RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-24 Thread Dominique Devienne
t support (at a price) - Original Message - From: "Dominique Devienne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Ant Users List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:49 PM Subject: RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price) >

Re: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-24 Thread Steve Loughran
- Original Message - From: "Dominique Devienne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Ant Users List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:49 PM Subject: RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price) > Well no, but feel

RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-23 Thread Dominique Devienne
ual Studio ;-) Even I don't do that very often any more. Cheers, --DD -Original Message- From: Steve Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 2:39 PM To: Ant Users List Subject: Re: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price) looks ok to me. You goi

Re: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-23 Thread Steve Loughran
looks ok to me. You going to submit it to go into ant1.6? - Original Message - From: "Dominique Devienne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Ant Users List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:03 PM Subject: RE: Borland Jbuilder fin

RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-23 Thread Dominique Devienne
riginal Message- From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:04 PM To: Ant Users List Subject: Re: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price) The -emacs output was not what Visual Studio liked? - Original Message - From: "Dominique

Re: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-23 Thread Scott Ellsworth
On Thursday, May 23, 2002, at 02:06 AM, GOMEZ Henri wrote: >>> Just use Eclipse IDE (www.eclipse.org), ant support >>> is awesome ;) >> >> I await a MacOS X version in the release tree. They gave a very >> impressive demo at WWDC two weeks ago, so there is hope. > > I still didn't see MacOS X

Re: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-23 Thread Erik Hatcher
The -emacs output was not what Visual Studio liked? - Original Message - From: "Dominique Devienne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Ant Users List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:11 PM Subject: RE: Borland Jbuilder finally

RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-23 Thread Dominique Devienne
configured with an error format like any good editor). --DD -Original Message- From: max [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 11:03 AM To: Ant Users List Subject: Re: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price) You say awesome, and I ask you the following

RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-23 Thread John Niven
> -Original Message- > From: max [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 22 May 2002 17:03 > To: Ant Users List > Subject: Re: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price) > > > You say awesome, and I ask you the following: > > How do you come from

RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-23 Thread GOMEZ Henri
>> Just use Eclipse IDE (www.eclipse.org), ant support >> is awesome ;) > >I await a MacOS X version in the release tree. They gave a very >impressive demo at WWDC two weeks ago, so there is hope. I still didn't see MacOS X in there download pages. Did the WWDC demo was on running on MacOS X ?

Re: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-22 Thread max
t Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price) Just use Eclipse IDE (www.eclipse.org), ant support is awesome ;) - Henri Gomez ___[_] EMAIL : [EMAIL PROTECTED](.

Re: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-22 Thread Scott Ellsworth
On Wednesday, May 22, 2002, at 03:02 AM, GOMEZ Henri wrote: > Just use Eclipse IDE (www.eclipse.org), ant support > is awesome ;) I await a MacOS X version in the release tree. They gave a very impressive demo at WWDC two weeks ago, so there is hope. Scott -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-22 Thread GOMEZ Henri
age- >From: Steve Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:22 AM >To: ant-user >Subject: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price) > > >From the feature set of JBuilder 7, I see that they have finally added >native ant support >h

Re: OFFTOPIC! RE: IDEs vs. text editors, was RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-21 Thread kenyee
On 05/21/2002 12:15:59 PM, David Jencks wrote: > You mean like the jde speedbar class browser?? I'm not sure what > twisties are or why triangles help you browse classes;-) Tree views > sure are handy though. They usually in a smaller font to let you see more and you can represent more using

Re: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-21 Thread Erik Hatcher
hod is used is very important to me also. Erik - Original Message - From: "Joe Celentano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ant Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 11:26 AM Subject: RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (

Re: OFFTOPIC! RE: IDEs vs. text editors, was RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-21 Thread kenyee
On 05/21/2002 01:18:32 AM, "Molitor, Stephen" wrote: > Just wanted to point out that Emacs has more capabilities than many > people realize. Emacs, JDEE and Xrefactory is all I use to develop. Thanks, Steve. I was wondering about Emacs supermacros when I wrote what I wrote :-) I used it wayyy

RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-21 Thread Joe Celentano
> From: Paul Cody > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 8:53 PM > > Not trying to start a flamewar, but I cannot imagine _why_ people > decide to > buy that [junk]. If I were to ever become the manager type, > everyone in my > shop learns emacs or they hit the highway (or vi, provided they can keep > up).

RE: [OT] IDEs (was RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price))

2002-05-21 Thread Dennis Doubleday
nt: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 10:13 AM > To: Ant Users List > Subject: [OT] IDEs (was RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant > support (at a price)) > > > Paul Cody writes: > > Not trying to start a flamewar, but I cannot imagine _why_ > people decide to > buy that [jun

[OT] IDEs (was RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price))

2002-05-21 Thread Drew Sudell
Paul Cody writes: > Not trying to start a flamewar, but I cannot imagine _why_ people decide to > buy that [junk]. If I were to ever become the manager type, everyone in my > shop learns emacs or they hit the highway (or vi, provided they can keep > up). The month or so of lost productivity

Re: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-21 Thread Mark Fortner
Steve, What people often forget is that there are OpenTool alternatives to the features that Borland sells for a premium. For example, I use Ant Builder to execute Ant tasks from the free version of JBuilder. There are OpenTools that will automatically generate Strut's code, support templating

Re: IDEs vs. text editors, was RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-21 Thread Brian Agnew
I'd immediately be wary of anyone producing code using Notepad. So many language-agnostic editors (eg. vim/emacs) provide _so_ much more. At least the notepad users are limited by the 64k file size limit though :-) Brian --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On 05/20/2002 08:53:21 PM, Paul Cody

OFFTOPIC! RE: IDEs vs. text editors, was RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-20 Thread Molitor, Stephen
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:20 AM To: Ant Users List Subject: IDEs vs. text editors, was RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price) On 05/20/2002 08:53:21 PM, Paul Cody wrote: > shop learns emacs or they hit the highway (or vi, provided they can I

Re: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-20 Thread Steve Loughran
- Original Message - From: "Scott Ellsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ant Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 6:33 PM Subject: Re: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price) > > On-topic part - I do so wish Bo

Re: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-20 Thread Scott Ellsworth
On-topic part - I do so wish Borland would drop the JBuilder price to something closer to what the product is worth - it would make budget time a lot less painful for our IDE using crowd. On Monday, May 20, 2002, at 05:53 PM, Paul Cody wrote: > Not trying to start a flamewar, but I cannot im

RE: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-20 Thread Paul Cody
over, and woororold would live in peace. Imagine no IDE's, I wonder if you can, Paul > -Original Message- > From: Steve Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:22 PM > To: ant-user > Subject: Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a

Borland Jbuilder finally adds ant support (at a price)

2002-05-20 Thread Steve Loughran
>From the feature set of JBuilder 7, I see that they have finally added native ant support http://www.borland.com/jbuilder/pdf/jb7_feamatrix.pdf but only on the enterprise edition. Like, they had to pay so much for ant.jar that they had to put them in the prestige premium tool that costs the same