Re: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Steve Loughran
- Original Message - From: "Dominique Devienne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Ant Users List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy > Sadly, I'd have to concur

RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Scott Francis
of double checking can prevent these problems...do us a favor and scratch our back and do it...I will be more than happy to give ya a scratch back in the future. Scott -Original Message- From: Dominique Devienne [mailto:DDevienne@;lgc.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:30 PM To: &#x

RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Dominique Devienne
This gets my vote for the best post of the month if not year on that list. Thanks Scott! ;-) --DD -Original Message- From: Scott Francis [mailto:scott.francis@;newisys.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 1:51 PM To: Ant Users List Subject: RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy Ok

RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Chappell, Simon P
>-Original Message- >From: Scott Francis [mailto:scott.francis@;newisys.com] >Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 1:51 PM >To: Ant Users List >Subject: RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy > > >Ok, there have been a lot of decent comments coming from the >mailing

Re: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Steve Loughran
- Original Message - From: "Malik, Yousuff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Ant Users List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 11:18 AM Subject: RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy > Here are some of the best practices that I h

RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Unchis, Debra
'Ant Users List' Subject: RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy Here are some of the best practices that I have found works 1)Nightly development and integration builds 2)You need to have different dev, int and QA branches. Clearcase is highy recommended. 3)Schedule the nightly builds on a

Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Unchis, Debra
Here's a change of pace question for the group... I am the Build Manager for my group. By "Build Manager" I mean I wrote the build.xml for our code, I don't have a full fledged background in what I'm calling "build philosophy". So I'm no expert here, I'm just trying to get an idea on how other o

RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Bwana McCall
A great thread indeed! I too have been challenged with the CM role at our company and am looking for ideas on improving our existing philosophy. Much of what was said is what we strive to do including: * Nightly Builds (with automated tests + junit/winrunner reports) "Who broke the build??" Us

RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Scott Francis
YMalik@;erac.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 1:28 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Looking for a Build Philosophy Here are some of the best practices that I have found works 1)Nightly development and integration builds 2)You need to have different dev, int and QA branches.

RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Malik, Yousuff
ds Yousuff -Original Message- From: David McTavish [mailto:dmctavish@;SANDVINE.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 1:05 PM To: 'Ant Users List' Subject: RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy What I'd like to know is how often does your organization build? - nightly What even

RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Mohamed, Haneef
leno, Ed French] -Original Message- From: Malik, Yousuff To: 'Ant Users List' Sent: 10/17/02 2:18 PM Subject: RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy Here are some of the best practices that I have found works 1)Nightly development and integration builds 2)You need to have

RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Chappell, Simon P
Message- >From: Unchis, Debra [mailto:DUnchis@;coral-energy.com] >Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 12:55 PM >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' >Subject: Looking for a Build Philosophy > > >Here's a change of pace question for the group... > >I am the Build Manager for my

Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Malik, Yousuff
ds Yousuff -Original Message- From: David McTavish [mailto:dmctavish@;SANDVINE.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 1:05 PM To: 'Ant Users List' Subject: RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy What I'd like to know is how often does your organization build? - nightly What even

Re: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Robert r. Sanders
Check out "Java Tools for Extreme Programming" by Richard Hightower and Nicholas Lesiecki. I scanned my way through the examples and managed to pick up lots of very helpful advice that can can be applied to pretty much any Java development. There are some (pricy) tools that are more sofistica

RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Unchis, Debra
> > I mean I'm sure this can be simplified to build when it's necessary or when > changes are made, but I find on my project that we are building every night > and I'm finding that I spend half of my day tracking down errors and > rebuilding. I kind of think that's a waste, but I don't have any

RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Rosendahl Sten - stro
L PROTECTED]' Subject: Looking for a Build Philosophy Here's a change of pace question for the group... I am the Build Manager for my group. By "Build Manager" I mean I wrote the build.xml for our code, I don't have a full fledged background in what I'm calling &q

Re: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Steve Loughran
- Original Message - From: "Unchis, Debra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 10:55 AM Subject: Looking for a Build Philosophy > > I mean I'm sure this can be simplified to build when it's necessary or

RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Vishal_Santoshi
: Dominique Devienne [mailto:DDevienne@;lgc.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:09 PM To: 'Ant Users List' Subject: RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy This gets my vote for the best post of the month if not year on that list. Thanks Scott! ;-) --DD -Original Message- From: Sco

RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Shackelford, John-Mason
You might consider using Cruise Control to automate builds. You can set Cruise Control to build after any check-in occurs and a specified idle time on the source control has elapsed. It automatically sends emails to the build manager and offending developer whenever the build is broken. A servlet a

RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Chaganthi, Madhusudan R.
Though slightly OT, Using jikes compiler instead of javac for Weblogic's ejbc will speed up the process. -Original Message- From: Unchis, Debra [mailto:DUnchis@;coral-energy.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:35 PM To: 'Ant Users List' Subject: RE: Looking for a B

RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Scott Francis
:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy well we have a different approach we have an integration between checkins to cvs and ant a checkin into a tagged module results in a build being launched (of course the developer who does the check in is listed

RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread David McTavish
o: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Looking for a Build Philosophy Here's a change of pace question for the group... I am the Build Manager for my group. By "Build Manager" I mean I wrote the build.xml for our code, I don't have a full fledged background in what I'm calli

RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy

2002-10-18 Thread Dominique Devienne
ailto:Simon.Chappell@;landsend.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:09 PM To: Ant Users List Subject: RE: Looking for a Build Philosophy >developers who are used to doing things a certain way (being >however they feel like doing it that day), you are going to be >very hard pressed