Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback

2009-05-30 Thread Jim Candela
Here is part of a good thread on the rec.audio.tubes list: Andre Jute wrote: > > On May 28, 4:20 am, Jon Yaeger wrote: > > My recent post about the phasing of OPTs came up because I'm configuring > > a > > tube amp based around the iron from a Sansui 1000A, -- the OPTs are > > reputedly made by

Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback

2009-05-27 Thread John Coleman
: Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback >Have you tried swapping the transformers to make sure it isn't something else? 73, Darrell, WA5VGO __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Se

Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback

2009-05-27 Thread Dennis Gilliam
Hi John, Just in case you are interested, I have a pair of original Altec PP outputs and matching power trans from the 1569A amp. Ran PPP EL-34'S for 100w into 4-8-16-70V. I'd like to sell all 4 pieces as a set, $300 plus shipping. 73 Dennis W7TFO -- 2nd Parentheses 2:13 "And the slow of

Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback

2009-05-22 Thread John Coleman
...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Coleman Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:18 AM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback Jim: Open Loop: A square wave input at about 1000 HZ results in a square wave at the grids of the

Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback

2009-05-21 Thread John Coleman
Jim: Open Loop: A square wave input at about 1000 HZ results in a square wave at the grids of the KT88s. Both channels appear equal in amplitude at the grids of the KT88s. But the output of the 8 ohms tap to the speakers is not a square wave but is sort of a pointed sine wave.

Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback

2009-05-20 Thread Jim Candela
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:16:10 -0400 From: John Coleman Subject: Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Jim I had a chance to add the 3300 ohm resistor and the .001uf capacitor to the circuit at the grid of

Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback

2009-05-18 Thread Jim Candela
> > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 10:42:01 -0400 > From: John Coleman > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback > > > Thanks Jim >I'll give that a try before switching the XFMRs out. I guess what > your saying is that

Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback

2009-05-18 Thread John Coleman
nd 16 ohm secondary -- rating 40 watts John Coleman, WA5BXO -Original Message- From: amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Candela Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 11:06 PM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFM

Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback

2009-05-18 Thread John Coleman
Thanks Jim I'll give that a try before switching the XFMRs out. I guess what your saying is that the slight tolerance differences of components and layouts me be enough to cause this and that the XFMR wires are color coded different doesn't mean they or all wrong. In his schematic the

Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback

2009-05-15 Thread Jim Candela
John, I had similar issues with a stereo 6L6 amp I built many years ago. The oscillation would come and go, and it eventually killed the tweeters on my old Utah 12" 3 ways. The following article describes the problem well in a similar amplifier: http://www.pmillett.com/file_downloads/chic

Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback

2009-05-15 Thread John Coleman
No Darrell, I haven't swapped the XFMRs yet. That is part of the testing that will take place but it is all on hold for a few days because of Boy Scout events this week end. I'll keep you guys informed as to what is found. Come see us sometime Darrell. Bret, Yep I'm sure it is a phase problem a

Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback

2009-05-14 Thread Brett Gazdzinski
2009 6:21 PM Subject: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback > > This is maybe a little off subject here but I ran across an interesting > thing. It may be of interest for someone building higher quality speech > amplifiers of modulators for AM. > > While constructing

Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback

2009-05-14 Thread WA5VGO
>Have you tried swapping the transformers to make sure it isn't something else? 73, Darrell, WA5VGO ___ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.6.4 http://www.iolo.com _

Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback

2009-05-14 Thread John Coleman
pull output XFMRs and neg feedback It sounds like you may have a shorted turn in one of them, NOS notwithstanding. It has happened to me, and it forms a tuned circuit resulting in a phase shift as it is an LC network now. 73 de W7TFO

Re: [AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback

2009-05-14 Thread Dennis Gilliam
It sounds like you may have a shorted turn in one of them, NOS notwithstanding. It has happened to me, and it forms a tuned circuit resulting in a phase shift as it is an LC network now. 73 de W7TFO On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:21 PM, John Coleman wrote: > > This is maybe a little off subject here

[AMRadio] push pull output XFMRs and neg feedback

2009-05-14 Thread John Coleman
This is maybe a little off subject here but I ran across an interesting thing. It may be of interest for someone building higher quality speech amplifiers of modulators for AM. While constructing two identical amplifier circuits with inverse feed back for a stereo operation, I discovered that