On Fri, 19 Apr 2019, Gert Doering wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 02:18:25PM +, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
It would be an interesting sight to see the chairman and exec board of ripe
summoned before a parliament or court to explain the situation.
You love to summon up dire
On Fri, 19 Apr 2019, Nick Hilliard wrote:
Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg wrote on 19/04/2019 15:03:
Would you find reasonable to have the rule/policy in place say for 2 or 3
years, and then evaluate its impact/efectiveness...?
No. In principle, the proposal is completely broken,
Joke of the Day.
I wonder if the pink box on this page has anything to do with my
recent mention of this company here:
https://bgp.he.net/AS205869#_asinfo
It would appear that perhaps these folks:
https://bgp.he.net/AS205869#_peers
may have finally concluded that being the one and
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 02:52:48PM +, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> They had a fiduciary duty not to hand out whole /14s of v4 space to snowshoe
> spammers set up as eastern european LIRs not too long back
As long as spamming is a perfectly legal business in the appropriate
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 02:18:25PM +, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> It would be an interesting sight to see the chairman and exec board of ripe
> summoned before a parliament or court to explain the situation.
You love to summon up dire legal consequences for the RIPE NCC if this
> They had a fiduciary duty not to hand out whole /14s of v4 space to
> snowshoe spammers set up as eastern european LIRs not too long back
as i intended by my reference to martin niemöller, i suspect that's who
the net police/vigilantes will come for next. and then ... and then
... it is
They had a fiduciary duty not to hand out whole /14s of v4 space to snowshoe
spammers set up as eastern european LIRs not too long back
They would now as well if such duty wasn't abdicated each time
The duty doesn't magically go away of course even if it is abdicated and denied
--srs
Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg wrote on 19/04/2019 15:03:
Would you find reasonable to have the rule/policy in place say for 2 or
3 years, and then evaluate its impact/efectiveness...?
No. In principle, the proposal is completely broken, antithetical to
the RIPE NCC's obligations of being
For those saying "Dutch court" etc please do be careful what you're asking for.
Experience in two decades of anti abuse work says that if a particular form of
abuse is allowed and even waved away so there's an enforcement gap, and that
form of abuse is used to successfully attack something
Hi,
On Fri, 19 Apr 2019, ac wrote:
(...)
But anyway: the point that Randy is making that this policy is neither
common sense, nor effective in reducing abuse. So it's not the way
to go.
so you are taking it upon yourself to attach your own opinion by
commenting on how you interpret the
On Fri, 19 Apr 2019, Gert Doering wrote:
Hi,
(...)
But anyway: the point that Randy is making that this policy is neither
common sense, nor effective in reducing abuse. So it's not the way to go.
Hi,
72 countries/economies in the service region (and in reality, the world),
so i
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019, Fi Shing wrote:
What absolute crap. Why is that every time something resembling common sense
enters this group, there are these people who insist on using slippery slop
fallacy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
It wouldn't half surprise me if people like
very well said Randy, +1
On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 11:33, Randy Bush wrote:
> > so you are taking it upon yourself to attach your own opinion by
> > commenting on how you interpret the point(s) Randy is making?
> >
> > how rude and presumptuous of yourself.
>
> QED? i wish folk would not resort
> so you are taking it upon yourself to attach your own opinion by
> commenting on how you interpret the point(s) Randy is making?
>
> how rude and presumptuous of yourself.
QED? i wish folk would not resort to ad homina
> it seems many people (including myself) are rude, obnoxious, not
>
On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 09:51:56 +0200
Gert Doering wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 07:33:19PM -0700, Fi Shing wrote:
> > What absolute crap.
> > Why is that every time something resembling common sense enters
> > this group, there are these people who insist on using slippery
> > slop fallacy? >
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 07:33:19PM -0700, Fi Shing wrote:
> What absolute crap. Why is that
> every time something resembling common sense enters this group, there are
> these people who insist on using slippery slop fallacy? style=""> style=""> style="">
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