[amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the satellites.

2011-06-09 Thread aa2tx
Hi Doug, Here is the best article on the subject with an explanation of why and what to do: http://www.amsat.org/amsat/features/one_true_rule.html Welcome to satellites! 73, Tony AA2TX AMSAT, VP Engineering --- - Original Message - From: Douglas Phelps

[amsat-bb] SSB Operation on the Satellites

2011-06-09 Thread John Heath
Hi Satelliters,   Might cause some flames with this  but here goes:   With a good few years of operating on the SSB sats, AO's-10,13,40, RS10, FO-20,FO-29 and 98 countries confirmed I can agree totally with the one true rule in theory. When stations at each end of the QSO use the method it works

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51

2011-06-09 Thread Mark L. Hammond
Hi Ted, Here is one to bookmark: http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/CTNews.php When we're able to turn it on, you can work it using: 145.880 FM up, no tone 435.150 FM down 73, Mark N8MH At 05:01 PM 6/8/2011 -0700, Ted wrote: I may have missed the latest memo as I did not hear the last

[amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites

2011-06-09 Thread Tom Schaefer, NY4I
A rookie observation…. That article was written in 1994—well prior to the state of the art in full doppler correction. I use MacDoppler for adjusting the VFOs and it happily adjusts both of them. The ONLY time I run into a problem where the received station is moving is when it is clear

[amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites

2011-06-09 Thread Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
It's certainly the case that many people operate out in the field and do not have a computer available. My radios are not computer controlled, even in the shack. On 09-Jun-11 11:08, Tom Schaefer, NY4I wrote: Is the state of the art still such that we are all using radios that do not support

[amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites

2011-06-09 Thread n0jy
Certainly desirable Tom, but I've been in Amsat and on the birds since the '70s and it wasn't until the last couple of years that I got my PC hooked to my FT-736R! And then just this year to get it hooked to my FT-817 (IF) radio. I will say that there's nothing better than PC doppler and rotator

[amsat-bb] HudsonvalleySatcomGroupNetTonightJune9@8PMEDTOnN2EYH-L node 429079

2011-06-09 Thread Cotejaune2
Hello all it is time again for the HVSCG Net tonight June 09 @ 8 PM edt.on Echolink N2EYH-L node 429079. Hope you will join us for the net and share your satellite knowledge. Hope to hear you there. 73 Gary wa2aqh ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org.

[amsat-bb] FW: NASA Ames Phonesat Balloon Launch

2011-06-09 Thread Bob Bruninga
APRS Balloon launch today from California Bay area! On Thursday 9 June we will be doing a high-altitude balloon launch of our prototype Phonesat spacecraft It will have a separate APRS VHF beacon, but what we're really interested is collecting the data from the satellite's UHF beacon.

[amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites

2011-06-09 Thread Joe
I always varied the transmit. This way the person I'm talking to as well as any other listeners are all on the same freq listening. Growing up on the birds when you had to twist the BIG knob to keep everyone on freq is not not a big deal. And to this day i still don't know why it seems to be

[amsat-bb] Report on UK ISS College contact and Dayton Video

2011-06-09 Thread Trevor .
Video of Astronaut Doug Wheelock KF5BOC at Dayton http://www.southgatearc.org/news/june2011/kf5boc_video.htm A report on Tuesdays ISS contact with students in Enniskillen can be seen at http://www.southgatearc.org/news/june2011/college_congratulated.htm It is understood there may be a BBC TV

[amsat-bb] Re: FW: NASA Ames Phonesat Balloon Launch

2011-06-09 Thread Joe
I thought per FCC rulings that cell phone use in these balloon flights is not legal? Joe WB9SBD The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 6/9/2011 8:27 AM, Bob Bruninga wrote: APRS Balloon launch today from California Bay area! On Thursday 9 June we

[amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites

2011-06-09 Thread n0jy
OK my brain may be playing tricks, but if you vary only your transmit frequency such that you always hear yourself on the same downlink frequency, isn't it true that the other station may not necessarily be hearing you on the same downlink frequency and is chasing you anyway? Your doppler is

[amsat-bb] Re: FW: NASA Ames Phonesat Balloon Launch

2011-06-09 Thread Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
Where does it say there's a cellphone? On 09-Jun-11 14:24, Joe wrote: I thought per FCC rulings that cell phone use in these balloon flights is not legal? Joe WB9SBD The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 6/9/2011 8:27 AM, Bob Bruninga

[amsat-bb] Re: FW: NASA Ames Phonesat Balloon Launch

2011-06-09 Thread Joe
Ok, Smartphone, Me Bad, I thought this was just another group using a cellphone on a balloon flight. Upon further reading I see they did take the data out of the Phone and downlink it via Ham Radio Who's call I wonder? But i guess i jumped the Gun Sorry, Joe WB9SBD The Original Rolling

[amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites

2011-06-09 Thread Joe
doppler effects both paths, up and down. so at least if everyone is listening to a 100Hz freq tone at 100 Hz, we are all on the same freq. Joe WB9SBD The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 6/9/2011 9:35 AM, n...@lavabit.com wrote: OK my brain may

[amsat-bb] Re: FW: NASA Ames Phonesat Balloon Launch

2011-06-09 Thread Dave Webb KB1PVH
Maybe this? Also, here is an article on their previous flight: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/02/11/cell-phones-space-smartphone-nasa/ 73, Dave - KB1PVH Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID X On Jun 9, 2011 10:59 AM, Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF ni...@ngunn.net wrote: Where does it say there's a

[amsat-bb] Re: FW: NASA Ames Phonesat Balloon Launch

2011-06-09 Thread Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
The smartphone was just the computer and sensors. The communication was by UHF radio. On 09-Jun-11 15:09, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: Maybe this? Also, here is an article on their previous flight: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/02/11/ cell-phones-space-smartphone-nasa/ 73,

[amsat-bb] VO52 and verticals

2011-06-09 Thread John Geiger
Has anyone had success getting into VO52 using a vertical, omnidirectional antenna on the uplink. I have a nice M2 2M9SSB for 2m but only have a dualband J pole to cover UHF with and wonder if I could get into VO52 with it for my uplink antenna. 73s John AA5JG

[amsat-bb] Re: FW: NASA Ames Phonesat Balloon Launch

2011-06-09 Thread Trevor .
The 4kg nanosatellite STRaND-1 developed in the UK by University of Surrey and Surrey Satellite Technology Limited (SSTL) will be flying a Smartphone, see http://www.southgatearc.org/news/january2011/mobile_phone_in_orbit.htm I recall they were hoping to launch by the end of the year. The

[amsat-bb] Sat Teaser - Bob Heil's Ham Nation

2011-06-09 Thread Clint Bradford
At about the 17.5 minute portion of the current Ham Nation podcast (episode THREE already!), Bob Heil teases the audience about our upcoming show dedicated to working the amateur satellites! We're shooting for a Tuesday in July date - stay tuned! http://twit.tv/hn Clint Bradford, K6LCS

[amsat-bb] Re: VO52 and verticals

2011-06-09 Thread w4upd
I have had some success with vertical monobanders on all of the birds including VO-52 and A0-7. I use a Ringo Ranger II on two meters and a 1/4 wave homebrew two meter groundplane for 70cm, which makes it 3 waves long for 70cm. The main disadvantage I run into is that two different antennas

[amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites

2011-06-09 Thread David Palmer KB5WIA
Jerry's correct. If you only adjust your transmit frequency, such that your receive frequency appears to stay the same -- then you're automatically correcting for your own downlink doppler, but not for anyone elses. Other hams in the footprint will still have to chase you. The only way to stick

[amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites

2011-06-09 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi! That being said, adjusting the higher (UHF) transmit frequency on VO-52 and AO-07 only (ie. manual control) will get you pretty close, and you won't drift a whole lot.  I hear plenty of hams doing this, as long as there are just one or a two QSO's going on, they don't drift into each

[amsat-bb] Re: VO52 and verticals

2011-06-09 Thread George Henry
As I currently live in an antenna-restricted subdivision, I have been experimenting with low-profile antennas for a couple of years now. My experience has been that verticals are iffy for a couple of reasons: not enough gain at low elevations when the path is longest, a deep null above 40

[amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites

2011-06-09 Thread Tom Schaefer, NY4I
This is a great thread. Well, I am going to continue with full doppler and just resolve myself to tuning in some people that are not quite there yet. As a lot, I would think adding computer control to handle full doppler would not be that big a deal nowadays as most of the programs support it.

[amsat-bb] Re: [aprssig] FW: NASA Ames Phonesat Balloon Launch

2011-06-09 Thread Bob Bruninga
Balloon is up! http://aprs.fi/KF7ODR-1 But their main interest is their UHF packet downlink on 437.092 -Original Message- From: aprssig-boun...@tapr.org [mailto:aprssig-boun...@tapr.org] On Behalf Of Bob Bruninga Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:28 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Cc: 'TAPR APRS

[amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites

2011-06-09 Thread John Becker
At 01:01 PM 6/9/2011, you wrote: Actually, if stations would spread out a bit more on the transponders, this would be even less of an issue. There is so much space that goes to waste on these transponders, when everyone seems to never go more than a few kHz up or down from the center. True.

[amsat-bb] CO6CBF-EL92 ready in LotW

2011-06-09 Thread hmartinez
Hello Guys Now, I am able to confirm the contacts using LotW also. Today, I uploaded my last Sat log. Thanks very much Hector, CO6CBF EL92SD *** Genius is one per cent inspiration, and ninety-nine per cent perspiration.

[amsat-bb] Re: VO52 and verticals

2011-06-09 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:35 AM 6/10/2011, John Geiger wrote: Has anyone had success getting into VO52 using a vertical, omnidirectional antenna on the uplink. I have a nice M2 2M9SSB for 2m but only have a dualband J pole to cover UHF with and wonder if I could get into VO52 with it for my uplink antenna. I have

[amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites

2011-06-09 Thread Tony Langdon
At 04:06 AM 6/10/2011, Tom Schaefer, NY4I wrote: This is a great thread. Well, I am going to continue with full doppler and just resolve myself to tuning in some people that are not quite there yet. As a lot, I would think adding computer control to handle full doppler would not be that big a

[amsat-bb] AO-51 L/U

2011-06-09 Thread Louis House, KD5GM
In the scheme of things, will AO-51 be in L/U voice mode anytime soon? If so has those UP and Down link frequencies changed? Thanks, LOUIS, KD5GM in EL29kq CW, The original digital mode AMSAT #37061: FIST #3606 ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org.

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 L/U

2011-06-09 Thread Andrew Glasbrenner
With the battery problems we can't use the L receiver. I don't expect to be able to run L/U for a long time, if ever again. 73, Drew KO4MA Sent from my iPhone On Jun 9, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Louis House, KD5GM kd...@sbcglobal.net wrote: In the scheme of things, will AO-51 be in L/U voice mode

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 L/U

2011-06-09 Thread Bob- W7LRD
That was the only place we could play with our L S stuff since AO-40 (sobsob). 73 Bob W7LRD - Original Message - From: Andrew Glasbrenner glasbren...@mindspring.com To: Louis House, KD5GM kd...@sbcglobal.net Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2011

[amsat-bb] Re: [aprssig] FW: NASA Ames Phonesat Balloon Launch

2011-06-09 Thread Jordan Hayes KG6UAE
Balloon is up! http://aprs.fi/KF7ODR-1 But their main interest is their UHF packet downlink on 437.092 My TM-D700 in Berkeley doesn't seem to go to lower step size than 5khz, but I can sorta hear some squawking on 437.090 ... at least it's better than 437.09375 ... But, alas, my radio

[amsat-bb] Re: [aprssig] FW: NASA Ames Phonesat Balloon Launch

2011-06-09 Thread j...@dellabarba.com
  Last path:KF7ODR-13W5VYP via WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,KI6JJW-1 [http://aprs.fi/info/KI6JJW-1] (seriously-bad) [http://d1dhsh1i77j8ju.cloudfront.net/img/path-seriously-bad.png] This station appears to be flying at high altitude and using digipeaters, which causes serious congestion in the APRS

[amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites

2011-06-09 Thread Joe Krepps
So for the operator with a single FT-817ND - understanding there will be a learning curve in regards to doppler, doing the Arrow wave entertaining and/or frightening the neighbors, is AO-7 do-able or just not a really good idea? Won't be ticked off if the answer is probably best not to try.

[amsat-bb] Balloon

2011-06-09 Thread Kevin Deane
You know here are some people trying to do an experiment of whatever kind, probably spent alot of time and money on the project and I think that is great. I was tracking it and was waiting for it to get above the Sierra's and try to get the downlink. Would have been neat. BUT here we have

[amsat-bb] Balloon

2011-06-09 Thread Kevin Deane
You know here are some people trying to do an experiment of whatever kind, probably spent alot of time and money on the project and I think that is great. I was tracking it and was waiting for it to get above the Sierra's and try to get the downlink. Would have been neat. BUT here we have

[amsat-bb] Re: Balloon

2011-06-09 Thread Jeff Moore
I think the complaint you're referring to is an artifact of the APRS.FI website not a particular person complaining. Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY CN94 - Original Message - From: Kevin Deane summit...@live.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 6:53 PM Subject: [amsat-bb]

[amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites

2011-06-09 Thread B J
snip So for the operator with a single FT-817ND - understanding there will be a learning curve in regards to doppler, doing the Arrow wave entertaining and/or frightening the neighbors, is AO-7 do-able or just not a really good idea? Won't be ticked off if the answer is probably