Re: [Analytics] Wikimedia Research showcase – October 15 2014, 11.30 PT

Hey Nemo, That's cool that you had that discussion. I didn't know about it. As you can imagine, I've talked a lot of people about the work myself. I'm stoked that we're having another discussion right now. :) I'm going to go into scientist-defending-the-value-of-my-work mode for a couple of pa

Re: [Analytics] Wikimedia Research showcase – October 15 2014, 11.30 PT

Aaron Halfaker, 16/10/2014 19:40: I'd argue that the continued persistence of the problems surrounding the impersonal & negative reception of newcomers is the result of a lack of adaptability. Policy calcification (if that's an appropriate term for the observed trends) is one bit of evidence of

Re: [Analytics] Wikimedia Research showcase – October 15 2014, 11.30 PT

Agreed. Improved engagement models are essential to taking advantage of academic work. See all the edits I've done on Meta for efforts in this direction. :) Personal: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/EpochFail Staff: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Half

Re: [Analytics] Wikimedia Research showcase – October 15 2014, 11.30 PT

That does answer the question, but the difficulty is that I see few editors looking to research for guidance about how to improve Wikipedia. The prevailing approach, in my observation, is wikilawyering, and most editors seem more interested in changing content or discussing policy than in looking a

Re: [Analytics] Wikimedia Research showcase – October 15 2014, 11.30 PT

I think that's dependent on the research project. In the Human-Computer Interaction research community, we tend to highlight "Implications for Design" in the conclusion of a study(see page 9 of [1] for an example from my work). In the case of democratized research resources, I would like editors

Re: [Analytics] Wikimedia Research showcase – October 15 2014, 11.30 PT

I'm curious, what is the plan for transforming research outcomes into actionable proposals for on-wiki change? Pine On Oct 16, 2014 10:54 AM, "Dan Andreescu" wrote: > If I'm right, then it is important that we experiment with strategies for >> reinforcing/jump-starting Wikipedia's adaptive syste

Re: [Analytics] Wikimedia Research showcase – October 15 2014, 11.30 PT

> > If I'm right, then it is important that we experiment with strategies for > reinforcing/jump-starting Wikipedia's adaptive systems. One way to do that > is to make it easier for editors to reflect on current trends. I'd like to > think that integrating research practice into wiki culture (wha

Re: [Analytics] Wikimedia Research showcase – October 15 2014, 11.30 PT

Indeed. We actually concluded this in the Rise and Decline study -- the same study that is often cited for blaming counter-vandalism tools & policy. From http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~halfak/publications/The_Rise_and_Decline/halfaker13rise-preprint.pdf *with emphasis* > First, the calcification

Re: [Analytics] Wikimedia Research showcase – October 15 2014, 11.30 PT

Agree completely! On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Jane Darnell wrote: > I watched it too and I like your theory about the editor decline being > caused by a lack of innovation after 2007 rather than the usual excuses of > policy and anti-vandal tool creation > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM,

Re: [Analytics] Wikimedia Research showcase – October 15 2014, 11.30 PT

I watched it too and I like your theory about the editor decline being caused by a lack of innovation after 2007 rather than the usual excuses of policy and anti-vandal tool creation On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Aaron Halfaker wrote: > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Paramecium.art

Re: [Analytics] Wikimedia Research showcase – October 15 2014, 11.30 PT

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Paramecium.artistic_color_vector.svg On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Aaron Halfaker wrote: > :) > > /me goes to upload his wik-amecium to commons > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Dan Andreescu > wrote: > >> me too - watched it >> >> Aaron - I look fo

Re: [Analytics] Wikimedia Research showcase – October 15 2014, 11.30 PT

:) /me goes to upload his wik-amecium to commons On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Dan Andreescu wrote: > me too - watched it > > Aaron - I look forward to more discoveries about our weird paramecium > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Aaron Halfaker > wrote: > >> Works for me. >> >> On Wed, O

Re: [Analytics] Wikimedia Research showcase – October 15 2014, 11.30 PT

me too - watched it Aaron - I look forward to more discoveries about our weird paramecium On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Aaron Halfaker wrote: > Works for me. > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Asaf Bartov > wrote: > >> Could it be the youtube link doesn't lead to the recorded version? >>

Re: [Analytics] Wikimedia Research showcase – October 15 2014, 11.30 PT

Works for me. On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Asaf Bartov wrote: > Could it be the youtube link doesn't lead to the recorded version? > >A. > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Dario Taraborelli < > dtarabore...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> After a break in September, we’re resuming our mont

Re: [Analytics] Wikimedia Research showcase – October 15 2014, 11.30 PT

Could it be the youtube link doesn't lead to the recorded version? A. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Dario Taraborelli < dtarabore...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > After a break in September, we’re resuming our monthly Research and Data > showcase >

Re: [Analytics] Wikimedia Research showcase – October 15 2014, 11.30 PT

This is the streaming link you can join to watch the showcase: http://youtu.be/-We4GZbH3Iw On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Dario Taraborelli < dtarabore...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > After a break in September, we’re resuming our monthly Research and Data > showcase >

[Analytics] Wikimedia Research showcase – October 15 2014, 11.30 PT

After a break in September, we’re resuming our monthly Research and Data showcase. The next showcase will be live-streamed tomorrow Wednesday October 15 at 11.30 PT. As usual you can join the conversation via IRC on freenode.net by joining the #wikimedia-research channel. We look forward to see