary Schafer wrote: It's beginning to sound like a partially shorted mod transformer. I checked the resistances of the transformer earlier in the game and they are nominal. >With 20 volts signal on the grids of the mod tubes I would think that >you should see at lea

Re: [AMRadio] Ranger Audio... the numbers

2006-11-17 Thread Larry Taft
Try again, only this time wait to push "send". Unfortunately an ohmmeter test on the leads of a xfmr will not show a turn to turn short in the same winding. The real way to test is send AC, ie audio, into the iron at a modest power level and look at the waveform coming out. Distorted wavefor

RE: [AMRadio] Ranger Audio XFMRs

2006-11-17 Thread John E. Coleman (ARS WA5BXO)
I thought I read where Jack said the scope pattern at the grids of the modulator tubes looked altogether different than the pattern at the plate of the driver tube. If this is true then the driver XFMR might be shorted. I am not real familiar with the driver XFMR on the ranger but if it is one of

RE: [AMRadio] Ranger Audio XFMRs and/or other trouble

2006-11-17 Thread John E. Coleman (ARS WA5BXO)
I will be gone this weekend and will not be able to check email till Monday. Can't wait to see who done it. John Coleman, WA5BXO __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://

Re: [AMRadio] Ranger Audio XFMRs and/or other trouble

2006-11-17 Thread Rick Brashear
Have safe and fun trip, John. Rick/K5IZ John E. Coleman (ARS WA5BXO) wrote: I will be gone this weekend and will not be able to check email till Monday. Can't wait to see who done it. John Coleman, WA5BXO __ AMRadio mailing list Li

[AMRadio] for sale dx 100 and Apache or trade

2006-11-17 Thread Anthony W. DePrato
A ham in Tenn asked me to list these for him. He would like to sell them or find someone who can restore the dx 100 for him. the Apache is very nice looks like an 8.5 with a copy of the book. The DX 100 is missing some knobs and needs reworked someone made a lot of mods to it and he wants it b

Re: [AMRadio] for sale dx 100 and Apache or trade

2006-11-17 Thread Bill Marx
Great Weather we are having... Want an ST-8000A? - Original Message - From: "Anthony W. DePrato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 5:47 PM Subject: [AMRadio] for sale dx 100 and Apache or trade A ham in Tenn a

Re: [AMRadio] for sale dx 100 and Apache or trade

2006-11-17 Thread Bill Marx
Another example of a reply to list reflector... Sorry for bandwidth... - Original Message - From: "Bill Marx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] for sale dx 100 and Apache or trade

Re: [AMRadio] for sale dx 100 and Apache or trade

2006-11-17 Thread Anthony W. DePrato
At 05:36 PM 11/17/2006 -0500, you wrote: Great Weather we are having... Want an ST-8000A? Bill you know better then to ask an old rtty man that question i would have to sell the cat to get it. hi hi.. thinning out up here just too much stuff and not where to keep it. can not get to the glo

Re: [AMRadio] Ranger Audio... the numbers

2006-11-17 Thread Jack Schmidling
Larry Taft wrote: Just from "rule of thumb" for audio tube amps you should get a couple hundred volts audio swing (not related to BIRD WATTS) at each plate to ground. 50 v is only a couple of watts audio. Could you explain the math on that? How do you arrive at watts knowing only volts?

Re: [AMRadio] Ranger Audio... the numbers

2006-11-17 Thread crawfish
Impedance at the plates is more than 50 ohms. Joe W4AAB - Original Message - From: "Jack Schmidling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio

RE: [AMRadio] Ranger Audio... the numbers

2006-11-17 Thread Gary Schafer
Plate to plate impedance on the 6L6's is going to be in the neighborhood of 5000 to 6000 ohms. 400 volts plate to plate voltage swing would be around 26 watts of audio. Plate voltage swing to ground would be 1/2 the above or around 200 volts to ground for 1 tube. Since there is about 26 volts of

Re: [AMRadio] Ranger Audio... the numbers

2006-11-17 Thread Mike Dorworth, K4XM
- Original Message - From: "crawfish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Ranger Audio... the numbers > Impedance at the plates is more than 50 ohms. Some measurements: Ranger modulat

[AMRadio] Air Check of W4DBG, K0EFJ and W5AMI

2006-11-17 Thread A.R.S. - W5AMI
Here is an MP3 made by KA5MIR on his Flex Radio of W4BDG/George, K0EFJ/Brian in Ft. Scott, KS, and yours truly/W5AMI 30 mi. north of Little Rock. George was running an Icom 706, Brian/EFJ was on his Johnson 500, and I am on the "1937 Bartlesville KW" currently using a single 450TL modulated by Am

Re: [AMRadio] Air Check of W4DBG, K0EFJ and W5AMI

2006-11-17 Thread Rick Brashear
Man! What a signal. Everyone sounded good, but AMI was broadcast quality, Southern drawl and all. That '37 Bartlesville KW was kicking it out! If I ever get the privilege of chatting with your Brian you'll here my unmistakable Texas drawl. Great file.. great audio! Rick/K5IZ A.R.S. - W5AM