Re: [Anima] Is this how BRSKI/IPIP works?

2017-07-05 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 06/07/2017 15:37, Toerless Eckert wrote: > On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 02:19:23PM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> Hi BRSKI authors, > > Can i still answer ? > > Inline. I only have an ACP author, WG chair and general bloviator hat > though... > >> Is the following correct? >> >> Topology (ASC

Re: [Anima] Is this how BRSKI/IPIP works?

2017-07-05 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 02:19:23PM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Hi BRSKI authors, Can i still answer ? Inline. I only have an ACP author, WG chair and general bloviator hat though... > Is the following correct? > > Topology (ASCII art): >___ >

[Anima] Is this how BRSKI/IPIP works?

2017-07-05 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Hi BRSKI authors, Is the following correct? Topology (ASCII art): ___ | REGISTRAR | |___| |Ar | ... (ACP) (

Re: [Anima] IPIP in draft-ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra-07

2017-07-05 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 06/07/2017 11:05, Toerless Eckert wrote: > Brian, > > 1. I think the conclusions about IP-in-IP where that it should be in an > appendix >because it would not be MTI (Mandatory to implement). That makes sense. But the text is still a bit confusing because it doesn't make that clear in t

Re: [Anima] Review of draft-ietf-anima-stable-connectivity-02

2017-07-05 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 06/07/2017 11:13, Toerless Eckert wrote: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 12:23:13PM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> Toerless, >> >>> I actually expanded on the text to represent the whole M_FLOOD message >>> format >>> because i always found it highly irritating having to switch between the >>> ta

Re: [Anima] Object store and PubSub model

2017-07-05 Thread Alexander Clemm
I can think of several use cases where such a capability would be useful. One such use case is documented in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-nmrg-autonomic-sla-violation-detection-10. This concerns a use case to coordinate service level measurements among nodes in a network. To come

Re: [Anima] Object store and PubSub model

2017-07-05 Thread Toerless Eckert
Artur: pubsub and object store seem to be (to me) two hot buzzwords, but i am not aware (ENOCYCLES) what the IETF is currently doing about those. It would certainly be interesting for the ANIMA-WG to see proposals of work in the area with good motivation why this work would be particularily be su

Re: [Anima] Review of draft-ietf-anima-stable-connectivity-02

2017-07-05 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 12:23:13PM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Toerless, > > > I actually expanded on the text to represent the whole M_FLOOD message > > format > > because i always found it highly irritating having to switch between the > > taget draft (ACP etc.) and the GRASP draft to rea

Re: [Anima] IPIP in draft-ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra-07

2017-07-05 Thread Toerless Eckert
Brian, 1. I think the conclusions about IP-in-IP where that it should be in an appendix because it would not be MTI (Mandatory to implement). 2./3. This was addressed in my shepherd review BRSKI where i folded in the information from your ani-objectives draft. See my other mail about the st

[Anima] draft-ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra shepherd review

2017-07-05 Thread Toerless Eckert
Just FYI: I started with the authors a shepherd review for subject draft, shortly before -06 was finished. Alas, we've not been able to merge all the work of reviewing that back into the latest pusblished version -07 primarily because that one primarily focussed on getting inline with the voucher

Re: [Anima] IPIP in draft-ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra-07

2017-07-05 Thread Max Pritikin (pritikin)
Brian, I’m out for a couple of weeks but wanted to thank you for this note. Michael Richardson will likely have good comments but for now I’ve set a calendar event to catch up when I return and also have created a github issue to track this. https://github.com/anima-wg/anima-bootstrap/