[amsat-bb] Inclusion

2014-07-22 Thread Kevin M
Good day all, Let me attempt to add a few cogent thoughts to the ongoing 'future of AMSAT' discussion... I don't know if I am the typical ham or not, but I've been licensed for 35+ years... started in my teens. Have built some of my own gear, joined clubs, worked HF, chased DX, dabbled in lots

Re: [amsat-bb] Inclusion

2014-07-22 Thread Gus
On 07/22/2014 11:54 AM, Kevin M wrote: I've heard comments that basically imply anyone who wants to go outside with an HT and wave a yagi around is stupid. I will respond to this because of comments I've made in the past, which may have been misunderstood. Standing outside with a yagi in ha

Re: [amsat-bb] Inclusion

2014-07-22 Thread R.T.Liddy
you'll do a better job finding some. 73,     Bob K8BL (AMSAT Member since 1979) From: Gus To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Inclusion On 07/22/2014 11:54 AM, Kevin M wrote: > I've heard comments tha

Re: [amsat-bb] Inclusion

2014-07-22 Thread Gus
On 07/22/2014 06:25 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote: You may think it's stupid... Oh, for heavens sake. I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS STUPID!!! I said: > To imply to the uneducated observer and potential future satellite operator, that > standing in the rain is the pinnacle of hamsat ground station technology i

Re: [amsat-bb] Inclusion (satcoms?)

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Bruninga
But if the goal of satellite operation is from the shack-potato position, why not just use the internet and not bother. Don't forget the TOTAL FAILURE of the original SAT-PHONE industry when they ignored cellphones and fiber. No one would bother with a sat-phone when their $9/mo cell phone could

Re: [amsat-bb] Inclusion (satcoms?)

2014-07-26 Thread Phil Karn
On 07/22/2014 11:05 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > The value of ham radio is providing communications where other systems > cannot. And of course, playing with toys just for fun. I'd flip that around. With the Internet, mobile phones and other ubiquitous communications, about the sole reason left

Re: [amsat-bb] Inclusion (satcoms?)

2014-07-27 Thread Diane Bruce
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:31:51PM -0700, Phil Karn wrote: > On 07/22/2014 11:05 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > > > The value of ham radio is providing communications where other systems > > cannot. And of course, playing with toys just for fun. > > I'd flip that around. With the Internet, mobile