On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Aaron Halfaker
wrote:
> For example, not collecting usage data about certain sections of our
> population (e.g. IE10 users where DNT is set by default) means that we
> don't know if our software works for them.
>
Note that IE 10 does inform you about the option
Cf.
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https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Privacy_policy/Archives/2013#Do_Not_Track
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https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Privacy_policy/Archives/2014#Changing_Do_Not_Track_section_to_clarify_language.2C_reflect_fact_that_specification_is_not_yet_done
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https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Re
Agreed! There's no philosophical blocker. In a universe in which DNT
was uniformly treated, and uniformly opt-in, without substantial
variations in status between demographies, I would have absolutely no
problem with equating the two. As a user, I until very recently
assumed DNT == DNC.
Unfortunat
>it'squite clear from both the public and private discussions around DNT
>that there is a big detachment between user expectations of DNT and
>what the protocol actually does, and so we should probably avoid
>treating that protocol as a flag.
On a less technical amore philosophical note I think th
>And, IE11?
>From what I see it is not subjected to the same restrictions that 10, note
that issues with older browsers fade away for browsers with auto-update.
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Oliver Keyes wrote:
> And, IE11? 12? My point is that yes, we can go about writing a lot of
> excepti
And, IE11? 12? My point is that yes, we can go about writing a lot of
exceptions for specific use cases, and coming up with solutions for
each browser's DNT idiosyncracies, but the costs of that trade-off
increase the more we have to support.
I'd much rather we built a uniform system that asked us
>For example, not collecting usage data about certain sections of our
population (e.g. IE10 users where DNT is set by default) >means that we
don't know if our software works for them. This isn't free, and in the
long-term, it can have substantial negative >effects. If DNT was always
disabled by
Ori, I don't think you addressed the point I made about that study. They
didn't ask users what they thought *their* browser setting meant and what
they expected. They asked what they thought a big red button with "DO NOT
TRACK" on it meant -- and the most common answer had to do with their local
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Ori Livneh wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Dan Andreescu
> wrote:
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>> Sorry if this has already been answered, but do we know how many people
>> have DNT set?
>
>
> No, and there is a logistical problem that stands in the way of finding
> that out.. :)
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Dan Andreescu
wrote:
> Sorry if this has already been answered, but do we know how many people
> have DNT set?
No, and there is a logistical problem that stands in the way of finding
that out.. :)
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On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Aaron Halfaker
wrote:
> They're really only asking what people think of when they read the words
> "Do Not Track". I'd be more interested in knowing what people expect when
> then look at their particular browser setting and what it is they actually
> hope it wil
Sorry if this has already been answered, but do we know how many people
have DNT set?
On Tuesday, January 13, 2015, Nuria Ruiz wrote:
> >However, I also see a clear use-case for when I would like to not be
> tracked at all
> > I'd advocate for a "Do Not Log Anything At All" header that would all
>However, I also see a clear use-case for when I would like to not be
tracked at all
> I'd advocate for a "Do Not Log Anything At All" header that would allow
us to respect such a preference.
I much agree with Christian's that using "do not track" for total-opt-out
is a good usage of the header, im
I think that the conclusion that you draw from that study is sketchy.
They're really only asking what people think of when they read the words
"Do Not Track". I'd be more interested in knowing what people expect when
then look at their particular browser setting and what it is they actually
hope i
Hi,
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 02:24:02PM -0600, Aaron Halfaker wrote:
> > Do Not Track is a technology and policy proposal that enables users to opt
> > out of *tracking by websites they do not visit*, [...]
>
>
> Do not track is explicitly for third party tracking. We are merely
> proposing to c
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