Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2017-02 New Policy Proposal (Regular abuse-c Validation)

2017-09-14 Thread Brian Nisbet
Suresh, This information will be part of the NCC's Impact Assessment, which is supplied at the end of the initial discussion phase. The first phase is around the proposal itself and whether the community feels it has merit in and of itself. All of the pieces are required for the whole that is the

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2017-02 New Policy Proposal (Regular abuse-c Validation)

2017-09-14 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Sorry – two sets of impacts 1. Impact on NCC staff’s time – ok, impact assessment 2. How many ASNs are we talking about here and can they be aggregated under some specific upstream providers? I am sure an impact assessment would work – my point was that a lot of the criticism so far has been ju

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2017-02 New Policy Proposal (Regular abuse-c Validation)

2017-09-14 Thread Brian Nisbet
Suresh, Indeed, and it's a point that I should have reiterated earlier in regards to when in the process the NCC will provide their impact assessment. Thanks, Brian Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock,

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2017-02 New Policy Proposal (Regular abuse-c Validation)

2017-09-14 Thread Nick Hilliard
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > I am sure an impact assessment would work – my point was that a lot > of the criticism so far has been jumping to conclusions over the > impact. That's not an unreasonable comment, but the flip side is also true: the policy makes an a-priori assumption that this is

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2017-02 New Policy Proposal (Regular abuse-c Validation)

2017-09-14 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
In either case the numbers will speak for themselves and any comments without seeing them are going to be premature. Never mind the RIPE NCC staff effort costing – does someone have numbers on the # of ASNs with invalid abuse-c information, and whether there are significant clusters of such ASN

[anti-abuse-wg] Fwd: [ripe-list] Network security and Brussels

2017-09-14 Thread Brian Nisbet
As I know not everyone is on or reads the ripe-list, I felt it useful to forward this to the WG. Thanks, Brian Forwarded Message Subject:[ripe-list] Network security and Brussels Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 11:19:53 +0200 From: Gordon Lennox To: ripe-l...@ripe.net

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Fwd: [ripe-list] Network security and Brussels

2017-09-14 Thread Amelia Andersdotter
Dear all, I do not wish to add stress or burden on anyone but here are three additional staff working documents from the Commission, which may cast light on some of the proposals they're putting forward (or at least why): http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/AUTO/?uri=SWD:2017:500:FIN http://eu