On Dec 31, 6:08 am, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote:
I don't really agree with this.
You know what, just have a go at anything else in a 2011 worthy of
developer suitable IDE out there, I have been using eclipse for 5
years now. I have used it for more than just Java, and I am a huge fan
of
Just to clarify -- I'm NOT saying the current state doesn't have huge
usability problems! (And so did the previous state).
I'm only disagreeing with the sentiment that real programmers only
want to use the XML, and ignore the GUI. Even now, when it works
right (and I can figure out how to use
I've used the NetBeans and MyEclipse GUI editors extensively. They are very
nice.
The Android thing in Eclipse is pretty much a waste of time. Bizarre things
happen when you try to drag controls or layouts in. Items end up in totally
unexpected places, with attributes that you can't seem to
Actually, I find the huge properties menu to be an improvement over
the old properties view (which is still available, BTW).
The Attributes you can't seem to control thing is definitely a
problem.
For example, with a relative layout, depositing an item to be below
another, you can't just get
I think the adt is going backwards, the GUI designer is a waste of time,
drag and drop just does not work properly, we just need the up and down
arrows back!
2010/12/31 Bob Kerns r...@acm.org
Actually, I find the huge properties menu to be an improvement over
the old properties view (which is
Then check out the ADT 9.0 Preview 2, which has improvements to drag
and drop, and up and down arrows:
http://tools.android.com/recent
On Dec 31, 1:29 pm, Julian cacif...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the adt is going backwards, the GUI designer is a waste of time,
drag and drop just does not work
I was under the assumption that developers were expected to use pure
XML to design layouts, and then use the GUI to test and see how it
looks (though honestly it still doesn't match what actually happens on
the screen). Try using a different GUI editor (droiddraw I believe is
one) or just using
Totally agree. If you use XML, you will actually understand what's
going on instead of relying on a GUI editor to do the work for you.
Personally, in over a year and a half of using Eclipse, I've yet to
drag and drop a single control with the editor.
On Dec 31, 8:50 am, John Oliver
I don't really agree with this.
I find that, especially for RelativeLayout, it's really a lot quicker
to drag and drop than to edit the XML. It's also, in theory, a lot
easier to see how things are related -- but this needs to be improved.
On the other hand, any time savings was more than eaten
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