An absurd proposition that must not be accepted
John K5MO
At 10:04 AM 10/24/2007, Glen Zook wrote:
5 KHz for CW by everyone but Amateur Extra Class
operators!
Glen, K9STH
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A few interesting notes on the new IARU HF bandplan
for 40 meters :
7070 kHz is
It says CW ANYWHERE:
http://www.iaru-regionii.org/Region_2_HF_Band_Plan.html
Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa,
Real Radios Glow in the Dark
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It says CW ANYWHERE:
http://www.iaru-regionii.org/Region_2_HF_Band_Plan.html
Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa,
Real Radios Glow in the Dark
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From: Glen Zook [EMAIL PROTECTED
I screwed that up! That was the current bandplan!
Tis is the new bandplan:
http://www.iaru-r2.org/wp-content/uploads/region-2-mf-hf-bandplan-e.pdf
When do the 40M SW stations vacate the 7100-7200 segment?
Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa,
Real Radios Glow in the Dark
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: GB Re: IARU bandplan
I screwed that up! That was the current bandplan!
Tis is the new bandplan:
http://www.iaru-r2.org/wp-content/uploads/region-2-mf-hf-bandplan-e.pdf
When do the 40M SW stations vacate the 7100-7200 segment?
Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa,
Real Radios Glow in the Dark
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Subject: [AMRadio] Re: GB Re: IARU bandplan
I screwed that up! That was the current bandplan!
Tis is the new bandplan:
http://www.iaru-r2.org/wp-content/uploads/region-2-mf-hf-bandplan-e.pdf
When do the 40M SW stations vacate the 7100-7200 segment?
Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa,
Real Radios Glow
Bob Macklin wrote:
I screwed that up! That was the current bandplan!
Tis is the new bandplan:
http://www.iaru-r2.org/wp-content/uploads/region-2-mf-hf-bandplan-e.pdf
When do the 40M SW stations vacate the 7100-7200 segment?
They are in the process of evacuating now. That's how some of us
Bob Peters wrote:
Okk Guess I have been missing something...No AM Fqs on 160 and 75
Bob W1PE
I don't know about you, but All Modes to me, includes AM, as AM is a
'mode' (isn't it?)
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Driving your AM Rig without a scope,
is like driving your car at night, without headlights.
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Seattle, Wa,
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Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: GB Re: IARU bandplan
Bob Macklin wrote
it still says all modes on 40...
Brett
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Bob Macklin wrote:
They are not evacuating the 7200-7300 segment. just the 7100-7200 segment.
You are probably operating late night on ground wave on 7290. The PNW AM
group seems to ignore 40M.
Since there is nothing else happening I might just as well put the reciever
on 7290 in the evening
, October 24, 2007 11:51 AM
To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'
Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Re: GB Re: IARU bandplan
Okk Guess I have been missing something...No AM Fqs on 160 and 75
Bob W1PE
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Bob wrote:
It says CW ANYWHERE:
http://www.iaru-regionii.org/Region_2_HF_Band_Plan.html
That's the currently-in-effect bandplan from 1988. To see what I'm talking
about you need to visit
http://www.iaru-regionii.org/Region_2_MF__HF_Bandplan_Annex__1_2008.pdf
Steve WD8DAS
GO TO THE BOTTOM OF THE CHART. CW allowed anywhere from 7000 to 7300 KHz.
And you should be using the October 16, 2007 chart that's here:
http://www.iaru-r2.org/wp-content/uploads/region-2-mf-hf-bandplan-e.pdf
pete, wa2cwa
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:58:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bob wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know about you, but All Modes to me,
includes AM, as AM is a 'mode' (isn't it?)
Aw fer cryin' out loud, the issue is the *bandwidth*. Can you run a decent AM
signal in 2700 bandwidth?
Don/K4KYV runs a -great- signal at 3.1kc, when he's in the 'narrow'
Geoff wrote:
Don/K4KYV runs a -great- signal at 3.1kc, when he's in the 'narrow'
mode
with active and passive band-pass and band-width filters (homebrewed,
of
course)
I'm sure Don sounds great but isn't it the modulating audio that is
being limited to 3.1 kHz? That means the total
SSB with carrier (Vestigial Sideband) is only about 3KC wide. It works just
fine.
Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa,
Real Radios Glow in the Dark
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Larry Will wrote:
Steve is correct.
I'm clear now, Larry. Thanks!
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Driving your AM Rig without a scope,
is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV)
73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR
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At 10:46 AM 10/14/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IMHO, that change took place about 27 years ago.
What happened was that a new Administration made good on their campaign
promises to get the government off your back
It's almost like a vast, right wing conspiracy!
John K5MO
N2EY writes:
Most countries outside the USA do not have subbands-by-mode at all. Their
regs simply tell their hams what bands and modes are allowed, and leave it to
the hams to sort out where to use various modes.
The alternative is chaos.
I 'm confused - I don't think there is chaos in
That's right -- Yea Steve
Ya see, I want to experiment with ultra wide band stuff and then
channelize the sub space synchronic continuum. It will be great.
A little humor, but really I like experimentation and totally agree that a
little regulation is all that is necessary and the less
On this whole digital stuff... I guess I'm confused as to how much
spectrum we're talking about.
I know that TV stations have to go from Analog to digital by 2009.
There is going to be -megacycles- of space/spectrum available up from
60MHz thru nearly 1GHz.
The spectral footprint of the
There has been a number of experiments on the HF bands over the last
several years using digital formats on phone using 3 KHz or less. AOR has
had their ARD9800 and ARD9000 boxes out in the ham marketplace for
several years. They digitize the signal and divide it into 36 PSK type
signals and sends
N2EY writes:
Looking at the rules changes since I became a ham 40 years ago, it seems
FCC has consistently allowed US hams to use more modes with less regulation.
True, and this trend is a good one, but the pressure I describe is from other
sources, such as my beloved ARRL, who seem want to
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The spectral footprint of the analog station is going to be reduced from
6MHz down to around 200kc... and there are already some stations in San
Antonio that are broadcasting in Digital, with channels like (channel 4
being the 'main') 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, etc...
I
A friend of mine, WB8UTW, made a good point in an email to me:
I wonder how many SSB rigs will be non-compliant with the new bandplan's 2.7
kHz bandwidth limit? I doubt any of my phasing SSB rigs will be compliant and
I thought filters on many older filtered rigs were 3 kc or more in
Steve is correct.
The modulation is linear with 8 level vestigial sideband transmission
(the carrier( at -11 dB from peak sideband power) is only .3 Mhz from
the lower edge of the channel) and uses a 3-2 data rate allowing a
19.39 megabit data stream to be sent in a 6 mcs bandwidth
channel.
This time with the link.
Larry
Steve is correct.
The modulation is linear with 8 level vestigial sideband transmission
(the carrier( at -11 dB from peak sideband power) is only .3 Mhz from
the lower edge of the channel) and uses a 3-2 data rate allowing a
19.39 megabit data stream to be
The entire thing is, from a practical standpoint completely unenforceable,
even if adopted.
My CE20 will soldier on.
John K5MO
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I have heard that none of these digital voice schemes works well
for amateur HF still, unless the and conditions are near perfect.
Long live AM !!
There has been a number of experiments on the HF bands over the last
several years using digital formats on phone using 3 KHz or less. AOR
has
It just kmeans more and more unenforceable rules, unfortunately.
Most hams don't do a lot of the things we are technically supposed
to do to eccheck our signals now.
Just as they are technically dumbing down hamdom, we have
all these rules about spectral purity etc. requiring
absurdly
Yeah, but as great as digital TV may sound we had ALL KINDS of
trouble with it over a 12 month trial period here from our cable
provider and finally we gave up.
It was constantly going bad, de-synchronising the audio and
video or stuttering or stopping completely. Also, it took
several seconds
I just follow the current rules and regulations on the books set forth by
our FCC. If and when a proposal for changing the rules is submitted to
the FCC, and if they assign an RM number to it, we then we have a process
in place within the FCC to make all our issues and concerns known to them
in a
We want a recognized AM window on every band.
Er, no - I think what we want is the right we have NOW - which
is to operate AM ANYWHERE that phone is allowed, not in
some AM ghetto!
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