[Analytics] response to Magnus' post about page views

2014-02-19 Thread Toby Negrin
Hi Everyone, Many of you have read Magnus' post on his blog. I've commented on his blog and I wanted to repost here and address Magnus' concerns directly. First of all, I'm sorry that we let Magnus and other folks down on the page view APIs -- we made some

Re: [Analytics] response to Magnus' post about page views

2014-02-19 Thread Luis Villa
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Toby Negrin wrote: > I also want to call out that the Analytics team has been supporting a wide > range of users and stakeholders during the year. We've developed > WikiMetrics, a tool for measuring editor productivity that is used by WMF > program evaluation and

Re: [Analytics] response to Magnus' post about page views

2014-02-20 Thread Steven Walling
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Toby Negrin wrote: > Many of you have read Magnus' post on his > blog. > I've commented on his blog and I wanted to repost here and address Magnus' > concerns directly. > > First of all, I'm sorry that we let Magnus and ot

Re: [Analytics] response to Magnus' post about page views

2014-02-20 Thread Magnus Manske
Hi Toby, Everyone, thanks for this update. I think the approach you describe, boosting stats.grok.se with hardware support while developing the "official", scalable WMF solution, is quite sensible in this situation. I do understand having just too many things on your plate to deal with, and I als

Re: [Analytics] response to Magnus' post about page views

2014-02-20 Thread Thomas Steiner
Your mileage may vary, but my good friend Hannes Mühleisen over at CWI Amsterdam maintains this tool: http://wikistats.ins.cwi.nl/. You can script it like so: http://wikistats.ins.cwi.nl/export.php?page=Lady_Gaga%7CBritney_Spears&callback=myCallback. I let Hannes have the final word, but it seems i

Re: [Analytics] response to Magnus' post about page views

2014-02-20 Thread Magnus Manske
Looks nice, but: "831.106 pages" Considering there are ~4.5 million pages in the English article namespace alone, it won't do for GLAM purposes. May well be suitable for others, though. Cheers, Magnus On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Thomas Steiner wrote: > Your mileage may vary, but my goo

Re: [Analytics] response to Magnus' post about page views

2014-02-20 Thread Hannes Mühleisen
Hello Magnus and List, On 02/20/2014 12:55 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: "831.106 pages" Yes, these are the pages that collect a significant number (> 1000/week) of hits. Since the process involves a large amount of data, it is not fully automated yet, but it hopefully will be soon. Considering

Re: [Analytics] response to Magnus' post about page views

2014-02-20 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Thanks for the update Toby! As far as prioritization of a Pageview API, this would be a hugely useful tool for the mobile team. Literally just yesterday I had to tell one of the designers that we couldn't implement the feature they wanted because we didn't have a Pageview API. Such an API would ope

Re: [Analytics] response to Magnus' post about page views

2014-02-20 Thread Toby Negrin
Hi Magnus -- These are totally reasonable expectations and thanks for the understanding our situation. You can look for more detailed communications from us starting tomorrow. Thanks, -Toby On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:51 AM, Magnus Manske wrote: > Hi Toby, Everyone, > > thanks for this update. I

Re: [Analytics] response to Magnus' post about page views

2014-02-20 Thread Toby Negrin
Hi Ryan, Totally! There are lots of really cool applications we can do with the API. A couple of comments -- first, we need to establish what constitutes a page view. We've done some work on this that we shared at FOSDEM and the next step is to start discussions with the community. I do need to s